What we have here is a failure.........

[Seymour Flops]

Too bad ICE was not surrounded by violent protesters. They could have given first aid while waiting for the medical responders. Might have saved her life, but we'll never know now.

 

[XponentialChaos]

American citizens despised by the left for doing their jobs ..

Does their job include unnecessarily shooting American citizens and denying them immediate medical attention?

 

[Flopper]

Dude, police don't give access to people needing medical assistance after committing a crime to some random guy who claims to be a doctor. You know that.

You're not this dumb, this is play-acting.

Also, I have seen CHL several times and I don't remember that scene of a doctor being turned away. Did you read this somewhere?

Oh, yeah. People Magazine.

Doctors will almost always carry some form of identification that identifies the clinic or hospital they are associated with. For whatever reason, ICE turned this doctor down and did nothing but watch her die. ICE agents are not hampered by laws, rules and regulations. I can't image a local law enforcement officer refusing to allow a doctor on the scene to deliver life saving care or at least first aid to a serious injured person.

Unlike other law enforcement officers, ICE agents don't save lives but they do destroy them.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Doctors will almost always carry some form of identification that identifies the clinic or hospital they are associated with. For whatever reason, ICE turned this doctor down and did nothing but watch her die. ICE agents are not hampered by laws, rules and regulations. I can't image a local law enforcement officer refusing to allow a doctor on the scene to deliver life saving care or at least first aid to a serious injured person.

Unlike other law enforcement officers, ICE agents don't save lives but they do destroy them.

Yeah, did you see the doctor show some form of identification?

No, he did not. Even if he did, law enforcement do not allow civilian doctors into crime scenes, that is absurd. Just because he is "a physician" doesn't mean he knows emergency medicine better than an EMT.

 

[BrokeLoser]

i did.

i also said he loves the poorly educated long time.

that would be you & yours.

thanx for proving my point.

How do the poorly educated always out-earn the uber intelligent homosexual purple hair freaks?

 

[BrokeLoser]

I condemned it.

You didn’t like the idea of protecting good real core Americans in NYC from street savages?

"Show me your papers and stand over here while I frisk you is indeed a loss of freedoms.

Are speed limits a loss of freedom? Are the people driving over the limit ruining your freedom for you? Do you think you should be allowed to drive 100 mph?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Four points, two of which I have not seen on this thread yet:

1) No way to know whether that guy was a "physician" or not. Who is more likely to be on scene at a protest against ICE? A well-meaning doctor who had no particular political axe to grind and only wanted to be of any help he could, or a wee-wee'd up anti-Trumper willing to say anything if he could get closer to a "victim" of ICE and get a picture of her bleeding face?

2) The body in the vehicle was evidence. Police never let a random passer-by go handle evidence. If lefties are so hot for this officer to be punished for defending himelf, they should be glad that no tampering of evidence was allowed. The officer's defense attorney's would have had a field day with that.

3) The so-called "doctor" had no medical equipment and - as far as we know - no training in emergency care. Having attended medical school XX years ago and then practiced family medicine for twenty years does not qualify him to do anything but take her pulse to verify she was dead. Which, in fairness, was all he offered to do.

4) The OP is smarter than most Dems, i.e. at least smart enough to be embarassed by his Party. But he is not nearly as clever as he thinks he is. By this point, he should have abandoned this thread with apologies. When I make a thread and it turns out to be debunked, I admit it. Can this OP do the same?

 

[beagle9]

I've already shared my thoughts on the illegal immigration issue... so many times. What you don't seem to get (or maybe you just don't care) is that illegal immigration is the issue being used to roll out tyranny.

And it's by design. I've been over this so many times. It's called Problem - Reaction -Solution. They create the problem, to bring about a reaction from the public, and then they bring in the "solution." And the solution is ALWAYS more authoritarianism, and unAmerican Orwellian agendas. And that's happening but you either don't see it or you don't care.

You will care eventually, but when it's too late.

Stop gaslighting please...

 

[beagle9]

Doctors will almost always carry some form of identification that identifies the clinic or hospital they are associated with. For whatever reason, ICE turned this doctor down and did nothing but watch her die. ICE agents are not hampered by laws, rules and regulations. I can't image a local law enforcement officer refusing to allow a doctor on the scene to deliver life saving care or at least first aid to a serious injured person.

Unlike other law enforcement officers, ICE agents don't save lives but they do destroy them.

What's this, yet another BS narrative because the other one's have dramatically failed ???

 

[pknopp]

Four points, two of which I have not seen on this thread yet:

1) No way to know whether that guy was a "physician" or not. Who is more likely to be on scene at a protest against ICE? A well-meaning doctor who had no particular political axe to grind and only wanted to be of any help he could, or a wee-wee'd up anti-Trumper willing to say anything if he could get closer to a "victim" of ICE and get a picture of her bleeding face?

2) The body in the vehicle was evidence. Police never let a random passer-by go handle evidence. If lefties are so hot for this officer to be punished for defending himelf, they should be glad that no tampering of evidence was allowed. The officer's defense attorney's would have had a field day with that.

3) The so-called "doctor" had no medical equipment and - as far as we know - no training in emergency care. Having attended medical school XX years ago and then practiced family medicine for twenty years does not qualify him to do anything but take her pulse to verify she was dead. Which, in fairness, was all he offered to do.

4) The OP is smarter than most Dems, i.e. at least smart enough to be embarassed by his Party. But he is not nearly as clever as he thinks he is. By this point, he should have abandoned this thread with apologies. When I make a thread and it turns out to be debunked, I admit it. Can this OP do the same?

You debunked nothing quite like your Democrat brethren.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You debunked nothing quite like your Democrat brethren.

That's really the best response the DNC could come up with to tell you to say?

 

[buttercup]

Stop gaslighting please...

Please point out what I said that you think is false. Thank you.

 

[beagle9]

Please point out what I said that you think is false. Thank you.

Your entire premise is false because you are accusing other's of what your party does.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Your entire premise is false because you are accusing other's of what your party does.

.

Confession through projection.

.

 

[buttercup]

Your entire premise is false because you are accusing other's of what your party does.

Be specific. What did I say that was false? And I don't have a party. I hate both parties. I'm especially against leftism, but unlike you folk I don't look at everything through a partisan lens. So try again, and don't assume. You know what they say about people who assume. (Btw, you must have a short memory, because I've had this conversation with you before.)

 

[Lumpy 1]

Does their job include unnecessarily shooting American citizens and denying them immediate medical attention?

Just the stupid ones that threaten law enforcement and attempt to flee the scene of their crime. If your shot twice in the upper body at a short distance your likely bleeding out and dead fairly quickly, there is no saving.

 

[Rawley]

I wouldn't have expected anything different.

And a new MAGA hero is born.

LOL "I'm an Anti-Ice activist, let me go contaminate the evidence"

 

[XponentialChaos]

Just the stupid ones that threaten law enforcement and attempt to flee the seen of their crime. If your shot twice in the upper body at a short distance your likely bleeding out and dead fairly quickly, there is no saving.

How about letting the doctors make that determination instead of these incompetent morons who shouldn’t have shot her in the first place? What a crazy concept.

 

[Rawley]

How many big fat strawmen can one fit into one paragraph? I think you set a new record.

PS: You're being a useful dupe for the globalists, and helping them take us toward a technocratic police state. You still haven't figured that out yet.

?? How is it "globalist" to want unvetted illegals removed from our country?

 

[buttercup]

?? How is it "globalist" to want unvetted illegals removed from our country?

That's not what I said is globalist. I'm strongly anti-illegal immigration. What is globalist is the tactic of using a particular issue as a pretext to bring about unAmerican, authoritarian globalist agendas. I explained all of this in a lengthy post, earlier on this thread. I don't want to have to scroll through the whole thread to find the exact post #, but I'll do that if necessary. So I don't have to re-write it all.