When are taxes high enough???

[ConzHateUSA]

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I'm beginning to wonder if Conz is a hardcore conservative, just trying to make liberalism look absolutely as bad as possible.

This is a caricature. I'm getting suspicious.

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stop whining, you lost the argument, again, dont whine about it

What argument?

What the hell?

Now I'm MORE suspicious.

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The tea party not only doesnt know how to help an economy, they dont understand economics period

Debt ceiling is one example

Look, dont argue with the adults, you will lose every time

 

[Mac1958]

stop whining, you lost the argument, again, dont whine about it

What argument?

What the hell?

Now I'm MORE suspicious.

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The tea party not only doesnt know how to help an economy, they dont understand economics period

Debt ceiling is one example

Look, dont argue with the adults, you will lose every time

Well, I dunno, I guess we'll find out when I bump into an adult.

Come on, tell me, are you a plant for the GOP, trying to make Democrats look as angry and hateful as possible? All you do is spit out anger and insults, you don't come up for freakin' air. Who hired you, was it Rove? The Romney campaign?

I won't tell anyone, I promise.

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[Immanuel]

"If you as the perspective (sic) employee are not willing to take what the employer is offering, you have a very clear choice. Refuse the job and keep looking or accept the job and do the best you can until you can find a better position."

Good to see that God is among us.

Existential choice may be clear. 'Real life' choices often are not. A soldier given an unconstitutional order has the obligation to refuse. He has a choice, but the context rather limits exercise.
A W. Va. resident may feel mine work is not for him or that the pay is not correct, but his options are extremely limited and perhaps non-existent in any meaningful, compassionate way.

It isn't easy being human.

Grr, thanks for the catch on perspective/prospective.

For the record, I'm not God and don't claim to be. I am just announcing that he is with us.

That West Virginia resident has a choice, work in or for the mines or leave West Virginia. Steelplate basically said that if the West Virginia resident doesn't like that wages offered that it is the mine owner's fault and the mine owner should simply increase the wages paid. I'm sorry, but that is not how things work. The two parties negotiate the wages and benefits. Maybe the resident isn't willing to work for the wages offered. That is not the fault of the owner.

I realize that at the moment it seems like employers hold all the cards and really they do because if you are not willing to take the job, there is someone in the waiting room who will. Is that really the employer's fault?

Immie

Yes, thanks, I know the sense of announcement in the name you use. Is it some kind of irony?
The one spoken of in the announcement knew how humans were, knew what existential choice was, made a very hard one himself, and died as a result of intolerance and lack of understanding (I say that in spite of not calling myself a Christian). Above all, he had compassion, and realized that is what trumps all other ideas, ideologies and prejudices.
You might try reading about him.

Finally, is it the worker's fault where he was born, in what epoch and what the financial manipulators did to his country with no one's permission?

Most likely you simply have no understanding of what exactly Christ died for?

As for the employer/employee relationship it is also quite evident that you have no idea what a give and take relationship is. You seem to be a proponent of the take part and probably refuse to give. Seems to me like you are of the give me, give me, give me mentality.

Of course, it is not the fault of the worker where he/she was born... but why do you blame the employer? Oh yeah, you were raised that way. Everyone owes you, right?

As for compassion, the word has nothing to do with giving because you are forced to do so. It is giving from the heart and soul. It is not compassionate to "give" because something is taken from you by force, which is exactly where you have gotten lost.

By the way, why is it the employer's fault where the worker was born and under what condition the worker lives? How much responsibility does the employer bear in this? Obviously, you seem to place a hell of a lot of blame on the employer.

Immie

 

[ConzHateUSA]

did i just read a post where a bagger preaches about Christ true meaning while simultaneously saying poor employer, greedy employee?

tell me you guys are kidding

 

[Immanuel]

did i just read a post where a bagger preaches about Christ true meaning while simultaneously saying poor employer, greedy employee?

tell me you guys are kidding

Actually, no, first I am not a member of the tea party. Second, I only said the other idiot was greedy (not the idiot I am addressing now, but the other one) and had absolutely no understanding of the give and take relationship.

Fools like you two, blame the employer for everything, when if we did not have employers, we'd all be up shit creek without a paddle. You idiots just can't figure that part out. There are greedy employers, yet not all employers are greedy. There are greedy employees yet not all are greedy. Then there are people like you who whine like babies and blame everyone else for your lack of intelligence and everything else under the sun and expect everyone to feed you with silver spoons.

Sorry, but I don't have compassion for people like you who won't get off their asses and earn a decent day's wages.

Immie

 

[ConzHateUSA]

dear god, I cant take the stupid anymore

baggers pretending to be business owners, sheesh

and the usual crap about how liberals are all lazy and on welfare...man, get a new script

having been an employer for many years, i find your dribble boring

 

[Immanuel]

dear god, I cant take the stupid anymore

baggers pretending to be business owners, sheesh

and the usual crap about how liberals are all lazy and on welfare...man, get a new script

having been an employer for many years, i find your dribble boring

So you are an idiot and a liar?

Good for you, live with your bullshit.

I never said I was an employer. Which is the first lie you stated. The second is most likely the one where you claim to have been. The third lie is that I said all liberals are lazy and on welfare. Didn't say that either, retard.

I joyfully work for an employer who treats me very well and have worked for other employers who have done so as well, unlike the lazy asshole that I am addressing and the other one earlier, I don't expect my employer to pay me more than we agreed to when they hired me.

Obviously, you are both an idiot and a liar.

Immie

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

I would guess that taxes equate to political power over others so the link below seems to be spot on.

Addiction Taxes « The Liberty Bullhorn

Class envy leads to class warfare... you decide!

"Class envy" is just another way of saying "the wealthy should be able to externalize as much cost as possible onto the backs of the working class so they can get richer at your expense"

 

[blackhawk]

I would guess that taxes equate to political power over others so the link below seems to be spot on.

Addiction Taxes « The Liberty Bullhorn

Class envy leads to class warfare... you decide!

Just my opinion but to some taxes will be high enough when the rich are broke the government can no longer afford all it's social programs everything collapse's and were all up shit creek but at least we won't be a nation of have's and have not's anymore we will all be equally screwed.

 

[LilOlLady]

I worked for 50 years and never knew how much taxes I paid. Most people don't have a clue and don't care. All I know was that what ever was asked of me I paid. That is what Jesus said for me to do. Taxes are lower under Obama than they ever were under these circumstance they should be at least back to the Clinton era. I was just glad to get a job, and the hell with what ever was taken out. I realize where my taxes go and some I don't like but what the hell.
I never heard taxes even mentions politically until Obama took office

 

[Amazed]

dear god, I cant take the stupid anymore

baggers pretending to be business owners, sheesh

and the usual crap about how liberals are all lazy and on welfare...man, get a new script

having been an employer for many years, i find your dribble boring

...and of course as a good little socialist you take your monthy "profit" and divide it equally between all of your "employees", dumbshit hypocrite.

 

[Amazed]

I worked for 50 years and never knew how much taxes I paid. Most people don't have a clue and don't care. All I know was that what ever was asked of me I paid. That is what Jesus said for me to do. Taxes are lower under Obama than they ever were under these circumstance they should be at least back to the Clinton era. I was just glad to get a job, and the hell with what ever was taken out. I realize where my taxes go and some I don't like but what the hell.
I never heard taxes even mentions politically until Obama took office

Did jesus tell you to a hate filled assbite?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I would guess that taxes equate to political power over others so the link below seems to be spot on.

Addiction Taxes « The Liberty Bullhorn

Class envy leads to class warfare... you decide!

"Class envy" is just another way of saying "the wealthy should be able to externalize as much cost as possible onto the backs of the working class so they can get richer at your expense"

In a free country if you don't want Bill Gates to get rich you are free to not buy his products!!

The idea of buying his products and then stealing the money back through liberal government is Nazi-like.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

I would guess that taxes equate to political power over others so the link below seems to be spot on.

Addiction Taxes « The Liberty Bullhorn

Class envy leads to class warfare... you decide!

Considering they are the lowest in decades, its a better question to ask "when are taxes low enough?"

The class warfare that exists was started by the wealthy so called "job creators" who refuse to provide decent compensation to the hard working Americans that have made this country great.

 

[Moonglow]

I would guess that taxes equate to political power over others so the link below seems to be spot on.

Addiction Taxes « The Liberty Bullhorn

Class envy leads to class warfare... you decide!

Funny thing is, my taxes have gone down on Fed taxes(Dems), and stayed the same with state taxes(Dems), but the repubs who are in control of my property taxes has increased them, along with a special sales tax

 

[Moonglow]

I would guess that taxes equate to political power over others so the link below seems to be spot on.

Addiction Taxes « The Liberty Bullhorn

Class envy leads to class warfare... you decide!

Considering they are the lowest in decades, its a better question to ask "when are taxes low enough?"

The class warfare that exists was started by the wealthy so called "job creators" who refuse to provide decent compensation to the hard working Americans that have made this country great.

The only class warfare I see is the rich beating on the rest of America as if we are being punished.

 

[Moonglow]

I would guess that taxes equate to political power over others so the link below seems to be spot on.

Addiction Taxes « The Liberty Bullhorn

Class envy leads to class warfare... you decide!

"Class envy" is just another way of saying "the wealthy should be able to externalize as much cost as possible onto the backs of the working class so they can get richer at your expense"

In a free country if you don't want Bill Gates to get rich you are free to not buy his products!!

The idea of buying his products and then stealing the money back through liberal government is Nazi-like.

How are they stealing? Taxes? Taxes are not stealing.Taxes are a part of human existence and has been since the Ag revolution some 3000 years ago.
Repubs tax also, so they are Nazies, Independents are Nazies, why hell there is no government that does not tax in one way or the other. So your statement is not the truth. Or the whole world is Nazi-like.

 

[Moonglow]

I worked for 50 years and never knew how much taxes I paid. Most people don't have a clue and don't care. All I know was that what ever was asked of me I paid. That is what Jesus said for me to do. Taxes are lower under Obama than they ever were under these circumstance they should be at least back to the Clinton era. I was just glad to get a job, and the hell with what ever was taken out. I realize where my taxes go and some I don't like but what the hell.
I never heard taxes even mentions politically until Obama took office

Did jesus tell you to a hate filled assbite?

Do you need to ask?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The idea of buying his [Bill Gates]products and then stealing the money back through liberal government is Nazi-like.[/QUOTE]

How are they stealing? Taxes?

Barry said, "that's not yours." So it may not be stealing it may just be taking back what Gates stole in the first place, according to treasonous liberals.