When anti-gunners lie about the AR-15 rifle, or just get it completely wrong..

[AZrailwhale]

It is diesel.

It's diesel and fertlizer?

I'm assuming gasoline and fertilizer would also at least go pop/burn if not boom.

Gasoline combusts too quickly for an effective bomb.

 

[westwall]

It's diesel and fertlizer?

I'm assuming gasoline and fertilizer would also at least go pop/burn if not boom.

It will, just not very well. ANFO is the poor man's version of ANNM, which is heavily used in mining.

 

[martybegan]

It is diesel.
Gasoline combusts too quickly for an effective bomb.

so just burn.

got it.

 

[westwall]

so just burn.

got it.

Because of the volatility of gasoline, you have very little time where it is actually explosive. So it isn't useful for mining, or pretty much anything else.

 

[Chuz Life]

Post in thread 'Who do liberal gun owners vote for?'

Mar 1, 2020

I would like to remind both sides in this thread that the right to keep and bear arms PREDATES the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

The 2nd Amendment merely expounded on the people's right to bear arms and specifically notified the new Federal Government of "the people's" right to also organize into and form Militias, in defense of our freedoms.

• Chuz Life

 

[2aguy]

Oh, get real.

The American Revolution was a bunch of rich slave rapists who didn't want to pay their fair share in taxes.

If they had failed, we'd all be Canadians today. GASP. Not Canadians!!!

Not a good reason to let people like Adam Lanza and Joker Holmes have military-grade weapons to shoot up schools and theaters.

Hey, dumb ass...you actually vote for and support the political party created by slave rapists....the political party that started a Civil War to keep black humans as slaves and fought tooth and nail to keep blacks from having the same Rights as all Americans.....and members of your party started the kkk.....and you, you stupid ass.....support and vote for them...

 

[2aguy]

No, when the Founding Slave Rapists wrote that, guns were prohibitively expensive, which is why they didn't think the rabble would have them.

They certainly didn't want the slaves and indentured servants to have them.

Guns were only militarily useful when fired in volleys.


Really, then why are they called "Nuclear Arms"?

guns, you dumb ass, were one of the most common tools at the time...you idiot.

 

[2aguy]

yet most mass shooters use AR-15s, not shotguns.



More gun nutter revisionist history.

No, dumb shit, most mass shooters do not use AR-15s, the most common gun is the hand gun.

 

[2aguy]

yet we rarely hear about that, as opposed to 600 mass shootings a year.

You lying asshole.....

There are not 600 mass public shootings.....

From Mother Jones, mass public shooting database...

The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

US mass shootings, 1982–2026: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

2025....7

2024....2

2023....12

2022...12

2021...6

2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2024: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Bicycles killed 891 (2020)

Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019...



Total number of people killed in mass public shootings by year...in the United States, with over 350 million people, and over 600 million guns...

2024...8
2023...75
2022....74
2021...43
2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

 

[2aguy]

Common sense.

If every gun magically disappeared from the country tomorrow, most of us wouldn't be affected at all. Most Western democracies get along just fine without private gun ownership. Guns are a cultural thing, not a necessity at all.

YOU DON'T NEED A GUN.

Now, for good or ill, we've built our entire society around the automobile. Unlike your gun, which sits in your closet most of the time, I have to use my car at least three times a day. It's a critical tool I simply can't get by without.

But if you want to treat guns like automobiles, I'm down with that.

Every gun owner should be licensed, required to carry insurance, have their guns registered and licensed, and subject to periodic inspections. And we should have a sizeable portion of the Police dedicated to enforcing gun laws, instead of the paltry 2400 ATF agents.

The Western Democracies murdered more people in a few years than the gun murder in the entire 250 years of the United States...

Europe...

In the 1920s, they began the process of registering guns....to make their people safer. That was the lie. by the mid 1930s, the socialists in Germany began the process of banning and confiscating guns, and the same for the countries they defeated......using the gun registration lists created in the 1920s....

By 1939, the German socialists began to murder 15 million - 20 million people....in 6 years.....men, women and over 1 million children.

6 years, 15 million- 20 million murdered citizens..not war dead, not killed as a result of combat..... innocent people rounded up and murdered in camps and forests....

Including 1 million children

15 million in 6 years.

In the United States, gun murder for our entire 249 year history?

Around 2,490,000

Europe.... 15-20 million murdered in 6 years.

U.S..... 2,470,000 murdered in 247 years

How many hundreds of years will it take the U.S. to catch up with the number of Europeans murdered by their governments.....

Lives saved....based on research? By law abiding gun owners using guns to stop criminals?



Case Closed: Kleck Is Still Correct



There are roughly 100,000 people shot in the United States yearly, and something over 30,000 die. If this 1/3 vs. 2/3 ratio of deaths to injuries in actual shootings pertains in these DGUs, that makes for at least 176,000 lives saved—less some attackers who lost their lives to defenders. This enormous benefit dwarfs, both in human and economic terms, the losses trumpeted by hoplophobes who only choose to see the risk side of the equation.



https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/06/case-closed-kleck-is-still-correct/

 

[2aguy]

Black males create 53% of all homicide

Black males are about 7% of the population but commit over 50% of all murder.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Hey, dumb ass...you actually vote for and support the political party created by slave rapists....the political party that started a Civil War to keep black humans as slaves and fought tooth and nail to keep blacks from having the same Rights as all Americans.....and members of your party started the kkk.....and you, you stupid ass.....support and vote for them...

Not to mention that less than one percent of the pre-Constitution population owned slaves. Colonial America was a middle class country.

 

[DonGlock26]

This information was deviously hidden from you in things called "Books".

 

[DonGlock26]

Black males are about 7% of the population but commit over 50% of all murder.

Democrats don't care, since their rich neighborhoods are not affected.

 

[JoeB131]

And you couldn't get them to magically disappear. Criminals would still get them, or now criminals would know all they need is a knife or a bat or a sword/spear to commit their crimes.

Yet oddly, the Japanese and Europeans ban guns, and they don't have anywhere near our crime problems.

Imagine that.

The insane were generally confined under conditions that led to a short life and career criminals had short careers because capital punishment was widespread.

Um, guy, everyone had a short lifespan back then.

Law enforcement wasn't as widespread as you think. Most places didn't even have police forces. If you didn't catch the guy red handed in the act, you never were going to.

Nope, the reason they didn't have a lot of crime back then was that guns were rare, and the mentally ill were locked up.

 

[JoeB131]

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You are proving my point. Books scare you.

Speaking of guys terrified of books

You lying asshole.....

There are not 600 mass public shootings.....

We've been over this. A mass shooting is any incident where more than one person is killed or injured.

YOu want to define is as five or more people being killed, and thankfully, those are rare, but not as rare as you claim.

 

[DonGlock26]

You are proving my point. Books scare you.

Speaking of guys terrified of books


We've been over this. A mass shooting is any incident where more than one person is killed or injured.

YOu want to define is as five or more people being killed, and thankfully, those are rare, but not as rare as you claim.

Communist ideas lead to communist murders. Read a book indeed.

 

[JoeB131]

Communist ideas lead to communist murders. Read a book indeed.

Yeah, I've read it, it's good for a laugh.

Communism doesn't really work, but trying to blame it for famines is a little silly.

 

[DonGlock26]

Yeah, I've read it, it's good for a laugh.

Communism doesn't really work, but trying to blame it for famines is a little silly.

Do you always laugh at gov't sanctioned mass murder on an industrial scale?

 

[JoeB131]

Do you always laugh at gov't sanctioned mass murder on an industrial scale?

No, I just don't pretend it's unique to any one ideology.

We live in a country built on Genocide and Slavery; we really can't complain because Mao didn't understand agriculture.