whats your opinion about gun law suites

[Johnney]

with the story i jsut posted about a distruaght mom sueing wally world for selling her daughter an shotgun she used to kill herself. and another one which i can not remember where it happened, but the gun manufacturer is was sued because they sold arms to a dealer who in-turn sold them to someone who commited murder. do you think manufacturers should be held liable for what customers do with thier weapons?

 

[Johnney]

and another one which i can not remember where it happened, but the gun manufacturer is was sued because they sold arms to a dealer who in-turn sold them to someone who commited murder. do you think manufacturers should be held liable for what customers do with thier weapons?

that would be for the snipers, malvo and muhammed

 

[dilloduck]

that would be for the snipers, malvo and muhammed

no but personal injury lawyers don't go after the "bad" people--they go after the ones that can afford to pay.

 

[Jeff]

Guns dont kill ppl , ppl killl ppl!!!! these Lawsuits will be the down fall of America, not just these but all Lawsuits, lets face it Wally world didnt make no one put a gun to there head, but they willl more than likely pay. Ppl have gotten so sue-happy it is unreal & sickening!!!
:2guns:
Jeff

 

[fuzzykitten99]

holding gun mfrs responsible is like holding Chevy responsible for you running a red light or speeding. unless there is something mechanically wrong, nothing can happen unless SOMEONE operates it.

 

[Johnney]

holding gun mfrs responsible is like holding Chevy responsible for you running a red light or speeding. unless there is something mechanically wrong, nothing can happen unless SOMEONE operates it.

exactly! its going to be a shame when we degenerate into bady cavity searches and everyones closets being cleaned out to find out the only reason you cant get a firearm is you cheated on a test when you were in third grade.

 

[Merlin]

"IF" this article were true, all the gun laws on the books are rendered moot. I personally don't believe any gun laws are legitimate.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/12/20/83626.shtml



Guns Are An Individual Right
Geoff Metcalf
Monday, Dec. 20, 2004
"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."

--Thomas Jefferson
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Guess what? The Second Amendment, ("A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.") has, does, and will secure “an individual right to keep and bear arms.”
You knew that. I knew that. However, a cabal of leftists remains in denial over what even their own Constitutional scholar had concluded.

Notwithstanding the itching and moaning and gnashing of teeth from the left wing radical fringe, it is an empirical fact that our God given, inalienable right to keep and bear arms is FACT.

The U.S. Department of Justice's Office of Legal Counsel has officially concluded the Second Amendment "secures an individual right to keep and bear arms." Duh! Despite having been dated Aug. 24, the 93-page document was just released.

"Someone" delayed the release for apparent political reasons. This is passing strange considering even liberal Democrats acknowledge one of the key components that cost Al Gore his presidential dream was his having embraced the Chuck Schumer/Diane Fienstein/Babs Boxer anti-gun mantra.

The belatedly released research notes, "Examination of the original meaning of the Amendment provides extensive reasons to conclude that the Second Amendment secures an individual right, and no persuasive basis for either the collective-right or quasi-collective-right views." As Second Amendment Foundation founder Alan M. Gottlieb observed, “Henceforth, all Americans will know that the claim by anti-gunners that the amendment only protects some mythical right of the states to form militias and National Guard units is an outright fraud."

Please note the ‘allegedly unbiased’ mainstream hasn’t said “Jack” about this epiphany.

Even, liberal darling and Harvard Constitutional Law Professor Laurence Tribe acknowledged the obvious in 1999 (and again the mainstream media silence was deafening).

Tribe is arguably the most influential living American constitutional scholar. In 1999 he concluded, "the federal government may not disarm individual citizens without some unusually strong justification."

Tribe confirmed it includes an individual right, "admittedly of uncertain scope," to "possess and use firearms in the defense of themselves and their homes."

The personification of the Metcalf Bromide of “some people just don’t want to be confused with FACTS that contradict their preconceived opinions or prejudices” is, and has been, the ant-gun crowd.

In 2002 when a legal brief was filed by the Justice Department declaring that this protection extends to an individual's right to keep and bear arms irrespective of their involvement in a state militia the gun control crowd threw a hissy fit. Sonic wedgie time: "The worst fears about Attorney General Ashcroft have come true: His extreme ideology on guns has now become government policy." said Mike Barnes, president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

The Second Amendment has never been about bird hunting or target shooting. Such leftist babble was disingenuous, duplicitous and an outrage to defend the indefensible.

The fact is the Second Amendment was specifically intended to provide American citizens with the tools necessary to rise up and overthrow an abusive government. It was written by men who had just done that very thing.

The first three battles of the American Revolution were not about taxation, or representation - or even the list of grievances delineated in the Declaration of Independence - rather over gun control.

When Captain Parker faced off the British on the Green in Lexington it was to prevent the British from confiscating “powder and ball."

"There should be no doubt," Gottlieb concluded, "that those who have campaigned for restrictive gun laws or outright gun bans have been working to rob Americans of a constitutional right, a civil right. The time has come for America to re-examine every restrictive federal and state firearms statute, every local ordinance and every regulation, and start erasing those that were written solely to infringe on the rights of individual, law-abiding citizens to peaceably own firearms of their choice, without ever again having to explain why." Despite his righteous indignation, I hope Alan isn’t holding his breath.

It was again Thomas Jefferson who said, "The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themsleves against tyranny in government."

 

[CSM]

"IF" this article were true, all the gun laws on the books are rendered moot. I personally don't believe any gun laws are legitimate.

Wow, once again I find myself agreeing with Merlin. *checks forehead* I must be turning into a *GASP* liberal!

 

[Shattered]

If you're old enough to buy a gun, you're old enough to take full responsibility for the use of said gun. What you do with it isn't the manufacturers problem.

 

[CSM]

If you're old enough to buy a gun, you're old enough to take full responsibility for the use of said gun. What you do with it isn't the manufacturers problem.

Amen!

 

[Mr. P]

Another example of why we need Tort reform.

 

[dilloduck]

If you're old enough to buy a gun, you're old enough to take full responsibility for the use of said gun. What you do with it isn't the manufacturers problem.

It's simple really---guns scare liberals because they are afraid what they would do with one if they had it AND if they can somehow miraculously win a debate with a consevative they fear losing the ensuing gun battle due to improper self defense measures

 

[Johnney]

the only thing restrictions are going to do is put weapons into the hands of criminals and leaving the law-abiding citizens with no means to protect themselves. as ive stated before, i dont remember seeing a line for felonys and criminals to get a license to aquire. i can go to south clinton and get a cheap gun to do with what i want. no court house paperwork or authorization from the sherrif needed.

 

[NATO AIR]

the only thing restrictions are going to do is put weapons into the hands of criminals and leaving the law-abiding citizens with no means to protect themselves. as ive stated before, i dont remember seeing a line for felonys and criminals to get a license to aquire. i can go to south clinton and get a cheap gun to do with what i want. no court house paperwork or authorization from the sherrif needed.

i don't want the criminals to have the upper hand (gun laws suck except a few common sense ones)

alas, the mfrs. are not responsible, though i will be straight up honest, i sometimes wonder how in the hell gangs in neighborhoods get so many weapons, often very similiar, and i wonder if someone from the mfrs. or a major dealer isn't doing some very dangerous unter the table dealing

 

[Shattered]

i don't want the criminals to have the upper hand (gun laws suck except a few common sense ones)

alas, the mfrs. are not responsible, though i will be straight up honest, i sometimes wonder how in the hell gangs in neighborhoods get so many weapons, often very similiar, and i wonder if someone from the mfrs. or a major dealer isn't doing some very dangerous unter the table dealing

If they are, and they get caught, they get sentenced, and lose their license.

 

[Johnney]

i don't want the criminals to have the upper hand (gun laws suck except a few common sense ones)

alas, the mfrs. are not responsible, though i will be straight up honest, i sometimes wonder how in the hell gangs in neighborhoods get so many weapons, often very similiar, and i wonder if someone from the mfrs. or a major dealer isn't doing some very dangerous unter the table dealing

manufacturers onthe whole, imo, arent doing that. but the dealers on the other hand could be. it doesnt take too much to get a dealer license. i mean its more than a license to aquire, but still you can do it. and if they are like one of the freaks around here... if he could get away with it hed have his own militia i think.

 

[NATO AIR]

manufacturers onthe whole, imo, arent doing that. but the dealers on the other hand could be. it doesnt take too much to get a dealer license. i mean its more than a license to aquire, but still you can do it. and if they are like one of the freaks around here... if he could get away with it hed have his own militia i think.

believeable...

 

[manu1959]

why does the minority always get their way?

parents can't raise their kids.....kid buys a gun kills self...gun maufactures fault.....

the kid mad a huge misatke no doubt....should have shot her mom and then got some free therapy from the state

 

[Johnney]

why does the minority always get their way?

parents can't raise their kids.....kid buys a gun kills self...gun maufactures fault.....

the kid mad a huge misatke no doubt....should have shot her mom and then got some free therapy from the state

they cant raise them because everyone knows how to do it better than you do. jsut ask them, theyll tell you

 

[JOKER96BRAVO]

Guns don't kill people....
Husbands who come home early, kill people!!!