What would happen if we stopped treating overdose cases?

BlindBoo said:
Hey you may be onto something. If someone crashes their car while speeding, no treatment!

Maybe we should stop treating smokers for lung cancer?

If you drink alcohol, no liver treatments?
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Your side is all for not treating the unvaxxed.......what's the prob...
 
JGalt said:
Cars, cigarettes, and alcohol aren't schedule I or II items, they don't make criminal cartels a lot of money, and they aren't smuggled illegally across the border.
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Yet they cause many times more deaths than overdoses do. But you want to let those folks die with out treatment. Fuck that. We should be compassionate to our bothers and sisters who we don't agree with who make mistakes, even the unvaxed and those who go maskless. imo.
 
BlindBoo said:
Yet they cause many times more deaths than overdoses do. But you want to let those folks die with out treatment. Fuck that. We should be compassionate to our bothers and sisters who we don't agree with who make mistakes, even the unvaxed and those who go maskless. imo.
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The two leading cases of death in the US in 2021 were heart disease and cancer. Smoking does cause cancer and heart disease but in this day and age, very few people smoke. Drinking can also cause that, but there aren't really that many alcoholics in the US, compared to the overall 320 million population.

The majority of heart disease and cancer is more than likely caused by diet. So would you also suggest that people just don't eat?
 
HenryBHough said:
How can any liberal, in good conscience (ok, assumes facts not in evidence) object to refusal to treat overdoses. The precedent is set with hospitals refusing to treat the unvaccinated.
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Wrong. Numbers of beds put those antivaxxers to go elsewhere when the beds are filled with those vaccinated; those who are less likely to die and/or spend many weeks and months taking up space.
 
BlindBoo said:
Hey you may be onto something. If someone crashes their car while speeding, no treatment!

Maybe we should stop treating smokers for lung cancer?

If you drink alcohol, no liver treatments?
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are you saying healthcare isnt a human right??
 
Rye Catcher said:
Spoken by a Callous Conservative, the set that lacks empathy.
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Akin to the Lousy Liberals who applaud the decision not to provide medical care to those in an ER who have declined to get the COVID vax? That kind of empathy?
 
Dont Taz Me Bro said:
How much money have you paid for other people's overdose treatment? How many volunteer hours have you put in with the homeless and with the addicts at the drug treatment center?
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Q. How much money have you paid for other people's overdose treatment?

A. I don't know. I had a salary working with the schools, social workers and probation officers as well as volunteers.

Q. How many volunteer hours have you put in with the homeless and with the addicts at the drug treatment center?

A. I spent hours working with Probation and Social Services who been arrested and deferred for trial, having been released on 1000 PC (Penal Code).

SEE: PC 1000 - The Drug Diversion Program in California
 
JGalt said:
The two leading cases of death in the US in 2021 were heart disease and cancer. Smoking does cause cancer and heart disease but in this day and age, very few people smoke. Drinking can also cause that, but there aren't really that many alcoholics in the US, compared to the overall 320 million population.

The majority of heart disease and cancer is more than likely caused by diet. So would you also suggest that people just don't eat?
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There you go, another condition the heartless can profit on by denying treatment for. If you live an unhealthy life style and have fatty built up in your arteries, no stints for you......or bypass surgery. Think how much that will save!

Funeral Directors Union 157 approves this message.

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Woodznutz said:
Would it have a chilling effect on the drug using community, knowing that if they overdose there will be no one there to save them (read enable them to continue using drugs)?

Would such a policy actually save lives in the long run? In war casualties are anticipated. Body bags and coffins are part of 'logistics'. Why not the same in the drug war?
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Hospitals shouldn't be turning people away regardless of their situation.
 
martybegan said:
The thing is drug abuse is unlike the above because many of these guys get chances over and over to make the same mistakes, at the cost of the taxpayer, and the law abiding having to deal with their criminality.

To me the only way to theoretically implement would be for it to happen inside "Hotel California" facilities, where basic medical care is offered, but if you OD, you OD.

"You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave"

At least while you are still using.
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Lol, so you die every time you speed in your car then huh. How about ever time ya drink. Plenty of chances at correcting those things also.
 
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