What the Palestinian Authority Thinks Concerning a Palestinians State in the WB

[toastman]

Tinmore gets his maps from Palestinian Embassy


That's a map of Israel



Show me a current map of Palestine

 

[toastman]

Palestine has no current borders. You have yet to prove otherwise

 

[P F Tinmore]

Tinmore gets his maps from Palestinian Embassy


That's a map of Israel



Show me a current map of Palestine

Show me when Israel legally acquired that land.

 

[toastman]

President Abbas said that the State of Palestine was already in existence and that the current battle is to have the state's border recognized

The borders of the declared State of Palestine were not specified

State of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[toastman]

Tinmore gets his maps from Palestinian Embassy


That's a map of Israel



Show me a current map of Palestine

Show me when Israel legally acquired that land.

We've been through time and time again

It has nothing to do with acquring land

However, I KNEW you would go back to that stupid statement


All I'm asking for is a current map of Palestine and proof that it has current recognized borders, but all I get is a song and dance from you

 

[toastman]

Now, lets go take a look at Israels borders:


The Israel-Jordan Treaty of Peace was signed on October 26, 1994. The treaty resolved territorial and border issues that were ongoing since the 1948 war. The treaty specified and fully recognized the international border between Israel and Jordan. Upon its signing, the Jordan and Yarmouk Rivers, the Dead Sea, the Emek Ha'arva/Wadi Araba and the Gulf of Aqaba were officially designated as the borders between Israel and Jordan

The Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty, signed on March 26, 1979 created an officially recognized international border along the 1906 line, with Egypt renouncing all claims to the Gaza Strip.

Borders of Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[P F Tinmore]

Tinmore gets his maps from Palestinian Embassy


That's a map of Israel



Show me a current map of Palestine

Show me when Israel legally acquired that land.

We've been through time and time again

It has nothing to do with acquring land

However, I KNEW you would go back to that stupid statement


All I'm asking for is a current map of Palestine and proof that it has current recognized borders, but all I get is a song and dance from you

Indeed, and you duck the question every time.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Show me when Israel legally acquired that land.

We've been through time and time again

It has nothing to do with acquring land

However, I KNEW you would go back to that stupid statement


All I'm asking for is a current map of Palestine and proof that it has current recognized borders, but all I get is a song and dance from you

Indeed, and you duck the question every time.

It's not a matter of ducking the question. It's a matter of living in reality. Israel has existed as a modern, thriving, vibrant country for the last 65 years.

 

[toastman]

He asks the question as if there is an answer needed to justify Israels existence lol

Except Rocco has answered his question and owned him every time he asks it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

He asks the question as if there is an answer needed to justify Israels existence lol

Except Rocco has answered his question and owned him every time he asks it.

Rocco always ducks that question too.

 

[P F Tinmore]

We've been through time and time again

It has nothing to do with acquring land

However, I KNEW you would go back to that stupid statement


All I'm asking for is a current map of Palestine and proof that it has current recognized borders, but all I get is a song and dance from you

Indeed, and you duck the question every time.

It's not a matter of ducking the question. It's a matter of living in reality. Israel has existed as a modern, thriving, vibrant country for the last 65 years.

Quack, quack, quack.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore; et al,

You keep asking a "real estate" (legally acquired) question to a matter of "sovereignty" (establishment of a state). It is a nonsensical question. And you keep asking it, over and over again, as if it has some meaning.

Israel did not make a "real estate transaction" to acquire land. It legally declared "sovereignty" under the "right of self-determination" in accordance with the instructions provided by the United Nations (the legally established body holding trusteeship over the territory) in General Assembly Resolution 181(II). Israel was apportioned land out of a legal Mandate (established and recognized by treaty law) in the very same way as Lebanon, Syria and Jordan were apportioned land from their respective mandates (legal precedence) (MAP) by the very same body that wrote established the methods and means for a people to gain sovereignty.

It is the very same method, means, and authority that the Palestinian People used to declare independence in 1988.

Show me when Israel legally acquired that land.

Indeed, and you duck the question every time.

(COMMENT)

No one is ducking the question. You just don't like the answer. You have mistakenly latched onto this "real estate" argument like a rabid dog with the impression that it has some basis to the follow-on position that Israel was established by some illegal means.

The body that writes international laws and protocols did determine that, not withstanding the hostile and active military aggression by the Arab-Palestinian and the foreign armies of the Arab League attempting to alter and interfere with the Jewish right of self determination, Israel was lawfully constituted; even though the borders were confused after Hostile Arab Military intervention failed.

There is not question of "legality." The UN, Israel, and treaties between two of the five belligerent interfering Arab Nations attest to that. The question of borders, less the treaty established borders between Israel with Egypt and Jordan, is outlined by an Armistice Line, as is done under customary law.

Again --- no one is ducking the question. You just don't like the answer. Your position is the same as the one held by the Jihadist and Fedayeen:

• Palestine is the homeland of the Arab Palestinian people; it is an indivisible part of the greater Arab homeland, and the Palestinian people are an integral part of the Arab nation.
  
• Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
  
• The partition of Palestine in 1947, and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and its natural right in their homeland, and were inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
  
• The Balfour Declaration, the Palestine Mandate, and everything that has been based on them, are deemed null and void. Claims of historical or religious ties of Jews with Palestine are incompatible with the facts of history and the conception of what constitutes statehood. Judaism, being a religion, is not an independent nationality. Nor do Jews constitute a single nation with an identity of their own; they are citizens of the states to which they belong.

Like many Article 30 Jihadist, their actions are "not confined to the carrying of arms and the confrontation of the enemy. The effective word, the good article, the useful book, support and solidarity - together with the presence of sincere purpose for the hoisting of Allah's banner higher and higher - all these are elements of the Jihad for Allah's sake." The perpetuation of this nonsensical argument over "legally acquired land" is just another form of Jihadist support in accordance with the blanket guidance of the parent terrorist organization.

We all understand this; the intent and purpose. But once light is shined upon it, and exposes it for what it is, you would think you could change-up the argument and make it a bit more challenging.

Despite the historical injustice done to the Palestinian Arab people in its displacement and in being deprived of the right to self-determination following the adoption of General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) of 1947, which partitioned Palestine into an Arab and a Jewish State, that resolution nevertheless continues to attach conditions to international legitimacy that guarantee the Palestinian Arab people the right to sovereignty and national independence.

For the Palestinian side, and since the strategic decision to forge a peace on the basis of coexistence, resolution 181 (II) has become acceptable. The resolution provides the legal basis for the existence of both the Jewish and the Arab States in Mandated Palestine. According to the resolution, Jerusalem should become a corpus separatum, which the Palestinian side is willing to take into consideration and to reconcile with the Palestinian position that East Jerusalem is part of the Palestinian territory and the capital of the Palestinian State. The Palestinian side adheres to international legitimacy and respects General Assembly resolution 181 (II), as well as Security Council resolution 242 (1967), the implementation of which is the aim of the current Middle East peace process.

SOURCE: A/53/879 S/1999/334 25 March 1999

SOURCE: A/43/827 S/20278 18 November 1988

We also understand that within the Hostile Palestinian Movement, there are factions that are perpetuating an internal conflict, where some recognize the legitimacy of the International Body, and some find any argument to contradict the legitimacy. It would be most helpful to the world and the Palestinian People themselves, if they were to take their medication to abate the Dissociative Identity Disorder (split personality). It would help them gain their Article 22 (Able to Stand Alone) and Resolution 194(III) (live in peace) recognition. It would help their cause and the opportunities for their next untainted generation (Article 15 The Children of the Jihadist and Fedayeen).

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[toastman]

Im still laughing at the fact that Tinmore got his map of Palestine from the site that he did hahahahaha

Oh my, that one will stay with me for a long time

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore; et al,

You keep asking a "real estate" (legally acquired) question to a matter of "sovereignty" (establishment of a state). It is a nonsensical question. And you keep asking it, over and over again, as if it has some meaning.

Israel did not make a "real estate transaction" to acquire land. It legally declared "sovereignty" under the "right of self-determination" in accordance with the instructions provided by the United Nations (the legally established body holding trusteeship over the territory) in General Assembly Resolution 181(II). Israel was apportioned land out of a legal Mandate (established and recognized by treaty law) in the very same way as Lebanon, Syria and Jordan were apportioned land from their respective mandates (legal precedence) (MAP) by the very same body that wrote established the methods and means for a people to gain sovereignty.

It is the very same method, means, and authority that the Palestinian People used to declare independence in 1988.

Show me when Israel legally acquired that land.

Indeed, and you duck the question every time.

(COMMENT)

No one is ducking the question. You just don't like the answer. You have mistakenly latched onto this "real estate" argument like a rabid dog with the impression that it has some basis to the follow-on position that Israel was established by some illegal means.

The body that writes international laws and protocols did determine that, not withstanding the hostile and active military aggression by the Arab-Palestinian and the foreign armies of the Arab League attempting to alter and interfere with the Jewish right of self determination, Israel was lawfully constituted; even though the borders were confused after Hostile Arab Military intervention failed.

There is not question of "legality." The UN, Israel, and treaties between two of the five belligerent interfering Arab Nations attest to that. The question of borders, less the treaty established borders between Israel with Egypt and Jordan, is outlined by an Armistice Line, as is done under customary law.

Again --- no one is ducking the question. You just don't like the answer. Your position is the same as the one held by the Jihadist and Fedayeen:

• Palestine is the homeland of the Arab Palestinian people; it is an indivisible part of the greater Arab homeland, and the Palestinian people are an integral part of the Arab nation.
  
• Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
  
• The partition of Palestine in 1947, and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and its natural right in their homeland, and were inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
  
• The Balfour Declaration, the Palestine Mandate, and everything that has been based on them, are deemed null and void. Claims of historical or religious ties of Jews with Palestine are incompatible with the facts of history and the conception of what constitutes statehood. Judaism, being a religion, is not an independent nationality. Nor do Jews constitute a single nation with an identity of their own; they are citizens of the states to which they belong.

Like many Article 30 Jihadist, their actions are "not confined to the carrying of arms and the confrontation of the enemy. The effective word, the good article, the useful book, support and solidarity - together with the presence of sincere purpose for the hoisting of Allah's banner higher and higher - all these are elements of the Jihad for Allah's sake." The perpetuation of this nonsensical argument over "legally acquired land" is just another form of Jihadist support in accordance with the blanket guidance of the parent terrorist organization.

We all understand this; the intent and purpose. But once light is shined upon it, and exposes it for what it is, you would think you could change-up the argument and make it a bit more challenging.

Despite the historical injustice done to the Palestinian Arab people in its displacement and in being deprived of the right to self-determination following the adoption of General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) of 1947, which partitioned Palestine into an Arab and a Jewish State, that resolution nevertheless continues to attach conditions to international legitimacy that guarantee the Palestinian Arab people the right to sovereignty and national independence.

For the Palestinian side, and since the strategic decision to forge a peace on the basis of coexistence, resolution 181 (II) has become acceptable. The resolution provides the legal basis for the existence of both the Jewish and the Arab States in Mandated Palestine. According to the resolution, Jerusalem should become a corpus separatum, which the Palestinian side is willing to take into consideration and to reconcile with the Palestinian position that East Jerusalem is part of the Palestinian territory and the capital of the Palestinian State. The Palestinian side adheres to international legitimacy and respects General Assembly resolution 181 (II), as well as Security Council resolution 242 (1967), the implementation of which is the aim of the current Middle East peace process.

SOURCE: A/53/879 S/1999/334 25 March 1999

SOURCE: A/43/827 S/20278 18 November 1988

We also understand that within the Hostile Palestinian Movement, there are factions that are perpetuating an internal conflict, where some recognize the legitimacy of the International Body, and some find any argument to contradict the legitimacy. It would be most helpful to the world and the Palestinian People themselves, if they were to take their medication to abate the Dissociative Identity Disorder (split personality). It would help them gain their Article 22 (Able to Stand Alone) and Resolution 194(III) (live in peace) recognition. It would help their cause and the opportunities for their next untainted generation (Article 15 The Children of the Jihadist and Fedayeen).

Most Respectfully,
R

Wow, Rocco, so much smoke!

It is not about real estate. It is about popular sovereignty and self determination. These are not "given rights," they are inherent in the native population.

You have never posted a link saying that foreigners have superior rights to the native population.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

P F Tinmore; et al,

You keep asking a "real estate" (legally acquired) question to a matter of "sovereignty" (establishment of a state). It is a nonsensical question. And you keep asking it, over and over again, as if it has some meaning.

Israel did not make a "real estate transaction" to acquire land. It legally declared "sovereignty" under the "right of self-determination" in accordance with the instructions provided by the United Nations (the legally established body holding trusteeship over the territory) in General Assembly Resolution 181(II). Israel was apportioned land out of a legal Mandate (established and recognized by treaty law) in the very same way as Lebanon, Syria and Jordan were apportioned land from their respective mandates (legal precedence) (MAP) by the very same body that wrote established the methods and means for a people to gain sovereignty.

It is the very same method, means, and authority that the Palestinian People used to declare independence in 1988.

Indeed, and you duck the question every time.

(COMMENT)

No one is ducking the question. You just don't like the answer. You have mistakenly latched onto this "real estate" argument like a rabid dog with the impression that it has some basis to the follow-on position that Israel was established by some illegal means.

The body that writes international laws and protocols did determine that, not withstanding the hostile and active military aggression by the Arab-Palestinian and the foreign armies of the Arab League attempting to alter and interfere with the Jewish right of self determination, Israel was lawfully constituted; even though the borders were confused after Hostile Arab Military intervention failed.

There is not question of "legality." The UN, Israel, and treaties between two of the five belligerent interfering Arab Nations attest to that. The question of borders, less the treaty established borders between Israel with Egypt and Jordan, is outlined by an Armistice Line, as is done under customary law.

Again --- no one is ducking the question. You just don't like the answer. Your position is the same as the one held by the Jihadist and Fedayeen:

• Palestine is the homeland of the Arab Palestinian people; it is an indivisible part of the greater Arab homeland, and the Palestinian people are an integral part of the Arab nation.
  
• Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
  
• The partition of Palestine in 1947, and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and its natural right in their homeland, and were inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
  
• The Balfour Declaration, the Palestine Mandate, and everything that has been based on them, are deemed null and void. Claims of historical or religious ties of Jews with Palestine are incompatible with the facts of history and the conception of what constitutes statehood. Judaism, being a religion, is not an independent nationality. Nor do Jews constitute a single nation with an identity of their own; they are citizens of the states to which they belong.

Like many Article 30 Jihadist, their actions are "not confined to the carrying of arms and the confrontation of the enemy. The effective word, the good article, the useful book, support and solidarity - together with the presence of sincere purpose for the hoisting of Allah's banner higher and higher - all these are elements of the Jihad for Allah's sake." The perpetuation of this nonsensical argument over "legally acquired land" is just another form of Jihadist support in accordance with the blanket guidance of the parent terrorist organization.

We all understand this; the intent and purpose. But once light is shined upon it, and exposes it for what it is, you would think you could change-up the argument and make it a bit more challenging.

Despite the historical injustice done to the Palestinian Arab people in its displacement and in being deprived of the right to self-determination following the adoption of General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) of 1947, which partitioned Palestine into an Arab and a Jewish State, that resolution nevertheless continues to attach conditions to international legitimacy that guarantee the Palestinian Arab people the right to sovereignty and national independence.


SOURCE: A/43/827 S/20278 18 November 1988

We also understand that within the Hostile Palestinian Movement, there are factions that are perpetuating an internal conflict, where some recognize the legitimacy of the International Body, and some find any argument to contradict the legitimacy. It would be most helpful to the world and the Palestinian People themselves, if they were to take their medication to abate the Dissociative Identity Disorder (split personality). It would help them gain their Article 22 (Able to Stand Alone) and Resolution 194(III) (live in peace) recognition. It would help their cause and the opportunities for their next untainted generation (Article 15 The Children of the Jihadist and Fedayeen).

Most Respectfully,
R

Wow, Rocco, so much smoke!

It is not about real estate. It is about popular sovereignty and self determination. These are not "given rights," they are inherent in the native population.

You have never posted a link saying that foreigners have superior rights to the native population.

You say the Jews are "foreigners" because you have never been to Israel. From Masada to Jerusalem to Sefad to any digging site, the land is Jewish, thru and thru.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore; et al,

You keep asking a "real estate" (legally acquired) question to a matter of "sovereignty" (establishment of a state). It is a nonsensical question. And you keep asking it, over and over again, as if it has some meaning.

Israel did not make a "real estate transaction" to acquire land. It legally declared "sovereignty" under the "right of self-determination" in accordance with the instructions provided by the United Nations (the legally established body holding trusteeship over the territory) in General Assembly Resolution 181(II). Israel was apportioned land out of a legal Mandate (established and recognized by treaty law) in the very same way as Lebanon, Syria and Jordan were apportioned land from their respective mandates (legal precedence) (MAP) by the very same body that wrote established the methods and means for a people to gain sovereignty.

It is the very same method, means, and authority that the Palestinian People used to declare independence in 1988.


(COMMENT)

No one is ducking the question. You just don't like the answer. You have mistakenly latched onto this "real estate" argument like a rabid dog with the impression that it has some basis to the follow-on position that Israel was established by some illegal means.

The body that writes international laws and protocols did determine that, not withstanding the hostile and active military aggression by the Arab-Palestinian and the foreign armies of the Arab League attempting to alter and interfere with the Jewish right of self determination, Israel was lawfully constituted; even though the borders were confused after Hostile Arab Military intervention failed.

There is not question of "legality." The UN, Israel, and treaties between two of the five belligerent interfering Arab Nations attest to that. The question of borders, less the treaty established borders between Israel with Egypt and Jordan, is outlined by an Armistice Line, as is done under customary law.

Again --- no one is ducking the question. You just don't like the answer. Your position is the same as the one held by the Jihadist and Fedayeen:

• Palestine is the homeland of the Arab Palestinian people; it is an indivisible part of the greater Arab homeland, and the Palestinian people are an integral part of the Arab nation.
  
• Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
  
• The partition of Palestine in 1947, and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and its natural right in their homeland, and were inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
  
• The Balfour Declaration, the Palestine Mandate, and everything that has been based on them, are deemed null and void. Claims of historical or religious ties of Jews with Palestine are incompatible with the facts of history and the conception of what constitutes statehood. Judaism, being a religion, is not an independent nationality. Nor do Jews constitute a single nation with an identity of their own; they are citizens of the states to which they belong.

Like many Article 30 Jihadist, their actions are "not confined to the carrying of arms and the confrontation of the enemy. The effective word, the good article, the useful book, support and solidarity - together with the presence of sincere purpose for the hoisting of Allah's banner higher and higher - all these are elements of the Jihad for Allah's sake." The perpetuation of this nonsensical argument over "legally acquired land" is just another form of Jihadist support in accordance with the blanket guidance of the parent terrorist organization.

We all understand this; the intent and purpose. But once light is shined upon it, and exposes it for what it is, you would think you could change-up the argument and make it a bit more challenging.



We also understand that within the Hostile Palestinian Movement, there are factions that are perpetuating an internal conflict, where some recognize the legitimacy of the International Body, and some find any argument to contradict the legitimacy. It would be most helpful to the world and the Palestinian People themselves, if they were to take their medication to abate the Dissociative Identity Disorder (split personality). It would help them gain their Article 22 (Able to Stand Alone) and Resolution 194(III) (live in peace) recognition. It would help their cause and the opportunities for their next untainted generation (Article 15 The Children of the Jihadist and Fedayeen).

Most Respectfully,
R

Wow, Rocco, so much smoke!

It is not about real estate. It is about popular sovereignty and self determination. These are not "given rights," they are inherent in the native population.

You have never posted a link saying that foreigners have superior rights to the native population.

You say the Jews are "foreigners" because you have never been to Israel. From Masada to Jerusalem to Sefad to any digging site, the land is Jewish, thru and thru.

Nope, never said that.

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore; et al,

You keep asking a "real estate" (legally acquired) question to a matter of "sovereignty" (establishment of a state). It is a nonsensical question. And you keep asking it, over and over again, as if it has some meaning.

Israel did not make a "real estate transaction" to acquire land. It legally declared "sovereignty" under the "right of self-determination" in accordance with the instructions provided by the United Nations (the legally established body holding trusteeship over the territory) in General Assembly Resolution 181(II). Israel was apportioned land out of a legal Mandate (established and recognized by treaty law) in the very same way as Lebanon, Syria and Jordan were apportioned land from their respective mandates (legal precedence) (MAP) by the very same body that wrote established the methods and means for a people to gain sovereignty.

It is the very same method, means, and authority that the Palestinian People used to declare independence in 1988.

Indeed, and you duck the question every time.

(COMMENT)

No one is ducking the question. You just don't like the answer. You have mistakenly latched onto this "real estate" argument like a rabid dog with the impression that it has some basis to the follow-on position that Israel was established by some illegal means.

The body that writes international laws and protocols did determine that, not withstanding the hostile and active military aggression by the Arab-Palestinian and the foreign armies of the Arab League attempting to alter and interfere with the Jewish right of self determination, Israel was lawfully constituted; even though the borders were confused after Hostile Arab Military intervention failed.

There is not question of "legality." The UN, Israel, and treaties between two of the five belligerent interfering Arab Nations attest to that. The question of borders, less the treaty established borders between Israel with Egypt and Jordan, is outlined by an Armistice Line, as is done under customary law.

Again --- no one is ducking the question. You just don't like the answer. Your position is the same as the one held by the Jihadist and Fedayeen:

• Palestine is the homeland of the Arab Palestinian people; it is an indivisible part of the greater Arab homeland, and the Palestinian people are an integral part of the Arab nation.
  
• Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
  
• The partition of Palestine in 1947, and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and its natural right in their homeland, and were inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
  
• The Balfour Declaration, the Palestine Mandate, and everything that has been based on them, are deemed null and void. Claims of historical or religious ties of Jews with Palestine are incompatible with the facts of history and the conception of what constitutes statehood. Judaism, being a religion, is not an independent nationality. Nor do Jews constitute a single nation with an identity of their own; they are citizens of the states to which they belong.

Like many Article 30 Jihadist, their actions are "not confined to the carrying of arms and the confrontation of the enemy. The effective word, the good article, the useful book, support and solidarity - together with the presence of sincere purpose for the hoisting of Allah's banner higher and higher - all these are elements of the Jihad for Allah's sake." The perpetuation of this nonsensical argument over "legally acquired land" is just another form of Jihadist support in accordance with the blanket guidance of the parent terrorist organization.

We all understand this; the intent and purpose. But once light is shined upon it, and exposes it for what it is, you would think you could change-up the argument and make it a bit more challenging.

Despite the historical injustice done to the Palestinian Arab people in its displacement and in being deprived of the right to self-determination following the adoption of General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) of 1947, which partitioned Palestine into an Arab and a Jewish State, that resolution nevertheless continues to attach conditions to international legitimacy that guarantee the Palestinian Arab people the right to sovereignty and national independence.


SOURCE: A/43/827 S/20278 18 November 1988

We also understand that within the Hostile Palestinian Movement, there are factions that are perpetuating an internal conflict, where some recognize the legitimacy of the International Body, and some find any argument to contradict the legitimacy. It would be most helpful to the world and the Palestinian People themselves, if they were to take their medication to abate the Dissociative Identity Disorder (split personality). It would help them gain their Article 22 (Able to Stand Alone) and Resolution 194(III) (live in peace) recognition. It would help their cause and the opportunities for their next untainted generation (Article 15 The Children of the Jihadist and Fedayeen).

Most Respectfully,
R

Wow, Rocco, so much smoke!

It is not about real estate. It is about popular sovereignty and self determination. These are not "given rights," they are inherent in the native population.

You have never posted a link saying that foreigners have superior rights to the native population.

Smoke ? What smoke ??

He's providing you with facts while backing them up. Something you have failed to do. All you do is make up shit as you go along, but you cannot accept the fact that everything Rocco said is true.

As for the bold, Rocco never said that. You keep bringing this whole foreigner bullshit.

Tinmore, it's now 2013, Israel has been around for 65 years. Obviously, you hate Israel so you will do EVERYTHING possible to delegitimitize her existence.

All one has to do is read you posts from the last few pages to show that you have proven fuck all. Everything you said is your opinion.

Israel exists. The land that is shown on a map entitles Israel is Israel land, not the land of the Palestinians. Sure, they may have owned land there at one point, but they never had sovereignty over that land.

I know that you know that what Rocco said is true, but you simply cannot admit it, so you continue to blow smoke (yet somehow you accuse Rocco of doing just that)

 

[P F Tinmore]

Arabs have wasted enough sand in the ME, just look what they do with the land they do have, they car bomb each other and/or beat their covered up women and value their camels more then their wiVES. Fucking bunch of carpet kissing fools who are too much of a bunch of pussies to do anything to Israel.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRXu_Y1brzA]Palestinian 'Speed Sisters' Winning Respect - YouTube[/ame]

How come none of the cars blew up? They having a bad day?

Ha, ha, very funny.

You gatta love Palestinian women.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAv0mg0Tla0]noor daoud - YouTube[/ame]

 

[toastman]

What are you trying to prove by showing us these videos ?

 

[pbel]

Palestinian 'Speed Sisters' Winning Respect - YouTube

How come none of the cars blew up? They having a bad day?

These "modern Palestinian" videos don't impress me. The very reason Palestinians are more modern than their Arab brethren, is because they're so close to Israel. And your heroes, Hamas, are the most anti-modern of all.

Another lie....

http://www.palestine-primer.com/Palestine_Primer/Education.html

Education
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Palestinians were always the most educated of the Arab peoples and they are determined to keep standards up. Many Palestinians are today running Jordan. It is wholly mistaken to think of Palestinians (or indeed Bedouins) as ‘primitive farmers’, even though they may be living in near Third World conditions. Not infrequently Palestinians have doctorates.
Universities





We visited the University of Bethlehem; founded by (Catholic) Christians in order that both Christians and Moslems - and the more especially Moslem women whom it was recognized had few opportunities - might get an education. Today the university has a majority of women students and (following the sharp decline in the of number of Christians in Bethlehem) is overwhelmingly Moslem. Students study a variety of subjects, including for example computer science. Some we met aspired to go abroad for further education. Students live in small groups, not in dorms, as it is much safer: the Israeli military has a propensity for attacking male dorms as a place where young men are congregated. The library had an interesting small museum/exhibition of Palestinian crafts and traditional handiwork. A map showing the separation barrier and confiscated Palestinian land dominated the space.