What's your opinon on Obama's acceptance speech of Nobel Peace Prize

[The_Halfmoon]

He should not have given an acceptance speech, because he shouldn't have been awarded the Nobel prize. How good his speech may have been doesn't really enter into it.

You're full of crap.

He didn't have anything to do with being awarded the Nobel Prize.

one of his influential backers (probably George Soros) must've had something to do with it.

 

[saveliberty]

He didn't make any new friends in Europe or the Middle East with it. Miffed Norway off.

 

[Samson]

Dont really care. Didnt listen to it. I just dont want to hear about anything involving that fradulent prize whether its Obama or someone else winning it.

How can a "prize" be "fradulent?"

My team won second place in the pool league tournament and got a trophy: Was that "fradulent?"

I gave trophies to all the kids that I coached soccer: Were they all "fradulent?"

 

[JakeStarkey]

He didn't make any new friends in Europe or the Middle East with it. Miffed Norway off.

And none of what you think has relevance. You are simply unhappy that Obama gave a great speech, slapped the Bush administration, and re-directed American foreign policy back to mulitlateralism. Two words: too bad.

 

[Samson]

He didn't make any new friends in Europe or the Middle East with it. Miffed Norway off.

And none of what you think has relevance. You are simply unhappy that Obama gave a great speech, slapped the Bush administration, and re-directed American foreign policy back to mulitlateralism. Two words: too bad.

He miffed Norway.....OMG!!

Is there anything to support this? Should I expect Viking invaders rowing up the Hudson?

I don't think Obama "Slapped the Bush Admin." Please site where you think this was, because all I heard was his ommision of The Iraq War from wars that were "acceptable," (Invading Kuwait, Bosnia), but then he praised waging war for the support of democracy and human rights (Reasons for the Iraq War).

 

[saveliberty]

He didn't make any new friends in Europe or the Middle East with it. Miffed Norway off.

And none of what you think has relevance. You are simply unhappy that Obama gave a great speech, slapped the Bush administration, and re-directed American foreign policy back to mulitlateralism. Two words: too bad.

He miffed Norway.....OMG!!

Is there anything to support this? Should I expect Viking invaders rowing up the Hudson?

I don't think Obama "Slapped the Bush Admin." Please site where you think this was, because all I heard was his ommision of The Iraq War from wars that were "acceptable," (Invading Kuwait, Bosnia), but then he praised waging war for the support of democracy and human rights (Reasons for the Iraq War).

I think he did, but that is pretty much my reaction too.
In all the fray, it looks like a Swede is going home and that is the total damage.

 

[rdean]

Strange, most rightwing pundits said the speech was reminiscent of George Bush

Said the guy spoke a good scripted speech...

Does not change the fact that his ACTIONS as President have been in entirely the wrong direction and will probably continue to be that way

And which actions are you referring to?

Well, since ALL speeches are "scripted", scripted becomes a problem when they can't "whine" that he read it off a teleprompter.

As far as what "actions"? Well, like the right says, Obama is "Marxist, communist, racist, Fascists, extremist, socialists and anything else ending with I-S-T because all those terms are interchangeable. His "actions" was that a "black man" dared to move into the "White House". The only time you should be allowed to live in the White House is if you are the white color.

The guy said compared to other winners, his achievements were slight. But going from food stamps to the White House is NOT a small achievement.
Obama is "learning" to be president while on the job, something the "decider" never learned.

Just the look on those faces when he pointed out the fact to those EuroPEONS that their freedom was bought with the blood of American soldiers and is maintained by American Arms was worth the "slight" cost of going there.

The right hate Obama. They want him to FAIL. Obama hasn't done anything extreme. He has NOT made America less safe. Nothing they accuse him of happens. The right is made up of terrible and ignorant people who hate and who have become, in their ignorance, virulently anti-American. Very few are honest enough to admit it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Let's amend this to the far "right is made up of terrible and ignorant people who hate and who have become, in their ignorance, virulently anti-American."

And true Republicans want none such in the Party.

 

[saveliberty]

Said the guy spoke a good scripted speech...

Does not change the fact that his ACTIONS as President have been in entirely the wrong direction and will probably continue to be that way

And which actions are you referring to?

Well, since ALL speeches are "scripted", scripted becomes a problem when they can't "whine" that he read it off a teleprompter.

As far as what "actions"? Well, like the right says, Obama is "Marxist, communist, racist, Fascists, extremist, socialists and anything else ending with I-S-T because all those terms are interchangeable. His "actions" was that a "black man" dared to move into the "White House". The only time you should be allowed to live in the White House is if you are the white color.

The guy said compared to other winners, his achievements were slight. But going from food stamps to the White House is NOT a small achievement.
Obama is "learning" to be president while on the job, something the "decider" never learned.

Just the look on those faces when he pointed out the fact to those EuroPEONS that their freedom was bought with the blood of American soldiers and is maintained by American Arms was worth the "slight" cost of going there.

The right hate Obama. They want him to FAIL. Obama hasn't done anything extreme. He has NOT made America less safe. Nothing they accuse him of happens. The right is made up of terrible and ignorant people who hate and who have become, in their ignorance, virulently anti-American. Very few are honest enough to admit it.

I have not heard anyone here claim Obama's color disqualified him from office. You played the race card because you have weak arguements.

America is less safe, we had a terror attack on American soil on his watch. We have an expired nuclear treaty with Russia. Some of our NATO allies are ready to draw down now. Iran is more unstable than last year and so is Pakistan.

The right is asking for fiscal responsibility, curbed spending, a reduced deficit and limited government. All the while up holding the Constitution. Seems to me your little rant is the one spewing hate. The Dept. of HHS has just stated the Democratic plan for health care coverage will be more costly than doing nothing. Where is your honesty?

 

[Polk]

I am not an Obamaite, a fan, but I do think he gave a good speech here.

He stated flat out to Oslo, to people who think just a spoon full of sugar can make peace go round, that he has no solution to war, that in his life-time there will be war, and he will wage it if necessary.

The other thing he did was contrary to almost every other speech on foreign affairs he has given thus far, he did not apologise for the USA’s role in the world, and he reaffirmed it.

I like this speech and I hope Obama believes it.

It's not really that different from his other speeches. If you look back at the campaign especially, it echoes lots of previous comments.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The solid Republicans are asking for responsible measures.

The reactionary right, as represented by saveliberty et al, really want more deficit spending, larger and more intrusive government, and projection internationally of hard American power. They want a return to the Bush-Cheney era. They want power, and they will not give it up peacefully if they get it again.

We, the responsible Republicans, will not permit that in our party.

 

[saveliberty]

I am not an Obamaite, a fan, but I do think he gave a good speech here.

He stated flat out to Oslo, to people who think just a spoon full of sugar can make peace go round, that he has no solution to war, that in his life-time there will be war, and he will wage it if necessary.

The other thing he did was contrary to almost every other speech on foreign affairs he has given thus far, he did not apologise for the USA’s role in the world, and he reaffirmed it.

I like this speech and I hope Obama believes it.

It's not really that different from his other speeches. If you look back at the campaign especially, it echoes lots of previous comments.

Would you tell him the election is over. Time to be President. Rhetoric only goes so far.

 

[Polk]

I am not an Obamaite, a fan, but I do think he gave a good speech here.

He stated flat out to Oslo, to people who think just a spoon full of sugar can make peace go round, that he has no solution to war, that in his life-time there will be war, and he will wage it if necessary.

The other thing he did was contrary to almost every other speech on foreign affairs he has given thus far, he did not apologise for the USA’s role in the world, and he reaffirmed it.

I like this speech and I hope Obama believes it.

It's not really that different from his other speeches. If you look back at the campaign especially, it echoes lots of previous comments.

Would you tell him the election is over. Time to be President. Rhetoric only goes so far.

A statement of his political philosophy in a philosophical speech isn't campaigning. Also, do you really think presidents ever exit campaign mode?

 

[maineman]

great speech.... along with his Cairo speech, his top two.

Strong theological underpinnings for his support of just war.... plus, I think he put Europe in their place quite nicely.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Obama received his Nobel Peace Prize in Oslo Thursday. What's your opinion on his speech about how just the war could be? Don't you think it is inappropriate?

Yes I believe it was very inappropriate. How do you spend that much time talking about war while accepting a prize for peace? No matter how good the speech may or may not have been the subject matter was wrong for the occasion.

 

[rightwinger]

great speech.... along with his Cairo speech, his top two.

Strong theological underpinnings for his support of just war.... plus, I think he put Europe in their place quite nicely.

In any case, the award was an acknowledgement that the global community believes the US is moving in the right direction.
It was an honor for our president and for all of us

 

[rdean]

And which actions are you referring to?

Well, since ALL speeches are "scripted", scripted becomes a problem when they can't "whine" that he read it off a teleprompter.

As far as what "actions"? Well, like the right says, Obama is "Marxist, communist, racist, Fascists, extremist, socialists and anything else ending with I-S-T because all those terms are interchangeable. His "actions" was that a "black man" dared to move into the "White House". The only time you should be allowed to live in the White House is if you are the white color.

The guy said compared to other winners, his achievements were slight. But going from food stamps to the White House is NOT a small achievement.
Obama is "learning" to be president while on the job, something the "decider" never learned.

Just the look on those faces when he pointed out the fact to those EuroPEONS that their freedom was bought with the blood of American soldiers and is maintained by American Arms was worth the "slight" cost of going there.

The right hate Obama. They want him to FAIL. Obama hasn't done anything extreme. He has NOT made America less safe. Nothing they accuse him of happens. The right is made up of terrible and ignorant people who hate and who have become, in their ignorance, virulently anti-American. Very few are honest enough to admit it.

I have not heard anyone here claim Obama's color disqualified him from office. You played the race card because you have weak arguements.

America is less safe, we had a terror attack on American soil on his watch. We have an expired nuclear treaty with Russia. Some of our NATO allies are ready to draw down now. Iran is more unstable than last year and so is Pakistan.

The right is asking for fiscal responsibility, curbed spending, a reduced deficit and limited government. All the while up holding the Constitution. Seems to me your little rant is the one spewing hate. The Dept. of HHS has just stated the Democratic plan for health care coverage will be more costly than doing nothing. Where is your honesty?

1. Race isn't just about "black". Why do you think all the comments about Kenya and Muslim? He is NOT "one of us". Be honest.

2. Terror attack? From one crazy gunman? I think of Timothy McVeigh as a "terrorist" attack. I think of "Columbine" as a terrorist attack. I think of "Dan White" as a single crazed gunman. One planned out by a group of people for political or philosophical reasons with a social or political goal, the other, a "delusional" madman going bonkers.

3. Expired nuclear treaty with Russia? I like this part here:

Medvedev and Obama announced at their first meeting in April that the two countries would replace the START 1 treaty as part of their efforts to "reset" bilateral ties strained in recent years

Medvedev, Obama note progress in drafting new arms cuts treaty | Top Russian news and analysis online | 'RIA Novosti' newswire

Strained in recent years????????? What "recent years" could they be talking about? "Because I looked into his eyes and saw his soul." Could there be anything more retarded?????????

4. Some of our NATO allies are ready to draw down???? Good, maybe we can leave and save some money.

5. Iran is more unstable. That's because we have been leaving them alone. You have to explain everything to Republicans. Because we stopped giving them something to rally around, that's why they are imploding. Those people want religion OUT of government. By the way, in this country, most Republicans want MORE religion in government. Thought you should know that.

6. The right is asking for fiscal responsibility

I can't even get past that. Republicans didn't include the cost of either war in their budgets. They didn't work on the infrastructure (remember in Minnesota when a bridge fell down during rush hour and the news pointed out that more than 70,000 bridges in this country are classified as "unsafe"?). What did they do for health care. Talk to anyone from New Orleans lately? So how DID the right end up with such bloated budgets? They don't have anything to show for it. Where did it go?

And it's THESE GUYS who are going to be FISCALLY RESPONSIBILE???? THESE GUYS???? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Did I just call you "insane"?

 

[JakeStarkey]

All of that is why we are remaking the GOP with nothing like a saveliberty having any say at all other than being able to vote in the election.

 

[JW Frogen]

It's not really that different from his other speeches. If you look back at the campaign especially, it echoes lots of previous comments.

Would you tell him the election is over. Time to be President. Rhetoric only goes so far.

A statement of his political philosophy in a philosophical speech isn't campaigning. Also, do you really think presidents ever exit campaign mode?

I believe there was a basic ideological shift here, since he has been President he has concentrated on the soft power soft ball, throwing out apologies for America's past while praising other cultures, a rejection of American exceptionalism and reaffirmation of cultural relativism, this speech reverses course and does talk of America's exceptional role in the world, often by having to use military power.

I think he is switching gears here; he has tried the soft ball approach and got nothing from anyone, Russia, Iran, China, nothing.

He knows in his next year is going to have to play some hard ball, and he is setting the stage.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Excellent commentary. BHO was very good on American exceptionalism in the speech, and implied the rest of the free world owes its collective butt to American exceptionalism. Quite right, too.