What will low income people do for healthcare if they lose their Obamacare?

[jknowgood]

They will get sick, they will die, and the Alt Right will yell "yay".

Pretty much the way it is with obamacare, $7500 deductible. Pretty much a death sentence for most.

And the Alt Right will be thrilled. Weren't you the one who was yelling Romney would win in a land slide? Now we are watching the GOP stumble and fumble the US straight into a single payer.

Yeap and the democrats own obamacare 100%. I say republicans should let it fail on its own, and finally show the uninformed voters what liberal policies actually accomplish.

 

[2aguy]

They will get sick, they will die, and the Alt Right will yell "yay".

Pretty much the way it is with obamacare, $7500 deductible. Pretty much a death sentence for most.

Yes....obamacare.....healthcare on paper....you have health insurance, you just can't afford to get actual medical treatment...and the left acts as if getting rid of that is horrible....

 

[airplanemechanic]

Democrats define success as a few million poor people acquiring insurance they can't afford to actually use and making wealthy successful people pay for it.

Ahhh, take from the rich and give to the poor. Very classic liberalism.

 

[2aguy]

They'll die, because that's the republican way. They will know kick and scream about a fetus but once the fetus is born, you're on your own. So what if you have cancer and can't afford chemo? Or you need a kidney transplant? Too bad for you.

Yeah....and that isn't true. The "republicans only care about the fetus, and not about the baby...." is what morons like you say to justify killing a baby. Conservatives give far more time and money to charities and helping other people than left wingers do.......they are also the ones adopting babies from China because of the bizarre adoption process here......so shove that crap up you know where...it is a lie......

 

[Penelope]

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Can we point out that every individual in America, whether legal or otherwise, has had healthcare- by federal law- since it was mandated by the most successful President in the last hundred years.

"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to individuals seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay."
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia

Once again, ER Hosp departments are not health care.

health·care
ˈhelTHker/
noun

1. the maintenance and improvement of physical and mental health, especially through the provision of medical services.

Please try to restrict your posts to the English language in the future.

And if you enter the Er and see a Dr. he will treat you and tell you to follow up with your FAMILY DR. ER is not healthcare.

Do you know what maintenance means?????

 

[Penelope]

Democrats define success as a few million poor people acquiring insurance they can't afford to actually use and making wealthy successful people pay for it.

Ahhh, take from the rich and give to the poor. Very classic liberalism.

One needs to work full time at 11 bucks an hour to qualify for the ACA. If that is poor then I guess the Fed wage should be raised from 7.25, right or wrong??

 

[Penelope]

They will get sick, they will die, and the Alt Right will yell "yay".

Pretty much the way it is with obamacare, $7500 deductible. Pretty much a death sentence for most.

Yes....obamacare.....healthcare on paper....you have health insurance, you just can't afford to get actual medical treatment...and the left acts as if getting rid of that is horrible....

Why not, because your state has not expanded Medicaid?

 

[Nia88]

They'll die, because that's the republican way. They will know kick and scream about a fetus but once the fetus is born, you're on your own. So what if you have cancer and can't afford chemo? Or you need a kidney transplant? Too bad for you.

Yeah....and that isn't true. The "republicans only care about the fetus, and not about the baby...." is what morons like you say to justify killing a baby. Conservatives give far more time and money to charities and helping other people than left wingers do.......they are also the ones adopting babies from China because of the bizarre adoption process here......so shove that crap up you know where...it is a lie......

So why not start with giving people affordable or free healthcare? Charity won't help anyone if they're dead.

 

[Penelope]

Considering most of these policies are high deductible low paying policies, not much will change other than "on paper" they might lose their policy. Not that they ever used or benefited from it one time.

If they're that poor, bragging that they have "healthcare" with a 6000 dollar deductible is pretty much like hanging a steak 100 feet over a dog and telling him to eat up. It sounds good on ABC news and CNN, but functionally, it's useless.

Liberals never said they'd give the poor a healthcare policy that they could use, just that they'd have healthcare. The first 6000 is on them, though.

Get a silver plan do not be cheap!! just a tidbit of info for you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here is a suggestion to answer the question.

"The 14194 clinics in this database offer medical services (some may also offer dental services) and are free, low-cost, low-cost with a sliding scale based on income, or offer some type of financial assistance. If you're under or uninsured, and looking for a nearby free clinic, sliding scale clinic, or low-cost clinic, where you and/or your family can go for lost cost medical care, NeedyMeds can help. Please note that the clinics listed are not necessarily free.

For additional information and appointments contact the clinic directly.

For a description of which clinics we include on our website and what type of information we provide on each clinic, visit our Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics page."

Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics | NeedyMeds

Can we point out that every individual in America, whether legal or otherwise, has had healthcare- by federal law- since it was mandated by the most successful President in the last hundred years.

"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to individuals seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay."
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia

Once again, ER Hosp departments are not health care.

health·care
ˈhelTHker/
noun

1. the maintenance and improvement of physical and mental health, especially through the provision of medical services.

Please try to restrict your posts to the English language in the future.

And if you enter the Er and see a Dr. he will treat you and tell you to follow up with your FAMILY DR. ER is not healthcare.

Do you know what maintenance means?????

" ER is not healthcare."

Yeah, it is.

 

[jknowgood]

They will get sick, they will die, and the Alt Right will yell "yay".

Pretty much the way it is with obamacare, $7500 deductible. Pretty much a death sentence for most.

Yes....obamacare.....healthcare on paper....you have health insurance, you just can't afford to get actual medical treatment...and the left acts as if getting rid of that is horrible....

Why not, because your state has not expanded Medicaid?

$7500 deductibles are out of reach for most. So basically you have no insurance.

 

[JakeStarkey]

They will get sick, they will die, and the Alt Right will yell "yay".

Pretty much the way it is with obamacare, $7500 deductible. Pretty much a death sentence for most.

And the Alt Right will be thrilled. Weren't you the one who was yelling Romney would win in a land slide? Now we are watching the GOP stumble and fumble the US straight into a single payer.

Yeap and the democrats own obamacare 100%. I say republicans should let it fail on its own, and finally show the uninformed voters what liberal policies actually accomplish.

The GOP will fail, of course, and move us ever closer to single payer.

 

[2aguy]

They'll die, because that's the republican way. They will know kick and scream about a fetus but once the fetus is born, you're on your own. So what if you have cancer and can't afford chemo? Or you need a kidney transplant? Too bad for you.

Yeah....and that isn't true. The "republicans only care about the fetus, and not about the baby...." is what morons like you say to justify killing a baby. Conservatives give far more time and money to charities and helping other people than left wingers do.......they are also the ones adopting babies from China because of the bizarre adoption process here......so shove that crap up you know where...it is a lie......

So why not start with giving people affordable or free healthcare? Charity won't help anyone if they're dead.

It isn't the government's job, for one thing.....and if the government is involved then the cost and the quality go down....all of the social welfare states around the world, their healthcare systems are collapsing.....all of them.....

If you want affordable healthcare you need to allow competition and allow people to buy their own...if the government gets involved you get obamacare......premiums they can't afford, with deductibles that mean they can't get actual health care......

You can't give some people healthcare without taking money from other people......create competition and like cell phones, everyone will have health care they can afford......

 

[JakeStarkey]

Here is a suggestion to answer the question.

"The 14194 clinics in this database offer medical services (some may also offer dental services) and are free, low-cost, low-cost with a sliding scale based on income, or offer some type of financial assistance. If you're under or uninsured, and looking for a nearby free clinic, sliding scale clinic, or low-cost clinic, where you and/or your family can go for lost cost medical care, NeedyMeds can help. Please note that the clinics listed are not necessarily free.

For additional information and appointments contact the clinic directly.

For a description of which clinics we include on our website and what type of information we provide on each clinic, visit our Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics page."

Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics | NeedyMeds

Can we point out that every individual in America, whether legal or otherwise, has had healthcare- by federal law- since it was mandated by the most successful President in the last hundred years.

"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to individuals seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay."
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia

Once again, ER Hosp departments are not health care.

health·care
ˈhelTHker/
noun

1. the maintenance and improvement of physical and mental health, especially through the provision of medical services.

Please try to restrict your posts to the English language in the future.

And if you enter the Er and see a Dr. he will treat you and tell you to follow up with your FAMILY DR. ER is not healthcare.

Do you know what maintenance means?????

" ER is not healthcare."

Yeah, it is.

Only the most expensive kind on a fly.

 

[jknowgood]

They will get sick, they will die, and the Alt Right will yell "yay".

Pretty much the way it is with obamacare, $7500 deductible. Pretty much a death sentence for most.

And the Alt Right will be thrilled. Weren't you the one who was yelling Romney would win in a land slide? Now we are watching the GOP stumble and fumble the US straight into a single payer.

Yeap and the democrats own obamacare 100%. I say republicans should let it fail on its own, and finally show the uninformed voters what liberal policies actually accomplish.

The GOP will fail, of course, and move us ever closer to single payer.

Probably so, since a few of them want Trump to fail. Hope not, but we will see.

 

[2aguy]

They'll die, because that's the republican way. They will know kick and scream about a fetus but once the fetus is born, you're on your own. So what if you have cancer and can't afford chemo? Or you need a kidney transplant? Too bad for you.

Yeah....and that isn't true. The "republicans only care about the fetus, and not about the baby...." is what morons like you say to justify killing a baby. Conservatives give far more time and money to charities and helping other people than left wingers do.......they are also the ones adopting babies from China because of the bizarre adoption process here......so shove that crap up you know where...it is a lie......

So why not start with giving people affordable or free healthcare? Charity won't help anyone if they're dead.

As JK points out....how is a 7,500 dollar deductible, medical care? How are premiums that poor people can't afford without hand outs healthcare? that is what happens when the government gets in the way....

 

[Penelope]

For you who decide you hate the mandate, get sick: Get health insurance and keep it or spend 30% more, ha ha. By then it will be so high, why because only the sick will have insurance. Idiots.

One way to stop this spiral to market collapse is a mandate that keeps healthy people in the insurance pool. The mandate in Obamacare wasn’t strong enough, and too many relatively healthy (and often young) people went without insurance. The mandate in the Republican proposal is even weaker and actually creates an incentive to go without insurance. The penalty for going without insurance does not occur until you sign up for insurance after a lapse, so the rational thing to do is to wait as long as possible before getting insurance. It’s hard to see how this will work.

The presence of insurance companies in the health services market creates another problem. It means people are going to have their choices – what will be paid for, the type of care, etc. – determined by insurance companies and the policies they offer. Unlike most other goods, you can’t choose whatever health care treatment you want. The insurance company must approve it, and insurance companies will deny payment whenever possible. They have whole staffs devoted to finding reasons to deny payment, so some type of regulatory oversight is needed to ensure consumers get the care they were promised.

Analysis: Why the Republican health care plan is destined to fail

Trump is on TV now saying the neg effects from the ACA wont be noticeable till 2019, what a dimwit.

 

[2aguy]

They will get sick, they will die, and the Alt Right will yell "yay".

Pretty much the way it is with obamacare, $7500 deductible. Pretty much a death sentence for most.

Yes....obamacare.....healthcare on paper....you have health insurance, you just can't afford to get actual medical treatment...and the left acts as if getting rid of that is horrible....

Why not, because your state has not expanded Medicaid?

Medicaid is the worst delivery system for healthcare...the government tells doctors they won't pay the whole bill....and then doctors stop taking those patients....government in action again....

 

[2aguy]

For you who decide you hate the mandate, get sick: Get health insurance and keep it or spend 30% more, ha ha.

One way to stop this spiral to market collapse is a mandate that keeps healthy people in the insurance pool. The mandate in Obamacare wasn’t strong enough, and too many relatively healthy (and often young) people went without insurance. The mandate in the Republican proposal is even weaker and actually creates an incentive to go without insurance. The penalty for going without insurance does not occur until you sign up for insurance after a lapse, so the rational thing to do is to wait as long as possible before getting insurance. It’s hard to see how this will work.

The presence of insurance companies in the health services market creates another problem. It means people are going to have their choices – what will be paid for, the type of care, etc. – determined by insurance companies and the policies they offer. Unlike most other goods, you can’t choose whatever health care treatment you want. The insurance company must approve it, and insurance companies will deny payment whenever possible. They have whole staffs devoted to finding reasons to deny payment, so some type of regulatory oversight is needed to ensure consumers get the care they were promised.

Analysis: Why the Republican health care plan is destined to fail

Trump is on TV now saying the neg effects from the ACA wont be noticeable till 2019, what a dimwit.

Yes....force people to buy it........that is a good fascist for you....and if they don't buy it...lock them up.....in healthcare prisons......that is where it always goes with you lefties....

There should be no mandate.......then insurance companies will have to structure plans people can afford.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And that, amigos, is why we will have single payer before all that long.