What the US can learn from New Zealand political discourse

[citygator]

There is nothing as corrosive and damaging to the American political discourse as the right wing alternative facts machine.

“When you look at the numbers, New Zealanders have essentially been satisfied with their government since 1999,” said Stephen Mills, the head of UMR, Labour’s polling firm. That period had spanned two Labour and two centre-right National prime ministers – including Ardern – all of whom had led fairly moderate governments.

“A huge reason that our politics is not so extremely polarised and so far out there is because we no longer have Murdoch-owned press in New Zealand, and it’s never taken a foothold,” said David Cormack, the co-founder of a public relations firm and a former head of policy and communications for the left-leaning Green party.

Why New Zealand rejected populist ideas other nations have embraced

Democrats: You're a racist! You're a Nazi! You're a misogynist! You hate gays! You hate immigrants! You love the rich! You love corporations! You hate the poor!

citygator: Huh, there's nothing more corrosive and damaging than ... Republicans

Fuck wad

You proved my point. It’s hard to make me look even smarter since I’ve topped out on the evolutionary ladder pretty high so I thank you sir.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

OP should quit teasing us and hurry up and move over there.

 

[kaz]

There is nothing as corrosive and damaging to the American political discourse as the right wing alternative facts machine.

“When you look at the numbers, New Zealanders have essentially been satisfied with their government since 1999,” said Stephen Mills, the head of UMR, Labour’s polling firm. That period had spanned two Labour and two centre-right National prime ministers – including Ardern – all of whom had led fairly moderate governments.

“A huge reason that our politics is not so extremely polarised and so far out there is because we no longer have Murdoch-owned press in New Zealand, and it’s never taken a foothold,” said David Cormack, the co-founder of a public relations firm and a former head of policy and communications for the left-leaning Green party.

Why New Zealand rejected populist ideas other nations have embraced

Democrats: You're a racist! You're a Nazi! You're a misogynist! You hate gays! You hate immigrants! You love the rich! You love corporations! You hate the poor!

citygator: Huh, there's nothing more corrosive and damaging than ... Republicans

Fuck wad

You proved my point. It’s hard to make me look even smarter since I’ve topped out on the evolutionary ladder pretty high so I thank you sir.

You didn't address anything I said, moron

 

[easyt65]

There is nothing as corrosive and damaging to the American political discourse as the right wing alternative facts machine.

“When you look at the numbers, New Zealanders have essentially been satisfied with their government since 1999,” said Stephen Mills, the head of UMR, Labour’s polling firm. That period had spanned two Labour and two centre-right National prime ministers – including Ardern – all of whom had led fairly moderate governments.

“A huge reason that our politics is not so extremely polarised and so far out there is because we no longer have Murdoch-owned press in New Zealand, and it’s never taken a foothold,” said David Cormack, the co-founder of a public relations firm and a former head of policy and communications for the left-leaning Green party.

Why New Zealand rejected populist ideas other nations have embraced

The vast majority of media in this country is now far left extremist fake news media sources who have been caught so regularly reporting Socialist Democrat propaganda, lies, and defense of Democrat crimes and treason while censoring / blacking out real news stories, govt reports, and events that the American people are only shocked now when they report something factually.

We have a treasonous enemy of the state-run/controlled media that was proven to have been complicit in the NUMEROUS continued political coup attempts against the Government of the United states and its president, that sought to assist in stripping the American people of their chosen President.

We have a media that has been proven complicit in protecting a 2016 Democrat candidate that even the Director of the FBI declared had broken laws, just so that candidate who deserved to be in prison on election day instead of a ballot could continue to run and have a chance to win a rigged election...which she could not.

That same criminal media today is protecting a KNOWN / PROVEN criminal candidate who - on top of being an old, white, elitist, self-enriching, racist, child-sniffing/fondling, pu$$y-grabbing, coup-participating, confessed extorting, dementia-suffering mentally incompetent politician who has never done anything in his 47 years as a politician - has now been exposed as being the leader / point-man for the Biden Crime family that has sold Influence around the world - to criminal Ukrainians known for working with Putin, Russians, Kurdistan, Chinese, extorted foreign leaders, sold out and betrayed this nation to Russia and China, laundered money for Russian Oligarchs, and engaged in / facilitated child porn and pedophilia.

We have the 3 Big Tech social media companies engaging in Communist China Information Control policies to Censor / black out legitimate media stories, government reports / evidence, and any and all news / reports / discussions / opinions that go against Democrats, their agenda, and their ideology, not to mention threaten to hurt Joe Biden.

We have a Debate Commission stacked with Trump-Hating Socialist/Communist/Soros-connected members run by a man directly connected to Soros and the Chinese communists doing everything they can to pick topics the President is 'vulnerable' to, that avoid his strengths and HOISTORIC, record-setting success, and that stay completely away from the unfolding evidence of Joe Biden and his family's crimes and treason.....


....but our problem is that we have Murdoch-owned/connected media?

WTF?!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There is nothing as corrosive and damaging to the American political discourse as the right wing alternative facts machine.

“When you look at the numbers, New Zealanders have essentially been satisfied with their government since 1999,” said Stephen Mills, the head of UMR, Labour’s polling firm. That period had spanned two Labour and two centre-right National prime ministers – including Ardern – all of whom had led fairly moderate governments.

“A huge reason that our politics is not so extremely polarised and so far out there is because we no longer have Murdoch-owned press in New Zealand, and it’s never taken a foothold,” said David Cormack, the co-founder of a public relations firm and a former head of policy and communications for the left-leaning Green party.

Why New Zealand rejected populist ideas other nations have embraced

Did anyone run on "fundamentally transforming" New Zealand?

 

[Votto]

There is nothing as corrosive and damaging to the American political discourse as the right wing alternative facts machine.

“When you look at the numbers, New Zealanders have essentially been satisfied with their gove

?

Freedom of speech is a real bitch, ain't it.

I reckon you hate the Bill of Rights, or is it just the first two amendments of free speech and the right to bear arms?

 

[Votto]

There is nothing as corrosive and damaging to the American political discourse as the right wing alternative facts machine.

“When you look at the numbers, New Zealanders have essentially been satisfied with their government since 1999,” said Stephen Mills, the head of UMR, Labour’s polling firm. That period had spanned two Labour and two centre-right National prime ministers – including Ardern – all of whom had led fairly moderate governments.

“A huge reason that our politics is not so extremely polarised and so far out there is because we no longer have Murdoch-owned press in New Zealand, and it’s never taken a foothold,” said David Cormack, the co-founder of a public relations firm and a former head of policy and communications for the left-leaning Green party.

Why New Zealand rejected populist ideas other nations have embraced

Did anyone run on "fundamentally transforming" New Zealand?

What's to change?

Just a bunch of sheep raping Lefties who are all just sheep themselves

 

[Norman]

There is nothing as corrosive and damaging to the American political discourse as the right wing alternative facts machine.

“When you look at the numbers, New Zealanders have essentially been satisfied with their government since 1999,” said Stephen Mills, the head of UMR, Labour’s polling firm. That period had spanned two Labour and two centre-right National prime ministers – including Ardern – all of whom had led fairly moderate governments.

“A huge reason that our politics is not so extremely polarised and so far out there is because we no longer have Murdoch-owned press in New Zealand, and it’s never taken a foothold,” said David Cormack, the co-founder of a public relations firm and a former head of policy and communications for the left-leaning Green party.

Why New Zealand rejected populist ideas other nations have embraced

Did anyone run on "fundamentally transforming" New Zealand?

I say we transform it.

Send all the losers like citygator in. It will look worse than UK as a prison island shortly.

 

[xband]

There is nothing as corrosive and damaging to the American political discourse as the right wing alternative facts machine.

“When you look at the numbers, New Zealanders have essentially been satisfied with their government since 1999,” said Stephen Mills, the head of UMR, Labour’s polling firm. That period had spanned two Labour and two centre-right National prime ministers – including Ardern – all of whom had led fairly moderate governments.

“A huge reason that our politics is not so extremely polarised and so far out there is because we no longer have Murdoch-owned press in New Zealand, and it’s never taken a foothold,” said David Cormack, the co-founder of a public relations firm and a former head of policy and communications for the left-leaning Green party.

Why New Zealand rejected populist ideas other nations have embraced

Did anyone run on "fundamentally transforming" New Zealand?

What's to change?

Just a bunch of sheep raping Lefties who are all just sheep themselves

Why do sheep farmers wear hip boots?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

This sounds like another reptile who posted here who claimed he was a devout libertarian but always slid into bed with the libs. Kinda like Starkey.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

When did New Zealand become a world power?

 

[zaangalewa]

When did New Zealand become a world power?

The people of New Zealand are welcome everywhere - not so US-Americans.

 

[gipper]

There is nothing as corrosive and damaging to the American political discourse as the right wing alternative facts machine.

“When you look at the numbers, New Zealanders have essentially been satisfied with their government since 1999,” said Stephen Mills, the head of UMR, Labour’s polling firm. That period had spanned two Labour and two centre-right National prime ministers – including Ardern – all of whom had led fairly moderate governments.

“A huge reason that our politics is not so extremely polarised and so far out there is because we no longer have Murdoch-owned press in New Zealand, and it’s never taken a foothold,” said David Cormack, the co-founder of a public relations firm and a former head of policy and communications for the left-leaning Green party.

Why New Zealand rejected populist ideas other nations have embraced

What about the much larger left wing alternative facts machine?

 

[xband]

When did New Zealand become a world power?

The people of New Zealand are welcome everywhere - not so US-Americans.

The Ugly American did it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Is one side pulling down statues?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

When did New Zealand become a world power?

The people of New Zealand are welcome everywhere - not so US-Americans.

I'm quite content in the USA

 

[theHawk]

New Zealand is also 70% white European decent and 30% Asian. Zero percent t blacks. Kind of amazing how much a difference that makes in crime rates and overall happiness of the people. But if they embrace open borders and mass immigration from shit hole countries, you’ll see their “happiness” dwindle.

You should delete this. And get some help.

I find it funny you praise these countries without acknowledging the demographic differences.

 

[TheParser]

Yes, as other posters had the guts to say (I was too cowardly to be the first), New Zealand is a harmonious country because of its population profile.

I hope they can keep it.

 

[Harry Dresden]

So far you dummies are suggesting there is nothing to learn from other places. Stop eating your Italian and Chinese food cuz it was designed somewhere else!

It’s very clear that the disinformation embraced from the right is complicating a free and open society. I’m not an advocate of shutting down a free press but there should be easier legal remedies for the lies propagated by the filthy right.

and of course the left is just full of wonderful honest people....right gator?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

When did New Zealand become a world power?

The people of New Zealand are welcome everywhere - not so US-Americans.

yea until you need our money or troops....