What will be considered a success for the Trump - Putin meeting on Friday.

[struth]

Trump announced no security guarantees, prior to the meeting. Now thats how you make a deal.

No new ones we already gave them one with the min deal

 

[Zincwarrior]

No new ones we already gave them one with the min deal

No we literally didn't.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

They care about peace and international stability.

They are not invested in your petty parochial tribal politics.

You are either a Russian troll, or a useful idiot for Putin.

There is no other choice.

Putin is better than democrats

 

[Zincwarrior]

Putin is better than democrats

Putin is literally murdering women and children and torturing POWs. You are a sick puppy. You have a bright MAGA future.

 

[struth]

No we literally didn't.

Geez dembot, what do you think a security agreement is?

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/30/ukraine-minerals-deal-signing

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Putin is literally murdering women and children and torturing POWs. You are a sick puppy. You have a bright MAGA future.

True. Putin is murdering women and children. He does that and he's STILL better than democrats.

 

[struth]

True. Putin is murdering women and children. He does that and he's STILL better than democrats.

Actually dems encourage it, they don’t want him to stop

They don’t want the war to end

 

[ElmerMudd]

Russia was part of the allies during WW2...and neither they, nor Germany had a nuclear weapon....one of those isn't true today

So countries with nuclear weapons can invade any non-nuclear country they want and that country better give up right away.

 

[struth]

So countries with nuclear weapons can invade any non-nuclear country they want and that country better give up right away.

Nope….as this case proves . Ukraine clearly didn’t give up right away…nor should they

But we also shouldn’t engage in ww3

But this is what you demafasict want, WW3

 

[ElmerMudd]

Nope….as this case proves . Ukraine clearly didn’t give up right away…nor should they

But we also shouldn’t engage in ww3

But this is what you demafasict want, WW3

Every man, woman, child and country is on their own.

The countries that assisted the US after 9/11 should not have engaged Afghanistan and Iraq. That was not their fight.

The French were idiots to help in the American Revolution.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Actually dems encourage it, they don’t want him to stop

They don’t want the war to end

As long as Zelensky is kicking back, democrats want the war to continue.

 

[TimFitz]

It’s not a game..the question presented is what do we get out of the meeting, I answered, you claimed everyone already knew what he wanted, and then when asked what that was, gave two different answers, undermining your claim

Here’s the reality, you are a dumb dembot

And you are trying to knock down your own straw man argument.

Putin, as you know, wants all of Ukraine. If he can’t get that Friday, he will tell Trump to bully Ukraine into a huge territory sacrifice, demilitarization, and generally set up the conditions for the Russians to walk right in in the next three years (awhile Trump is still in the White House.

Either way, Putin gets what he wants, and your beloved fuhrer betrays everything America is supposed to stand for in order to deliver for Putin.

Trump can stand up to Putin on Friday. History and Trump’s kowtowing suggests that he will cower before the Russian dictator, as he has for the last decade.

And you are cheering for the Americanbetrayal of NATO and Ukraine.

The final betrayal of the legacy of world leadership that my father fought for in WWII.

 

[TimFitz]

As long as Zelensky is kicking back, democrats want the war to continue.

You are only talking to yourself with this useful idiot act.

 

[initforme]

A ceasefire would be great no land concessions.

 

[TimFitz]

Nope….as this case proves . Ukraine clearly didn’t give up right away…nor should they

But we also shouldn’t engage in ww3

But this is what you demafasict want, WW3

Useful idiot or Russian troll? Which one are you.

 

[struth]

Useful idiot or Russian troll? Which one are you.

Projection

 

[JimH52]

What will be considered a success for the Trump - Putin meeting on Friday.
Obviously an end to the war would be the ultimate. I don't expect anyone feels that will happen.
An immediate cease fire?
A reduction of warfare killing innocent civilians?
Putin committing to a meeting with Zelensky?

In my opinion, if Trump comes back and reiterates Putin wants Crimea and Donbas as a condition to end the war, it will be a total failure.
Another example of Putin playing Trump. Trump has threatened to do many things unless Russia backs off killing civilians and agrees to peace talks. Trump has done nothing. Putin has never felt more emboldened.

For the sake of the Ukranian people, I hope I am wrong.

Is they are both jailed.

 

[JimH52]

Everybody does know, Biden knew, the EU knew and they still know, Russia criteria haven't changed.

All US presidents act the same way with foreign policy, there's no difference between Democrat or Republican, ask a Vietnamese or an Iraqi or a Palestinian or Iranian.

Trump's been told over and over what the Russian's want, if it hasn't sunk in yet then that's because trump is a dummy.

Cease all weapons to Ukraine and the war will stop in a few weeks, how can we stop a war while facilitating it at the same time?

Of course Raytheon and General Dynamics et-al don't want that, and trump does as he's told by the defense contractors, gotta keep US manufacturers busy!

No, trump is different. He is not this stupid. He is waiting until his pal Vlad takes enough of Ukraine and, once Poootin gives him the go ahead, he will push for a cease fire. Trump is a TRAITOR.