What will be considered a success for the Trump - Putin meeting on Friday.

[EvilCat Breath]

The media continue to provide proof that fake news is alive and doing extremely well.

I literally cannot stand them any longer. Everything democrats do or say is disgusting.

 

[Invisibleflash]

USA / NATO agrees that Ukraine can never being a member of NATO.
Russia keeps the Russian speaking territory.
Denazification.
NATO agrees to stop fighting Russia though its proxy Ukraine.
Sanctions removed.
USA returns $300 Billion stolen from Russia, as well as any assets stolen from Russia. Along with back %.
Ukraine is disarmed of weapons used to attack Russia.
USA / NATO signs an agreement stating this.

EDIT:

Forgot to add...

USA / NATO must implement all parts of the agreement before Russia stops the fighting.

 

[schmidlap]

What will be considered a success for the Trump - Putin meeting on Friday.
Obviously an end to the war would be the ultimate. I don't expect anyone feels that will happen.
An immediate cease fire?
A reduction of warfare killing innocent civilians?
Putin committing to a meeting with Zelensky?

In my opinion, if Trump comes back and reiterates Putin wants Crimea and Donbas as a condition to end the war, it will be a total failure.
Another example of Putin playing Trump. Trump has threatened to do many things unless Russia backs off killing civilians and agrees to peace talks. Trump has done nothing. Putin has never felt more emboldened.

For the sake of the Ukranian people, I hope I am wrong.

I would have said that standing firm with fellow NATO democracies in demanding that Putin withdraw all of his and North Korean invaders from the sovereign nation, but we might have to settle for the addled, old geezer not ceding a US state to Russia:

‘I’m going to Russia on Friday’: Trump appears to forget Alaska is in US​

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Did mama make you take out the trash last night and now you're pissed?

We really need to start putting the democrats involved in the Russian hoax in prison. With Hillary and shitstain obama behind bars this will die down.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I would have said that standing firm with fellow NATO democracies in demanding that Putin withdraw all of his and North Korean invaders from the sovereign nation, but we might have to settle for the addled, old geezer not ceding a US state to Russia:

‘I’m going to Russia on Friday’: Trump appears to forget Alaska is in US​

It's almost like shitstain obama claiming to have visited 57 states.

 

[TimFitz]

The entire planet knows that democrats are deranged.

The plant does not care about domestic American party politics.

Making that claim just demonstrates how parochial you are.

 

[TimFitz]

Democrats have spoken.
Putin is much better than democrats. He is more honest and trustworthy. The world knows it.

Useful idiot or Russian troll.

You’re either one or the other.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The plant does not care about domestic American party politics.

Making that claim just demonstrates how parochial you are.

Pray what does the plant care about. Is this a Little Shop of Horrors plant or a Day of the Triffids plant?

Democrats are rapidly becoming an insignificant footnote in history.

 

[MayorQuimby]

We really need to start putting the democrats involved in the Russian hoax in prison. With Hillary and shitstain obama behind bars this will die down.

Not only that, we also need to ask ourselves what was so wrong with our system that people like HRC and Obama could have risen to such high places in the first place. The problem is much bigger than we think, it will take more than putting a few crooks in jail, to really fix anything. The way I see it, the system is set up in such a way that bad, immoral people will always rise to the top, and good, honest people will always get pushed out.

 

[struth]

He wants all of it.

he will settle for parts for the time being while he rebuilds and plots to take the rest.

The scenario is exactly like the Czech crisis of 1938, with your fuhrer in the Chamberlain role.

Hitler occupied all of Czeloslovakiia less than a year after the Munich sellout.

Putin intends to try and do the same thing.

Of course, you know this already.

You’re just playing childish Trumpster (Russian troll) games.

Ok if he wants it all then why did you claim two different things? You seem confused

 

[TimFitz]

USA / NATO agrees that Ukraine can never being a member of NATO.
Russia keeps the Russian speaking territory.
Denazification.
NATO agrees to stop fighting Russia though its proxy Ukraine.
Sanctions removed.
USA returns $300 Billion stolen from Russia, as well as any assets stolen from Russia. Along with back %.
Ukraine is disarmed of weapons used to attack Russia.
USA / NATO signs an agreement stating this.

EDIT:

Forgot to add...

USA / NATO must implement all parts of the agreement before Russia stops the fighting.

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The straight Kremlin line,

Trump capitulates. Russia invades again befor Trump leaves office.

Trump enables them by doing nothing.

Hitler’s plan for pushing Chamberlain around in Czechoslovakia as re imagined by Donald Trump.

And you’re betraying your own country by cheering for it.

 

[TimFitz]

Ok if he wants it all then why did you claim two different things? You seem confused

I’m not going to play your stupid little games.

Putin wants all of Ukraine.

If he can’t get it now, he’ll settle for parts of it while he rebuilds for a new invasion.

It is EXACTLY what Hitler did in 1938 and 1939.

Putin intends to play Trump into bullying Ukraine into “peace in our time”, and then invade Ukraine again befor Trump leaves office.

You know this.

Russian troll or useful idiot. You’re one or the other.

Own your disgrace.

 

[TimFitz]

Pray what does the plant care about. Is this a Little Shop of Horrors plant or a Day of the Triffids plant?

Democrats are rapidly becoming an insignificant footnote in history.

They care about peace and international stability.

They are not invested in your petty parochial tribal politics.

You are either a Russian troll, or a useful idiot for Putin.

There is no other choice.

 

[struth]

I’m not going to play your stupid little games.

Putin wants all of Ukraine.

If he can’t get it now, he’ll settle for parts of it while he rebuilds for a new invasion.

It is EXACTLY what Hitler did in 1938 and 1939.

Putin intends to play Trump into bullying Ukraine into “peace in our time”, and then invade Ukraine again befor Trump leaves office.

You know this.

Russian troll or useful idiot. You’re one or the other.

Own your disgrace.

It’s not a game..the question presented is what do we get out of the meeting, I answered, you claimed everyone already knew what he wanted, and then when asked what that was, gave two different answers, undermining your claim

Here’s the reality, you are a dumb dembot

 

[ElmerMudd]

If the west did not get involved the war would have ended long ago.

Yes, with Russia taking over Ukraine and eyeing the next country to take over if the west does nothing.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Yes, with Russia taking over Ukraine and eyeing the next country to take over if the west does nothing.

"The Nazis are trying to take over ___, so we must go to war with them"

"The communists are trying to take over ___, so we must go to war with them"

"The whoever is trying to take over ___, so we must go to war with them"

Somehow I get the feeling that I have heard of this rationale a lot.

 

[ElmerMudd]

"The Nazis are trying to take over ___, so we must go to war with them"

"The communists are trying to take over ___, so we must go to war with them"

"The whoever is trying to take over ___, so we must go to war with them"

Somehow I get the feeling that I have heard of this rationale a lot.

Do you think joining the allies in WWII was a mistake.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

MacGregor not too hopeful about the summit, “monkeys at the opera”

 

[struth]

Do you think joining the allies in WWII was a mistake.

Russia was part of the allies during WW2...and neither they, nor Germany had a nuclear weapon....one of those isn't true today

 

[Zincwarrior]

Trump announced no security guarantees, prior to the meeting. Now thats how you make a deal.