What's wrong with Sanders?

[The sheeple sea]

It's absolutely tragic that a man who is unapologetically running for the sake of people who work paycheck to paycheck is hated so much by people who are probably just getting by simply because they have been trained to see genuine populism as dangerous. Get a clue, what has voting for "business friendly" politicians gotten the vast majority of Americans? A plutocracy and a government that is totally unable to act in the interests the average wage earner.

That's not true at all. Philosophically I agree with many of the things Sanders is saying. The problem is the way he wants to get there would be absolutely destructive. He's not pitching anything new. It's all old washed up ideas that have been tried and failed in the past. His ideas have never brought anybody out of poverty, they've only dragged everybody down to an equal level of misery.

We failed at having free colleges and universal healthcare? Free colleges, being able to get a degree and change your place in life doesn't help people out of poverty? Raising minimum wage to a liveable wage doesn't help?
Did the last few raises in minimum wage fail? Would we be better off with 1.50 an hour?

Yes, they did.....and they always will.

So tell me about the dark age in american history where we had free healthcare and college.

 

[ScienceRocks]

It's absolutely tragic that a man who is unapologetically running for the sake of people who work paycheck to paycheck is hated so much by people who are probably just getting by simply because they have been trained to see genuine populism as dangerous. Get a clue, what has voting for "business friendly" politicians gotten the vast majority of Americans? A plutocracy and a government that is totally unable to act in the interests the average wage earner.

That's not true at all. Philosophically I agree with many of the things Sanders is saying. The problem is the way he wants to get there would be absolutely destructive. He's not pitching anything new. It's all old washed up ideas that have been tried and failed in the past. His ideas have never brought anybody out of poverty, they've only dragged everybody down to an equal level of misery.

We failed at having free colleges and universal healthcare? Free colleges, being able to get a degree and change your place in life doesn't help people out of poverty? Raising minimum wage to a liveable wage doesn't help?
Did the last few raises in minimum wage fail? Would we be better off with 1.50 an hour?

Yes, they did.....and they always will.

So tell me about the dark age in american history where we had free healthcare and college.

The 50s and 60s had the largest middle class in world history and the damn rich paid 60%+ in taxes. All Reagans policies did is destroy it.

 

[thereisnospoon]

It's absolutely tragic that a man who is unapologetically running for the sake of people who work paycheck to paycheck is hated so much by people who are probably just getting by simply because they have been trained to see genuine populism as dangerous. Get a clue, what has voting for "business friendly" politicians gotten the vast majority of Americans? A plutocracy and a government that is totally unable to act in the interests the average wage earner.

That's not true at all. Philosophically I agree with many of the things Sanders is saying. The problem is the way he wants to get there would be absolutely destructive. He's not pitching anything new. It's all old washed up ideas that have been tried and failed in the past. His ideas have never brought anybody out of poverty, they've only dragged everybody down to an equal level of misery.

We failed at having free colleges and universal healthcare? Free colleges, being able to get a degree and change your place in life doesn't help people out of poverty? Raising minimum wage to a liveable wage doesn't help?
Did the last few raises in minimum wage fail? Would we be better off with 1.50 an hour?

Hey sunshine..There is no such thing as "free".....Some one has GOT to pay.....Who pays for the utilities, the instructors, the facilities, etc?....Free? That's funny....
Ya know what the best scenario would be?...For the federal government to completely divest itself from higher education and END the student loan program as it exists today.
The result would be colleges and universities would have to compete for students. Prices would drop precipitously if the federal government were not sending gobs of money to schools.
if college didn't average out to over $15k per academic year, a lot more people could afford to make an attempt at earning a degree.
One thing though.....Politicians on this "free college kick" must be reminded that college is not for everyone.

 

[The Rabbi]

Successful countries like Greece and Venezuela, you mean.

Denmark, norway, finland, sweden, germany, britain... Might as well claim capitalism is a failure because of 2008. Cherrypicking 2 countries with a lack of context shows your idiocy.

Actually all of them failed to the extent they adopted Sanders' ideas.

LOL. The bullshit continues to flow.

Translation: I have no refutation for your point so I'll dismiss it.

Yes, socialism delivers 100% failure all the time.

You're the one who has to provide proof for your claims, there's a reason many countries rebuilding from WW2 took a "socialist" path.

Wrong.
Germany took a market path after WW2, accounting for the German Miracle. It wasnt until the late 60s and 70s they began adopting socialism. Similarly with the rest except for Britain. And Britain had years of tepid growth with inflation until Thatcher undid much of that.

 

[ScienceRocks]

College is a investment...And yes, the tax payers pay for it.

We have high living standards because of our investments.

 

[occupied]

It's absolutely tragic that a man who is unapologetically running for the sake of people who work paycheck to paycheck is hated so much by people who are probably just getting by simply because they have been trained to see genuine populism as dangerous. Get a clue, what has voting for "business friendly" politicians gotten the vast majority of Americans? A plutocracy and a government that is totally unable to act in the interests the average wage earner.

He is NOT running for the sake of people who work paycheck to paycheck. That is the same lie that every socialist zombie spews.

Nope, the big lie is the one that conservatives tell that we must have socialism for the wealthy and libertarianism for everyone else. Only you true believer zombies still buy all that "free trade" trickle down voodoo.

And that just makes you a dup...No conservative says that...

Sure they do, every time they talk about how awful the government treats the wealthy in spite of the tax cuts, loopholes, subsidizes and access we give them and then almost in the same breath denounce anything the government does that makes life better for the working class or the impoverished.

 

[danielpalos]

Every socialist has one goal in mind.....

Even the playing field by making EVERYONE poor EXCEPT the elites.

shouldn't socialists be competing with not conspiring with capitalists?

 

[The Rabbi]

It's absolutely tragic that a man who is unapologetically running for the sake of people who work paycheck to paycheck is hated so much by people who are probably just getting by simply because they have been trained to see genuine populism as dangerous. Get a clue, what has voting for "business friendly" politicians gotten the vast majority of Americans? A plutocracy and a government that is totally unable to act in the interests the average wage earner.

That's not true at all. Philosophically I agree with many of the things Sanders is saying. The problem is the way he wants to get there would be absolutely destructive. He's not pitching anything new. It's all old washed up ideas that have been tried and failed in the past. His ideas have never brought anybody out of poverty, they've only dragged everybody down to an equal level of misery.

We failed at having free colleges and universal healthcare? Free colleges, being able to get a degree and change your place in life doesn't help people out of poverty? Raising minimum wage to a liveable wage doesn't help?
Did the last few raises in minimum wage fail? Would we be better off with 1.50 an hour?

You have trouble paying attention, dontcha?
Universal healthcare is already a failure in every state that tried. Vermont tried to implement a truly free universal healthcare system and it never got off the ground.
Free college is a joke. We see how many unemployed and underemployed college grads there are, roughly 50%. Having people waste 4 years on degrees in medieval French literature does not help them.
Raising min wage destroys min wage jobs and cuts out the lowest rung on the ladder. Check black teenaged unemployment against min wage rises. The rate is nearly 50% now.
We would be better off with no min wage at alll. This way all workers could find jobs suitable to their job skills and begin working their way up. A concept that eludes libs.

 

[The Rabbi]

College is a investment...And yes, the tax payers pay for it.

We have high living standards because of our investments.

College can be a poor investment. Ask all those slobs with unmarketable degrees and high levels of student debt.
We suffer from investments in synfuels, green energy and the like.

 

[The sheeple sea]

It's absolutely tragic that a man who is unapologetically running for the sake of people who work paycheck to paycheck is hated so much by people who are probably just getting by simply because they have been trained to see genuine populism as dangerous. Get a clue, what has voting for "business friendly" politicians gotten the vast majority of Americans? A plutocracy and a government that is totally unable to act in the interests the average wage earner.

That's not true at all. Philosophically I agree with many of the things Sanders is saying. The problem is the way he wants to get there would be absolutely destructive. He's not pitching anything new. It's all old washed up ideas that have been tried and failed in the past. His ideas have never brought anybody out of poverty, they've only dragged everybody down to an equal level of misery.

We failed at having free colleges and universal healthcare? Free colleges, being able to get a degree and change your place in life doesn't help people out of poverty? Raising minimum wage to a liveable wage doesn't help?
Did the last few raises in minimum wage fail? Would we be better off with 1.50 an hour?

Hey sunshine..There is no such thing as "free".....Some one has GOT to pay.....Who pays for the utilities, the instructors, the facilities, etc?....Free? That's funny....
Ya know what the best scenario would be?...For the federal government to completely divest itself from higher education and END the student loan program as it exists today.
The result would be colleges and universities would have to compete for students. Prices would drop precipitously if the federal government were not sending gobs of money to schools.
if college didn't average out to over $15k per academic year, a lot more people could afford to make an attempt at earning a degree.
One thing though.....Politicians on this "free college kick" must be reminded that college is not for everyone.

Increase in top tier taxes, not being involved in middle East wars, prison reform so we aren't wasting tax money imprisoning hundreds of thousands of people a year and paying for their every need.

An audit on the DOD so that we aren't doing silly things like paying 200 billion dollars for a single stealth airplane. As well as buying 450 million dollars in tanks when the military says they don't want or need them because the company that made them lobbied the government.

I understand free CITIZEN college has a cost and I know where the money will come from, pretty clear, simply stated. You think people don't understand that free services cost money, but I do, and looked into the plans Bernie has to pay for those services. Maybe you should too before you tell me I don't understand.

 

[The Rabbi]

It's absolutely tragic that a man who is unapologetically running for the sake of people who work paycheck to paycheck is hated so much by people who are probably just getting by simply because they have been trained to see genuine populism as dangerous. Get a clue, what has voting for "business friendly" politicians gotten the vast majority of Americans? A plutocracy and a government that is totally unable to act in the interests the average wage earner.

That's not true at all. Philosophically I agree with many of the things Sanders is saying. The problem is the way he wants to get there would be absolutely destructive. He's not pitching anything new. It's all old washed up ideas that have been tried and failed in the past. His ideas have never brought anybody out of poverty, they've only dragged everybody down to an equal level of misery.

We failed at having free colleges and universal healthcare? Free colleges, being able to get a degree and change your place in life doesn't help people out of poverty? Raising minimum wage to a liveable wage doesn't help?
Did the last few raises in minimum wage fail? Would we be better off with 1.50 an hour?

Yes, they did.....and they always will.

So tell me about the dark age in american history where we had free healthcare and college.

The 50s and 60s had the largest middle class in world history and the damn rich paid 60%+ in taxes. All Reagans policies did is destroy it.

Reagan wasnt president until 1981, dunce. Prior to Reagan we had 15% inflation under Carter, which did destroy the one family income.
You arent very well informed. I'd suggest quit posting here and start reading books.

 

[Darkwind]

It's absolutely tragic that a man who is unapologetically running for the sake of people who work paycheck to paycheck is hated so much by people who are probably just getting by simply because they have been trained to see genuine populism as dangerous. Get a clue, what has voting for "business friendly" politicians gotten the vast majority of Americans? A plutocracy and a government that is totally unable to act in the interests the average wage earner.

He is NOT running for the sake of people who work paycheck to paycheck. That is the same lie that every socialist zombie spews.

Nope, the big lie is the one that conservatives tell that we must have socialism for the wealthy and libertarianism for everyone else. Only you true believer zombies still buy all that "free trade" trickle down voodoo.

And that just makes you a dup...No conservative says that...

Sure they do, every time they talk about how awful the government treats the wealthy in spite of the tax cuts, loopholes, subsidizes and access we give them and then almost in the same breath denounce anything the government does that makes life better for the working class or the impoverished.

Again, you are assigning intent that does not exist. These are you own feelings (without rational analysis, or they are simply given to you because you are a follower). No one talks about how aweful government treats the wealthy...They talk about the greed of those who failed to become successful wanting to use government as the tool to help them with their own inadequacy.

No one denouces things government does to make life better for anyone. They question the rights of government to even do so. There is no provision in the government to determine who should be winners, losers, or to take from one man's labor to give to another. Regardless of the motivation.

 

[Darkwind]

Every socialist has one goal in mind.....

Even the playing field by making EVERYONE poor EXCEPT the elites.

shouldn't socialists be competing with not conspiring with capitalists?

Socialists should be shunned and ridiculed at every turn.

 

[The sheeple sea]

It's absolutely tragic that a man who is unapologetically running for the sake of people who work paycheck to paycheck is hated so much by people who are probably just getting by simply because they have been trained to see genuine populism as dangerous. Get a clue, what has voting for "business friendly" politicians gotten the vast majority of Americans? A plutocracy and a government that is totally unable to act in the interests the average wage earner.

That's not true at all. Philosophically I agree with many of the things Sanders is saying. The problem is the way he wants to get there would be absolutely destructive. He's not pitching anything new. It's all old washed up ideas that have been tried and failed in the past. His ideas have never brought anybody out of poverty, they've only dragged everybody down to an equal level of misery.

We failed at having free colleges and universal healthcare? Free colleges, being able to get a degree and change your place in life doesn't help people out of poverty? Raising minimum wage to a liveable wage doesn't help?
Did the last few raises in minimum wage fail? Would we be better off with 1.50 an hour?

You have trouble paying attention, dontcha?
Universal healthcare is already a failure in every state that tried. Vermont tried to implement a truly free universal healthcare system and it never got off the ground.
Free college is a joke. We see how many unemployed and underemployed college grads there are, roughly 50%. Having people waste 4 years on degrees in medieval French literature does not help them.
Raising min wage destroys min wage jobs and cuts out the lowest rung on the ladder. Check black teenaged unemployment against min wage rises. The rate is nearly 50% now.
We would be better off with no min wage at alll. This way all workers could find jobs suitable to their job skills and begin working their way up. A concept that eludes libs.

First of all universal health care would only work on a national level, a state level would meet too many roadblocks. And no, people shouldn't get a degree in medieval french literature we should focus on free college for relevant degrees that are understaffed in America, chemical engineers, chemists, biologists, geneticists, structural engineers and other technical science degrees. And I'm sure if you have no minimum wage it would really help. Stop giving people welfare or unemployment and let them starve on 1.50 an hour, oh, but if they make mananger in the inner city they might get a 2 dollar raise. Moving on up!

 

[Darkwind]

It's absolutely tragic that a man who is unapologetically running for the sake of people who work paycheck to paycheck is hated so much by people who are probably just getting by simply because they have been trained to see genuine populism as dangerous. Get a clue, what has voting for "business friendly" politicians gotten the vast majority of Americans? A plutocracy and a government that is totally unable to act in the interests the average wage earner.

That's not true at all. Philosophically I agree with many of the things Sanders is saying. The problem is the way he wants to get there would be absolutely destructive. He's not pitching anything new. It's all old washed up ideas that have been tried and failed in the past. His ideas have never brought anybody out of poverty, they've only dragged everybody down to an equal level of misery.

We failed at having free colleges and universal healthcare? Free colleges, being able to get a degree and change your place in life doesn't help people out of poverty? Raising minimum wage to a liveable wage doesn't help?
Did the last few raises in minimum wage fail? Would we be better off with 1.50 an hour?

You have trouble paying attention, dontcha?
Universal healthcare is already a failure in every state that tried. Vermont tried to implement a truly free universal healthcare system and it never got off the ground.
Free college is a joke. We see how many unemployed and underemployed college grads there are, roughly 50%. Having people waste 4 years on degrees in medieval French literature does not help them.
Raising min wage destroys min wage jobs and cuts out the lowest rung on the ladder. Check black teenaged unemployment against min wage rises. The rate is nearly 50% now.
We would be better off with no min wage at alll. This way all workers could find jobs suitable to their job skills and begin working their way up. A concept that eludes libs.

First of all universal health care would only work on a national level, a state level would meet too many roadblocks. And no, people shouldn't get a degree in medieval french literature we should focus on free college for relevant degrees that are understaffed in America, chemical engineers, chemists, biologists, geneticists, structural engineers and other technical science degrees. And I'm sure if you have no minimum wage it would really help. Stop giving people welfare or unemployment and let them starve on 1.50 an hour, oh, but if they make mananger in the inner city they might get a 2 dollar raise. Moving on up!

I'm sure that people who have no clue on how business works would believe as you do...

 

[The sheeple sea]

It's absolutely tragic that a man who is unapologetically running for the sake of people who work paycheck to paycheck is hated so much by people who are probably just getting by simply because they have been trained to see genuine populism as dangerous. Get a clue, what has voting for "business friendly" politicians gotten the vast majority of Americans? A plutocracy and a government that is totally unable to act in the interests the average wage earner.

That's not true at all. Philosophically I agree with many of the things Sanders is saying. The problem is the way he wants to get there would be absolutely destructive. He's not pitching anything new. It's all old washed up ideas that have been tried and failed in the past. His ideas have never brought anybody out of poverty, they've only dragged everybody down to an equal level of misery.

We failed at having free colleges and universal healthcare? Free colleges, being able to get a degree and change your place in life doesn't help people out of poverty? Raising minimum wage to a liveable wage doesn't help?
Did the last few raises in minimum wage fail? Would we be better off with 1.50 an hour?

You have trouble paying attention, dontcha?
Universal healthcare is already a failure in every state that tried. Vermont tried to implement a truly free universal healthcare system and it never got off the ground.
Free college is a joke. We see how many unemployed and underemployed college grads there are, roughly 50%. Having people waste 4 years on degrees in medieval French literature does not help them.
Raising min wage destroys min wage jobs and cuts out the lowest rung on the ladder. Check black teenaged unemployment against min wage rises. The rate is nearly 50% now.
We would be better off with no min wage at alll. This way all workers could find jobs suitable to their job skills and begin working their way up. A concept that eludes libs.

First of all universal health care would only work on a national level, a state level would meet too many roadblocks. And no, people shouldn't get a degree in medieval french literature we should focus on free college for relevant degrees that are understaffed in America, chemical engineers, chemists, biologists, geneticists, structural engineers and other technical science degrees. And I'm sure if you have no minimum wage it would really help. Stop giving people welfare or unemployment and let them starve on 1.50 an hour, oh, but if they make mananger in the inner city they might get a 2 dollar raise. Moving on up!

I'm sure that people who have no clue on how business works would believe as you do...

Great, explain to me why I'm wrong.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

College is a investment...And yes, the tax payers pay for it.

We have high living standards because of our investments.

You already get a "free" education when you're a kid. If you want more as an adult then pay for it yourself. That's what adults do. It's called responsibility. At least, most adults, anyway. I gather you're an exception.

 

[The Rabbi]

It's absolutely tragic that a man who is unapologetically running for the sake of people who work paycheck to paycheck is hated so much by people who are probably just getting by simply because they have been trained to see genuine populism as dangerous. Get a clue, what has voting for "business friendly" politicians gotten the vast majority of Americans? A plutocracy and a government that is totally unable to act in the interests the average wage earner.

That's not true at all. Philosophically I agree with many of the things Sanders is saying. The problem is the way he wants to get there would be absolutely destructive. He's not pitching anything new. It's all old washed up ideas that have been tried and failed in the past. His ideas have never brought anybody out of poverty, they've only dragged everybody down to an equal level of misery.

We failed at having free colleges and universal healthcare? Free colleges, being able to get a degree and change your place in life doesn't help people out of poverty? Raising minimum wage to a liveable wage doesn't help?
Did the last few raises in minimum wage fail? Would we be better off with 1.50 an hour?

You have trouble paying attention, dontcha?
Universal healthcare is already a failure in every state that tried. Vermont tried to implement a truly free universal healthcare system and it never got off the ground.
Free college is a joke. We see how many unemployed and underemployed college grads there are, roughly 50%. Having people waste 4 years on degrees in medieval French literature does not help them.
Raising min wage destroys min wage jobs and cuts out the lowest rung on the ladder. Check black teenaged unemployment against min wage rises. The rate is nearly 50% now.
We would be better off with no min wage at alll. This way all workers could find jobs suitable to their job skills and begin working their way up. A concept that eludes libs.

First of all universal health care would only work on a national level, a state level would meet too many roadblocks. And no, people shouldn't get a degree in medieval french literature we should focus on free college for relevant degrees that are understaffed in America, chemical engineers, chemists, biologists, geneticists, structural engineers and other technical science degrees. And I'm sure if you have no minimum wage it would really help. Stop giving people welfare or unemployment and let them starve on 1.50 an hour, oh, but if they make mananger in the inner city they might get a 2 dollar raise. Moving on up!

So one failure isnt enough. Yoy want it to fail real big. If it cannot work in Vermont, which is a relatively healthy state, it will not work nationally.
The degrees in demand vary through an economy. When I was in school (c.1980) petroleum geologists were all the rage. About 10 years later none of them could get jobs, as the oil market had collapsed.
If people have a starting point they can get job skills. If they have no starting point they remain dependent on welfare forever. Why should someone create a job worth $4/hr if he has to pay 15/hr? He simply wont create the job.
Why should we give people extended unemployment benefits when it has been demonstrated that such benefits cause unemployment?

 

[Darkwind]

That's not true at all. Philosophically I agree with many of the things Sanders is saying. The problem is the way he wants to get there would be absolutely destructive. He's not pitching anything new. It's all old washed up ideas that have been tried and failed in the past. His ideas have never brought anybody out of poverty, they've only dragged everybody down to an equal level of misery.

We failed at having free colleges and universal healthcare? Free colleges, being able to get a degree and change your place in life doesn't help people out of poverty? Raising minimum wage to a liveable wage doesn't help?
Did the last few raises in minimum wage fail? Would we be better off with 1.50 an hour?

You have trouble paying attention, dontcha?
Universal healthcare is already a failure in every state that tried. Vermont tried to implement a truly free universal healthcare system and it never got off the ground.
Free college is a joke. We see how many unemployed and underemployed college grads there are, roughly 50%. Having people waste 4 years on degrees in medieval French literature does not help them.
Raising min wage destroys min wage jobs and cuts out the lowest rung on the ladder. Check black teenaged unemployment against min wage rises. The rate is nearly 50% now.
We would be better off with no min wage at alll. This way all workers could find jobs suitable to their job skills and begin working their way up. A concept that eludes libs.

First of all universal health care would only work on a national level, a state level would meet too many roadblocks. And no, people shouldn't get a degree in medieval french literature we should focus on free college for relevant degrees that are understaffed in America, chemical engineers, chemists, biologists, geneticists, structural engineers and other technical science degrees. And I'm sure if you have no minimum wage it would really help. Stop giving people welfare or unemployment and let them starve on 1.50 an hour, oh, but if they make mananger in the inner city they might get a 2 dollar raise. Moving on up!

I'm sure that people who have no clue on how business works would believe as you do...

Great, explain to me why I'm wrong.

Lets begin with people starving on 1.50 per hour.....

No person in this country would work for that wage...which means that an employer is going to need to determine the value of a jobs worth to the company.....this involves a number of factors which are far to numerous for this single thread or reply. If you want to know how a wage is determined, I suggest you take out a loan and go to school and get a degree in business.

Suffice it to say, that every job except entry level jobs, require a specific number of skills that can be utilized. There also needs to be a history of the person willing to expand and take on increasing levels of responsibility and task complexity. Any employer who sees this in a candidate for employement, along with a willingness to learn will earn more than the average entry level person

If you, as an individual, wish to increase your paycheck, you recognize this and put out the extra effort to increase your talents, knowledge, and skills. All of these things are an ongoing and continuous process that will last the rest of your life.

If you sit back and think you've made it, you just lost the race.

People who apply themselves in this manner will get the jobs and NOT STARVE, regardless of the job market.....and employers will always pay more for these kinds of workers vs those what do just to get by.

That is just the introduction to Business 101.....you have about 50 more years to learn more?

 

[The Rabbi]

We failed at having free colleges and universal healthcare? Free colleges, being able to get a degree and change your place in life doesn't help people out of poverty? Raising minimum wage to a liveable wage doesn't help?
Did the last few raises in minimum wage fail? Would we be better off with 1.50 an hour?

You have trouble paying attention, dontcha?
Universal healthcare is already a failure in every state that tried. Vermont tried to implement a truly free universal healthcare system and it never got off the ground.
Free college is a joke. We see how many unemployed and underemployed college grads there are, roughly 50%. Having people waste 4 years on degrees in medieval French literature does not help them.
Raising min wage destroys min wage jobs and cuts out the lowest rung on the ladder. Check black teenaged unemployment against min wage rises. The rate is nearly 50% now.
We would be better off with no min wage at alll. This way all workers could find jobs suitable to their job skills and begin working their way up. A concept that eludes libs.

First of all universal health care would only work on a national level, a state level would meet too many roadblocks. And no, people shouldn't get a degree in medieval french literature we should focus on free college for relevant degrees that are understaffed in America, chemical engineers, chemists, biologists, geneticists, structural engineers and other technical science degrees. And I'm sure if you have no minimum wage it would really help. Stop giving people welfare or unemployment and let them starve on 1.50 an hour, oh, but if they make mananger in the inner city they might get a 2 dollar raise. Moving on up!

I'm sure that people who have no clue on how business works would believe as you do...

Great, explain to me why I'm wrong.

Lets begin with people starving on 1.50 per hour.....

No person in this country would work for that wage...which means that an employer is going to need to determine the value of a jobs worth to the company.....this involves a number of factors which are far to numerous for this single thread or reply. If you want to know how a wage is determined, I suggest you take out a loan and go to school and get a degree in business.

Suffice it to say, that every job except entry level jobs, require a specific number of skills that can be utilized. There also needs to be a history of the person willing to expand and take on increasing levels of responsibility and task complexity. Any employer who sees this in a candidate for employement, along with a willingness to learn will earn more than the average entry level person

If you, as an individual, wish to increase your paycheck, you recognize this and put out the extra effort to increase your talents, knowledge, and skills. All of these things are an ongoing and continuous process that will last the rest of your life.

If you sit back and think you've made it, you just lost the race.

People who apply themselves in this manner will get the jobs and NOT STARVE, regardless of the job market.....and employers will always pay more for these kinds of workers vs those what do just to get by.

That is just the introduction to Business 101.....you have about 50 more years to learn more?

You're dealing with people who think corporate CEOs are grossly overpaid but Nikki Minaj is a superstar. I.e. they dont have a ******* clue about jobs, work, labor, economics, business, or anything else. They think if employers could, they would simply cut wages to 25cents/hr and everyone would simply take that wage rather than look for better paying work.