What You Are Missing: The Children of Hamas

[TemplarKormac]

This is truly gut wrenching. And all we hear is how Israel is killing children, yet Hamas uses their children as weapons of war against them. Those children wouldn't die if they weren't exposed to the hells of war by those barbarians in Hamas.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNbWoIO5Vv4"]Children of Hamas - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Daniyel]

Nah nobody care-
They busy blaming Israel.

 

[peach174]

We care here in America.
Most blame Hamas as well as some in England.
The Liberals blame Israel.
The Conservatives blame Hamas.

 

[irosie91]

We care here in America.
Most blame Hamas as well as some in England.
The Liberals blame Israel.
The Conservatives blame Hamas.

we have been caring for a long time. we have actually done virtually nothing to salvage.

--charitable nice people do stuff -------in a microcosm sort of way------but in general we just
watch it happen------I became aware of that fact circa 1970----when genocides hit Biafra,
east Pakistan, Uganda, etc etc. Now we got a genocide in Syria and Iraq. Way
back -----100 years ago-----most people did not know that Armenians were being clubbed
to death ------insufficient communication. World war II----lots of people denied the hazy
reality--------so now we know-----we even get pictures.

 

[peach174]

We care here in America.
Most blame Hamas as well as some in England.
The Liberals blame Israel.
The Conservatives blame Hamas.

we have been caring for a long time. we have actually done virtually nothing to salvage.

--charitable nice people do stuff -------in a microcosm sort of way------but in general we just
watch it happen------I became aware of that fact circa 1970----when genocides hit Biafra,
east Pakistan, Uganda, etc etc. Now we got a genocide in Syria and Iraq. Way
back -----100 years ago-----most people did not know that Armenians were being clubbed
to death ------insufficient communication. World war II----lots of people denied the hazy
reality--------so now we know-----we even get pictures.

You can't salvage anything till Hamas gets out of Gaza.

 

[Auldhippy]

You can't salvage anything till Hamas gets out of Gaza.

Hamas hold the democratic mandate of the people of Gaza & the West Bank, won in fair and scrutinised elections.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You can't salvage anything till Hamas gets out of Gaza.

Hamas hold the democratic mandate of the people of Gaza & the West Bank, won in fair and scrutinised elections.

And you're full of crap. Rigged elections, perhaps.

 

[peach174]

You can't salvage anything till Hamas gets out of Gaza.

Hamas hold the democratic mandate of the people of Gaza & the West Bank, won in fair and scrutinised elections.

Read this article
http://www.haaretz.com/news/hamas-condemns-unlawful-abbas-election-call-1.5521

Political analyst Hani al-Masri said Abbas' decree sought to reaffirm his legitimacy as president while pressuring Hamas into accepting a reconciliation agreement. Abbas was elected in 2005 to a four-year term that was later extended by a year, a move Hamas has refused to recognize.

I don't know if they will still have their next elections this fall or not.
Hamas will probably try to stop it somehow like they did the last time. Hamas did not win fairly.

 

[Phoenall]

You can't salvage anything till Hamas gets out of Gaza.

Hamas hold the democratic mandate of the people of Gaza & the West Bank, won in fair and scrutinised elections.

Not according to tinny who says that the P.A. is not valid as the time is up for the Palestinian leaders term of office

 

[Auldhippy]

You can't salvage anything till Hamas gets out of Gaza.

Hamas hold the democratic mandate of the people of Gaza & the West Bank, won in fair and scrutinised elections.

And you're full of crap. Rigged elections, perhaps.

Nope, fair & scrutinised in full glare of the world's media & Jimmy Carter. Then they survive the GWB/Rice/Abrams arranged coup etat whereby Israel arms FATAH (historically way more violent towards Israel than HAMAS) to oust HAMAS but leads to HAMAS securing control of Gaza and losing the West Bank.

When the Palestinians need an election, and they most certainly do, it's pretty much at Israel's discretion what with all the checkpoints and not bombing that would need adjusting. Intent was notified with the UN recognition of Palestine. Israel will not allow elections and certaily none that involves a unity government, hence this military incursion.

You cannot destroy that mandate militarily with conscience. HAMAS remain popular because when they look over to FATAH controlled West Bank they see another 50 K settler homes since the last election.

 

[Lipush]

Poor little children.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

We care here in America.
Most blame Hamas as well as some in England.
The Liberals blame Israel.
The Conservatives blame Hamas.

And the rest of us blame both sides for perpetuating violence, along with the U.S. government for subsidizing both sides. Hamas does indeed lob missiles at Israel with the intent to create death and destruction, but to imply that Israel is without fault is nonsense. Their indiscriminate attacks on Gaza have killed and maimed mostly innocent civilians, including innocent children, while their blockade has made it so that civilians in Gaza have nowhere to go. You can't just post a video of some potential child-soldiers in Hamas and imply that all the children killed by Israeli strikes are the fault of Hamas.

So should Hamas be held responsible for their actions? Absolutely, but so should the Israeli government.

 

[Daniyel]

We care here in America.
Most blame Hamas as well as some in England.
The Liberals blame Israel.
The Conservatives blame Hamas.

And the rest of us blame both sides for perpetuating violence, along with the U.S. government for subsidizing both sides. Hamas does indeed lob missiles at Israel with the intent to create death and destruction, but to imply that Israel is without fault is nonsense. Their indiscriminate attacks on Gaza have killed and maimed mostly innocent civilians, including innocent children, while their blockade has made it so that civilians in Gaza have nowhere to go. You can't just post a video of some potential child-soldiers in Hamas and imply that all the children killed by Israeli strikes are the fault of Hamas.

So should Hamas be held responsible for their actions? Absolutely, but so should the Israeli government.

The only fault of the Israeli government is not dealing with all the 18 terrorist organizations nesting in Gaza earlier, but better now than never.

 

[Daniyel]

As painful as it is for both sides - Israel considered the responsible adult -

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

We care here in America.
Most blame Hamas as well as some in England.
The Liberals blame Israel.
The Conservatives blame Hamas.

And the rest of us blame both sides for perpetuating violence, along with the U.S. government for subsidizing both sides. Hamas does indeed lob missiles at Israel with the intent to create death and destruction, but to imply that Israel is without fault is nonsense. Their indiscriminate attacks on Gaza have killed and maimed mostly innocent civilians, including innocent children, while their blockade has made it so that civilians in Gaza have nowhere to go. You can't just post a video of some potential child-soldiers in Hamas and imply that all the children killed by Israeli strikes are the fault of Hamas.

So should Hamas be held responsible for their actions? Absolutely, but so should the Israeli government.

The only fault of the Israeli government is not dealing with all the 18 terrorist organizations nesting in Gaza earlier, but better now than never.

Killing innocent civilians doesn't deal with terrorist organizations, it just causes more people to join terrorist organizations.

 

[Indeependent]

And the rest of us blame both sides for perpetuating violence, along with the U.S. government for subsidizing both sides. Hamas does indeed lob missiles at Israel with the intent to create death and destruction, but to imply that Israel is without fault is nonsense. Their indiscriminate attacks on Gaza have killed and maimed mostly innocent civilians, including innocent children, while their blockade has made it so that civilians in Gaza have nowhere to go. You can't just post a video of some potential child-soldiers in Hamas and imply that all the children killed by Israeli strikes are the fault of Hamas.

So should Hamas be held responsible for their actions? Absolutely, but so should the Israeli government.

The only fault of the Israeli government is not dealing with all the 18 terrorist organizations nesting in Gaza earlier, but better now than never.

Killing innocent civilians doesn't deal with terrorist organizations, it just causes more people to join terrorist organizations.

Explain the tunnels.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

The only fault of the Israeli government is not dealing with all the 18 terrorist organizations nesting in Gaza earlier, but better now than never.

Killing innocent civilians doesn't deal with terrorist organizations, it just causes more people to join terrorist organizations.

Explain the tunnels.

What am I meant to explain?

 

[Daniyel]

Killing innocent civilians doesn't deal with terrorist organizations, it just causes more people to join terrorist organizations.

Let me share with you my experience about terror and the Islamic Terror.
Common - > bad tempered person - > Extremist - > Radical
Terror in generally means breaking the law and boundaries by violence in order to achieve political goal, once you surrender to it you just define terror useful, everyone could see that as "possible solution" that motivates the common person to release anger and frustration the same way he would've never do under easier circumstances..(Riot is the fast-lane terror/illegal activity - a legitimate protest can turn into riot within seconds because of one main motivator)
The Islamic Terror in general excuse everything acceptable for the sacred cause - serve the goal of Allah (Jihad) - which encourage even the innocent person to advocate Islamic terror neutrally.
With zero boundaries - people die.
Killing civilians never serve the goal - EXCEPT for he terrorists ONLY.
The American "No negotiating with terrorists" mentality is most efficient but since we are democracy here in little Israel we have no choice but to "negotiate" with terror and legitimize it ourselves.. the Islamic Terrorists in Gaza - are about 19-18 groups, on top there is Hamas, you can pretty much see for yourself how many participating.

 

[Indeependent]

Killing innocent civilians doesn't deal with terrorist organizations, it just causes more people to join terrorist organizations.

Explain the tunnels.

What am I meant to explain?

Other than a sneak attack, why would citizens of Aza SECRETLY be building tunnels under Israel?