Zone1 What’s behind the demonization of Israel?

[Moonglow]

Votto

You’ll notice that instead of discussing the reasons why Israel is being demonized, the antisemites have gathered to continue to demonize Israel.

Antisemitism is now at pre-Nazi Germany levels, circa 1938. Even American university presidents are unwilling to condemn calls to genocide the Jews for fear of offending Islam.

You have been told, but you reject it.

 

[rightwinger]

You’ll notice that instead of discussing the reasons why Israel is being demonized, the antisemites have gathered to continue to demonize Israel.

Israel is being demonized for their actions and slaughter of innocent civilians

That is not antisemitism

 

[Dogmaphobe]

" Hey, I got nothing against those damn Jew devils!" "It's just that I support the destruction of Israel and support Hamas killing all the non-Arab residents of the Zionist Entity".

Can't you see the difference?

 

[TNHarley]

If you look at the population of Gaza over they years, you will find that it steadily increased, while all the claims of genocide persisted. So, if Israel was trying to engage in an open genocide, they really suck at it.

Then when they went to war after 10/7, naturally people began to die in large numbers.

No argument from me.
The "open air prison" thing was BS too. Peole slammed Israel for it, but never said a word about Egypt doing the same thing. Nobody wanted the palis in their country.

Is it your position that Israel staged 10/7 to give an excuse to start killing people randomly? If so, why? What was to gain from the 75,000 dead? And I assume those numbers also come from Hamas. Am I right?

Well, the stand down order, and the fact that they knew it was abotu to happen, certainly gives off that vibe.
Exactly what happened. The bulldozing of gaza.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

People, people, people -- don't you realize that since Oct 6, the Zionist entity has murdered 1.3 million Palestinians and 4.8 million of those were women and children?

You need to listen to Hamas and only Hamas just like I do because they envision a wonderful world where women are nothing but chattel and anybody suspected of being gay is killed on sight.

 

[Winston]

This is a report based on actual names

There are 60,199 in this list of names of those known to have been killed in Gaza since October 7, 2023. Of these, 1,137 were senior ladies, 1,791 were senior men, 10,271 were women, 28,543 were men, 7,801 were girls and 10,656 were boys.

Killed in Gaza | Palestine Datasets

List of known victims with their arabic name, english name, birth date, gender, and ID number. Derived from a list issued by health officials in Gaza. Available in JSON and CSV formats. Useful applications include tributes, demographics, search, family analysis.

data.techforpalestine.org

This is why people hate Israel

That list really isn't all that bad, IF all the men were Hamas fighters. That would give us a civilian casualty ratio of a little more than half. Damn good in today's sick war environment. Korean War, 74% Civilian casualty rate, Gulf War, damn 87%. And what is happening in Iran?

But this whole thing in Gaza can only be defined as genocide. Yes, October 7 was probably a black flag op, there was a stand down order. Now, Iran was used as cover for Israel to attack Lebanon. And what is going on in the West Bank is nothing short of the Wild, Wild, West--with automatic weapons instead of Colts.

 

[IM2]

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces​

The premier’s policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from​

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces

The premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from

www.timesofisrael.com

This is why we oppose what the government of Israel is doing.

I have zero sympathy for whining coming from a racist anti black Jewish b.

STHU Lisa.

 

[Lisa558]

People, people, people -- don't you realize that since Oct 6, the Zionist entity has murdered 1.3 million Palestinians and 4.8 million of those were women and children?

You need to listen to Hamas and only Hamas just like I do because they envision a wonderful world where women are nothing but chattel and anybody suspected of being gay is killed on sight.

That’s the world the Left is fighting for.

 

[Votto]

Votto

You’ll notice that instead of discussing the reasons why Israel is being demonized, the antisemites have gathered to continue to demonize Israel.

Antisemitism is now at pre-Nazi Germany levels, circa 1938. Even American university presidents are unwilling to condemn calls to genocide the Jews for fear of offending Islam.

It is a rather cruel joke to call Jews the same name as those who murdered 6 million of them in Nazi Germany.

Sick.

But the rhetoric continues because they want the world to do to the Zionist nation the same thing they tried to do to Trump 3 times, which is why they keep calling him Hitler.

They want all 7 million Jews in Israel to be caste into the sea and never to be heard from again.

Then they will probably go try to murder Trump again.

 

[BackAgain]

Ever since the Islamic massacre of innocent Jews on 10/7, and committed on the most joyous holiday of the Jewish calendar, antisemites have taken to demonizing Israel - and the Jews who support it. In this article by Victor Davis Hansen, the following reasons are discussed:

1. DEI proponents “established” that there are groups with supposedly legitimate grievances for whom all sorts of exceptions are made because, well….they're oppressed. That has empowered them to voice all sorts of heinous, racist opinions, as they know their “oppressed status” gives them leniency, and people are afraid to criticize the protected binary.

2. Demographics. Muslims are overtaking Jews in population, due not only to immigration but their much higher birthrate. As it now stands, some areas are majority Muslim, and the antipathy to Jews Is palatable. Muslim are now serving on the local boards of leftist areas, and of course are making inroads into mayoral and Congressional spots - and bringing their Israel-hate along with them.

3. Money. Rich Arab countries have bought their way into American universities with billions of dollars - and the leftist schools already predisposed to siding with Muslims over Jews are bought and paid for. The anti-Israel indoctrination starts with freshmen orientation with “anti-Israel” booklets and lapses over into overt antisemitism with “No Jew zones’ and bullying and assaults of Jewish students.

The Demonization of Israel

Victor Davis Hanson breaks down the reasons antisemitism is on the rise in America, and the reasons it is becoming acceptable.

www.dailysignal.com

Apparently, what’s “behind” it all is a belief that (for some inexplicable reasons) there is something improper about Israel fighting for the lives of its citizens.

How DARE those Jews behave like all other nations?

 

[Lisa558]

It is a rather cruel joke to call Jews the same name as those who murdered 6 million of them in Nazi Germany.

Sick.

But the rhetoric continues because they want the world to do to the Zionist nation the same thing they tried to do to Trump 3 times, which is why they keep calling him Hitler.

They want all 7 million Jews in Israel to be caste into the sea and never to be heard from again.

Then they will probably go try to murder Trump again.

That’s the reason they call Jews Nazis. It’s the most sick, offensive thing the antisemites can think of.

 

[Lisa558]

Apparently, what’s “behind” it all is a belief that (for some inexplicable reasons) there is something improper about Israel fighting for the lives of its citizens.

How DARE those Jews behave like all other nations?

Those are the double standards that reveal the antisemitism. They expect Jews to lay down and allow themselves to be exterminated.

They would NEVER expect that of anyone else.

 

[IM2]

It is a rather cruel joke to call Jews the same name as those who murdered 6 million of them in Nazi Germany.

Sick.

But the rhetoric continues because they want the world to do to the Zionist nation the same thing they tried to do to Trump 3 times, which is why they keep calling him Hitler.

They want all 7 million Jews in Israel to be caste into the sea and never to be heard from again.

Then they will probably go try to murder Trump again.

Wong. If the government of Israel is doing the same thing, it should be called what it is.

 

[BackAgain]

Those are the double standards that reveal the antisemitism. They expect Jews to lay down and allow themselves to be exterminated.

They would NEVER expect that of anyone else.

That is true. And what’s the crucial difference that they think allows their double standard? Israel, as a nation, is a Jewish nation.

 

[Lisa558]

That is true. And what’s the crucial difference that they think allows their double standard? Israel, as a nation, is a Jewish nation.

And it’s the ONLY Jewish nation, and a tiny one at that. In the meantime, they make excuses for the many backwards, immoral Arab countries - and even defend them.

Take, for example, this “Greater Israel” theory - an antisemitic theory that taps into all the tropes about Jewish power. Then consider that Israel represents 0.4% of the land mass, so that even if it doubled - which it has no intent to do - it would still amount to less than 1% of the land.

Now consider the Muslims, who didn’t even exist until the 7th century. They slaughtered and conquered their way across all of the Middle East, Northern Africa, and even as far as Spain. They now control 99.6% of the land mass in the Middle East, and are making inroads into areas of Europe and America as well.

And yet….it’s those meanie Jews who are taking over!!

 

[rightwinger]

That’s the reason they call Jews Nazis. It’s the most sick, offensive thing the antisemites can think of.

Call it what you will
Just because you didn’t start a war that killed 25 million people does not mean you don’t deserve to be condemned.

Israel is not the good guys

 

[luiza]

The truth hurts, don't be ashamed.

A small adjustment .

 

[BackAgain]

Call it what you will
Just because you didn’t start a war that killed 25 million people does not mean you don’t deserve to be condemned.

Israel is not the good guys

Actually, not only did Israel not start a war but they absolutely never killed millions of people.

Israel is absolutely on team “good guy.”

 

[Lisa558]

Wong. If the government of Israel is doing the same thing, it should be called what it is.

But it isn’t doing the same thing. That’s just what a racist, antisemitic black bastard says. STFU.

 

[Lisa558]

Actually, not only did Israel not start a war but they absolutely never killed millions of people.

Israel is absolutely on team “good guy.”

Rightwinger is a leftwinger, which mean he is driven by antisemitism to consider Israel the bad guy.

And where did he come up with this 25 million people killed stuff?