What the national polls say about a 2020 Trump vs. Biden race.

[Redfish]

Trump is getting crushed by BIDEN again in another national poll released by QUINNIPIAC on June 11, 2019:

BIDEN: 53%

TRUMP: 40%

keep believing it, those same pollsters had hillary with a 98% chance of winning. They lied to you then and they are lying to you now. But keep believing, go for it.

Where is your source for QUINNIPIAC claiming Hillary had a 98% chance of winning?

sorry, it was only 97%.

If you want to believe that sleepy Joe can beat Trump, go right ahead, you will be greatly disappointed but you are free to believe it.

 

[Redfish]

which president did not incur those kinds of expenses in order to meet with foreign rulers? Are you happy that we paid for Obozo's annual vacations at a Hawaii mansion? How about Michelle's trips to europe with her entourage of hundreds, all on our tab?

your expense argument is dumb and has no basis in fact. Your hate has made you stupid.

Trump's kids and their families paid their own expenses to the UK and France, did you know that?

Margo Largo is not over seas. Stopping off in Ireland to use a short meeting with the leader of Ireland just so he can do 2 days of Gold at one of his Trump Industries Golf Courses is like other Presidents? You are doing it again. You are giving Trump a free ride. The more free rides you give him the more he's going to demand more free rides. At what point are you going to say, "Enough".

You didn't figure in the cost of the Trump Clans security and other expenses.

VERIFY: Did U.S. taxpayers pay for Trump's adult children to travel to the U.K.?

Still, U.S. taxpayers will have to cover things like Secret Service protection and lodging for those agents.

So we can Verify, no, Trump’s adult children without White House badges are paying for themselves. But the bill for Secret Service detail is on American people.

Employing a line of bodyguards can get pricey. Between January - February 2017, Donald Jr. and Eric Trump traveled on three occasions to Uruguay, the Dominican Republic and the United Arab Emirates; their combined security detail cost $396,000, according to Government Accountability Office data.

And those trips were Trump Industry Business trips. Ivanka and Jerod are both part of the State Department so all their expenses are paid no matter where they travel as well as their security team.

If Eric and Don Jr. travel to another city, the Security team has to go as well and the Security Team's expenses has to be paid for lodging, etc. above and beyond the normal day to day cost. And where do they stay? Trump Industries controlled Lodgings and other Fun Places. And the money keeps rolling in.

And I think we have yet to meet the real Democratic Candidate. Kind of drive you crazy, don't it. I would like to thank Biden for really driving you off your rails. Get it out of your system.

did the obamas not use secret service for their entourage when they traveled? you look more stupid with each new post.

so if not sleepy Joe, who?

Yes, when he HAD to travel. He didn't vacation in his own "Disney" type lands and call it a National Business Trip and bill the Tax Payer 2 out of 7 days a week. He's done more work in Margo Largo than in DC with foreign dignitaries. And the Foreign Dignitaries also stayed in the Trump Industries properties. It's one thing to do what Obama did and go to visit where he was raised once or twice. But to continually travel to Florida to Golf, go to Ireland to Golf, etc. and call them National Business Trips is another. And to do it almost each and every week. When Obama went to Europe, he usually had a reason like the G-8 or NATO conference. Michelle, once, did do a pleasure trip but that was once. You can't really compare the two Presidents on the amount of excess money spent in travel. Trump spends more in one month than Obama spent in 8 years. In fact, Trump has spent in 2 years more than all the Presidents in the history of the United States. We need to put him on a budget and make him live by it. Stop giving him the free rides. The more free rides you give him the more free rides he will demand.

when Trump goes to Mara Lago we dont pay for his rooms etc, when Obama went to Hawaii we footed the entire bill, When Michelle took her kids and her entourage of 100 to europe we paid the entire bill. When Bush went to his ranch in Texas we didn't pay for his lodging, when Reagan went to his ranch in Cal we didn't pay for his lodgings. When the clintons went anywhere we paid the entire bill because they never had a home while he was POTUS.

so bring on the comparisons, you will continue to lose.

Wrong, bunko artist. We do pay for his rooms and every room for his entire staff including his security team. And don't forget for AF1, the C-5M Galaxy Support Cargo Plane that carries his cars, the support people to support those birds room and board as well. It's a cast of hundreds. All just for a round of Golf that we pay for as well. If Trump wanted to play a round of Golf, there are plenty of courses around DC. But he doesn't own those. I think the US would save money by buying one and giving him the course so he would be able to golf closer to the whitehouse.

Did we not pay those costs when Obama went to Hawaii on vacation to play golf and play in the surf?

Sure, it costs when presidents travel, but to claim that Trump is the first to do it is just plain stupid.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Margo Largo is not over seas. Stopping off in Ireland to use a short meeting with the leader of Ireland just so he can do 2 days of Gold at one of his Trump Industries Golf Courses is like other Presidents? You are doing it again. You are giving Trump a free ride. The more free rides you give him the more he's going to demand more free rides. At what point are you going to say, "Enough".

You didn't figure in the cost of the Trump Clans security and other expenses.

VERIFY: Did U.S. taxpayers pay for Trump's adult children to travel to the U.K.?

Still, U.S. taxpayers will have to cover things like Secret Service protection and lodging for those agents.

So we can Verify, no, Trump’s adult children without White House badges are paying for themselves. But the bill for Secret Service detail is on American people.

Employing a line of bodyguards can get pricey. Between January - February 2017, Donald Jr. and Eric Trump traveled on three occasions to Uruguay, the Dominican Republic and the United Arab Emirates; their combined security detail cost $396,000, according to Government Accountability Office data.

And those trips were Trump Industry Business trips. Ivanka and Jerod are both part of the State Department so all their expenses are paid no matter where they travel as well as their security team.

If Eric and Don Jr. travel to another city, the Security team has to go as well and the Security Team's expenses has to be paid for lodging, etc. above and beyond the normal day to day cost. And where do they stay? Trump Industries controlled Lodgings and other Fun Places. And the money keeps rolling in.

And I think we have yet to meet the real Democratic Candidate. Kind of drive you crazy, don't it. I would like to thank Biden for really driving you off your rails. Get it out of your system.

did the obamas not use secret service for their entourage when they traveled? you look more stupid with each new post.

so if not sleepy Joe, who?

Yes, when he HAD to travel. He didn't vacation in his own "Disney" type lands and call it a National Business Trip and bill the Tax Payer 2 out of 7 days a week. He's done more work in Margo Largo than in DC with foreign dignitaries. And the Foreign Dignitaries also stayed in the Trump Industries properties. It's one thing to do what Obama did and go to visit where he was raised once or twice. But to continually travel to Florida to Golf, go to Ireland to Golf, etc. and call them National Business Trips is another. And to do it almost each and every week. When Obama went to Europe, he usually had a reason like the G-8 or NATO conference. Michelle, once, did do a pleasure trip but that was once. You can't really compare the two Presidents on the amount of excess money spent in travel. Trump spends more in one month than Obama spent in 8 years. In fact, Trump has spent in 2 years more than all the Presidents in the history of the United States. We need to put him on a budget and make him live by it. Stop giving him the free rides. The more free rides you give him the more free rides he will demand.

when Trump goes to Mara Lago we dont pay for his rooms etc, when Obama went to Hawaii we footed the entire bill, When Michelle took her kids and her entourage of 100 to europe we paid the entire bill. When Bush went to his ranch in Texas we didn't pay for his lodging, when Reagan went to his ranch in Cal we didn't pay for his lodgings. When the clintons went anywhere we paid the entire bill because they never had a home while he was POTUS.

so bring on the comparisons, you will continue to lose.

Wrong, bunko artist. We do pay for his rooms and every room for his entire staff including his security team. And don't forget for AF1, the C-5M Galaxy Support Cargo Plane that carries his cars, the support people to support those birds room and board as well. It's a cast of hundreds. All just for a round of Golf that we pay for as well. If Trump wanted to play a round of Golf, there are plenty of courses around DC. But he doesn't own those. I think the US would save money by buying one and giving him the course so he would be able to golf closer to the whitehouse.

Did we not pay those costs when Obama went to Hawaii on vacation to play golf and play in the surf?

Sure, it costs when presidents travel, but to claim that Trump is the first to do it is just plain stupid.

Considering I never said Trump was the first is you just making crap up again. I said he does it more than all Presidents in the History of the United States Combined. At least when Obama went Golfing, most of his rounds were played on Military Golf Courses.

 

[Redfish]

did the obamas not use secret service for their entourage when they traveled? you look more stupid with each new post.

so if not sleepy Joe, who?

Yes, when he HAD to travel. He didn't vacation in his own "Disney" type lands and call it a National Business Trip and bill the Tax Payer 2 out of 7 days a week. He's done more work in Margo Largo than in DC with foreign dignitaries. And the Foreign Dignitaries also stayed in the Trump Industries properties. It's one thing to do what Obama did and go to visit where he was raised once or twice. But to continually travel to Florida to Golf, go to Ireland to Golf, etc. and call them National Business Trips is another. And to do it almost each and every week. When Obama went to Europe, he usually had a reason like the G-8 or NATO conference. Michelle, once, did do a pleasure trip but that was once. You can't really compare the two Presidents on the amount of excess money spent in travel. Trump spends more in one month than Obama spent in 8 years. In fact, Trump has spent in 2 years more than all the Presidents in the history of the United States. We need to put him on a budget and make him live by it. Stop giving him the free rides. The more free rides you give him the more free rides he will demand.

when Trump goes to Mara Lago we dont pay for his rooms etc, when Obama went to Hawaii we footed the entire bill, When Michelle took her kids and her entourage of 100 to europe we paid the entire bill. When Bush went to his ranch in Texas we didn't pay for his lodging, when Reagan went to his ranch in Cal we didn't pay for his lodgings. When the clintons went anywhere we paid the entire bill because they never had a home while he was POTUS.

so bring on the comparisons, you will continue to lose.

Wrong, bunko artist. We do pay for his rooms and every room for his entire staff including his security team. And don't forget for AF1, the C-5M Galaxy Support Cargo Plane that carries his cars, the support people to support those birds room and board as well. It's a cast of hundreds. All just for a round of Golf that we pay for as well. If Trump wanted to play a round of Golf, there are plenty of courses around DC. But he doesn't own those. I think the US would save money by buying one and giving him the course so he would be able to golf closer to the whitehouse.

Did we not pay those costs when Obama went to Hawaii on vacation to play golf and play in the surf?

Sure, it costs when presidents travel, but to claim that Trump is the first to do it is just plain stupid.

Considering I never said Trump was the first is you just making crap up again. I said he does it more than all Presidents in the History of the United States Combined. At least when Obama went Golfing, most of his rounds were played on Military Golf Courses.

your claim that he "does it more than all presidents in the history...combined." is also a lie. and a very stupid one at that. come on dude, its OK to not like the president, but to continually post lies just makes you look stupid.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Yes, when he HAD to travel. He didn't vacation in his own "Disney" type lands and call it a National Business Trip and bill the Tax Payer 2 out of 7 days a week. He's done more work in Margo Largo than in DC with foreign dignitaries. And the Foreign Dignitaries also stayed in the Trump Industries properties. It's one thing to do what Obama did and go to visit where he was raised once or twice. But to continually travel to Florida to Golf, go to Ireland to Golf, etc. and call them National Business Trips is another. And to do it almost each and every week. When Obama went to Europe, he usually had a reason like the G-8 or NATO conference. Michelle, once, did do a pleasure trip but that was once. You can't really compare the two Presidents on the amount of excess money spent in travel. Trump spends more in one month than Obama spent in 8 years. In fact, Trump has spent in 2 years more than all the Presidents in the history of the United States. We need to put him on a budget and make him live by it. Stop giving him the free rides. The more free rides you give him the more free rides he will demand.

when Trump goes to Mara Lago we dont pay for his rooms etc, when Obama went to Hawaii we footed the entire bill, When Michelle took her kids and her entourage of 100 to europe we paid the entire bill. When Bush went to his ranch in Texas we didn't pay for his lodging, when Reagan went to his ranch in Cal we didn't pay for his lodgings. When the clintons went anywhere we paid the entire bill because they never had a home while he was POTUS.

so bring on the comparisons, you will continue to lose.

Wrong, bunko artist. We do pay for his rooms and every room for his entire staff including his security team. And don't forget for AF1, the C-5M Galaxy Support Cargo Plane that carries his cars, the support people to support those birds room and board as well. It's a cast of hundreds. All just for a round of Golf that we pay for as well. If Trump wanted to play a round of Golf, there are plenty of courses around DC. But he doesn't own those. I think the US would save money by buying one and giving him the course so he would be able to golf closer to the whitehouse.

Did we not pay those costs when Obama went to Hawaii on vacation to play golf and play in the surf?

Sure, it costs when presidents travel, but to claim that Trump is the first to do it is just plain stupid.

Considering I never said Trump was the first is you just making crap up again. I said he does it more than all Presidents in the History of the United States Combined. At least when Obama went Golfing, most of his rounds were played on Military Golf Courses.

your claim that he "does it more than all presidents in the history...combined." is also a lie. and a very stupid one at that. come on dude, its OK to not like the president, but to continually post lies just makes you look stupid.

How many times has President Donald Trump played golf while in office?

How many times has Trump played golf as President of the United States? Since taking office on Jan. 20, 2017, Mr. Trump has reportedly been on the grounds of his golf courses or played golf elsewhere 197 times since becoming President, and that's as of June 15, 2019.

He previously was on pace to visit his golf clubs more than 650 times in an eight-year presidency. However, his pace as of Aug. 6, 2018 now indicates Trump would spend as much as 745 days of his presidency at a golf course if he wins a second term and serves both terms to completion.

Now for all 8 years of Obama.
We've crunched the numbers, and it's official: President Obama played A LOT of golf while in office - Golf Digest
Obama played 306 rounds while in office, a healthy amount, but well short of the estimated 1,200 rounds Woodrow Wilson played during his term, or the 800 rounds that Dwight Eisenhower played as POTUS. Still, it's more than his immediate predecessors George W. Bush or Bill Clinton, both of whom were golfers as well.

Using two terms, Trump will have spent more days on the golf course than all the other Presidents put together. Obama runs a distant second.

The difference is, Obama played most of his rounds on Military Golf Courses where the costs were kept down. To date, the cost to the Taxpayer for Trump at just Mar a Largo is 3.4 million per visit. And that also goes for each and every other Trump owned or controlled Golf course he visits.

Eisenhower said, "If elected, he would not serve" and he meant it. Most decisions were made by Nixon. Chaney wasn't the most powerful VP, it all goes to Nixon. Nixon actually served as operating President for 14 years. That's even longer than FDR.

I should have said, Trump has played more golf as President than all the Presidents total since Eisenhower. No President can equal the 800 days that Eisenhower played golf except for Wilson who was another that "If Elected, did not serve".

 

[U2Edge]

Trump is getting crushed by BIDEN again in another national poll released by QUINNIPIAC on June 11, 2019:

BIDEN: 53%

TRUMP: 40%

keep believing it, those same pollsters had hillary with a 98% chance of winning. They lied to you then and they are lying to you now. But keep believing, go for it.

Where is your source for QUINNIPIAC claiming Hillary had a 98% chance of winning?

sorry, it was only 97%.

If you want to believe that sleepy Joe can beat Trump, go right ahead, you will be greatly disappointed but you are free to believe it.

Hey, check out the latest poll from FOX NEWS(June 16, 2019) on the BIDEN VS. TRUMP match up in 2020, in the general election:

BIDEN: 49%

TRUMP: 39%

Even FOX NEWS knows Trump is toast in 2020.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Trump is getting crushed by BIDEN again in another national poll released by QUINNIPIAC on June 11, 2019:

BIDEN: 53%

TRUMP: 40%

keep believing it, those same pollsters had hillary with a 98% chance of winning. They lied to you then and they are lying to you now. But keep believing, go for it.

Where is your source for QUINNIPIAC claiming Hillary had a 98% chance of winning?

sorry, it was only 97%.

If you want to believe that sleepy Joe can beat Trump, go right ahead, you will be greatly disappointed but you are free to believe it.

Hey, check out the latest poll from FOX NEWS(June 16, 2019) on the BIDEN VS. TRUMP match up in 2020, in the general election:

BIDEN: 49%

TRUMP: 39%

Even FOX NEWS knows Trump is toast in 2020.

Trump just fires some of his Pollsters in an anger fit. He's in a meltdown on this one. The Dems that still have a head on their shoulders don't want impeachment, they just want trump to keep talking. He's the best PR the Democrats can ever ask for. The 30 hour thing was a godsend. It showed Trump at one of his best times and that was not so good for his image as is were. The Interviewer showed remarkable restraint and professional restraint through all of it.

 

[rightwinger]

Looks like Trump will have to fire more pollsters

 

[Leo123]

Trump just fires some of his Pollsters in an anger fit. He's in a meltdown on this one. The Dems that still have a head on their shoulders don't want impeachment, they just want trump to keep talking. He's the best PR the Democrats can ever ask for. The 30 hour thing was a godsend. It showed Trump at one of his best times and that was not so good for his image as is were. The Interviewer showed remarkable restraint and professional restraint through all of it.

Your desperation is duly noted. The Dems don't stand a chance.

 

[Leo123]

Looks like Trump will have to fire more pollsters

Meh, polls are useless anyway.

 

[Redfish]

Trump is getting crushed by BIDEN again in another national poll released by QUINNIPIAC on June 11, 2019:

BIDEN: 53%

TRUMP: 40%

keep believing it, those same pollsters had hillary with a 98% chance of winning. They lied to you then and they are lying to you now. But keep believing, go for it.

Where is your source for QUINNIPIAC claiming Hillary had a 98% chance of winning?

sorry, it was only 97%.

If you want to believe that sleepy Joe can beat Trump, go right ahead, you will be greatly disappointed but you are free to believe it.

Hey, check out the latest poll from FOX NEWS(June 16, 2019) on the BIDEN VS. TRUMP match up in 2020, in the general election:

BIDEN: 49%

TRUMP: 39%

Even FOX NEWS knows Trump is toast in 2020.

If you want to believe that sleep crazy Joe can beat Trump, go right ahead. You are in for a big disappointment, but continue the delusion if it makes you feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel good.

 

[Redfish]

Looks like Trump will have to fire more pollsters

Did Hillary fire her's yet?

 

[U2Edge]

Some great National polls on the race between BIDEN and TRUMP in July:

FOX NEWS: July 26, 2019

BIDEN: 49%

TRUMP: 39%



ABC NEWS/WASHINGTON POST: July 7, 2019

BIDEN: 53%

TRUMP: 43%



Then there is this new state poll for OHIO:

QUINNIPIAC: July 25, 2019

BIDEN: 50%

TRUMP: 42%


Coming up on August 3, 2019, just 15 months away from the 2020 election.

Of the 34 national polls that have been conducted on a BIDEN Vs. Trump race so far, BIDEN has won every single matchup! His margin of victory has ranged from as low as 4 points over Trump to as high as 18 points over trump. The average of the latest polls puts at 8.5 points ahead of Trump.

Not a good sign at all for Trump.

Here are the the leads BIDEN has in the latest state polls:
Pennsylvania: BIDEN by 11 points
Michigan: BIDEN by 11 points

Ohio: BIDEN by 8 points
Maine: BIDEN by 8 points
Arizona: BIDEN by 5 points​

TEXAS: BIDEN by 4 points
North Carolina: BIDEN by 3 points
Florida: TIED
Wisconsin: no polling yet, but based on the above, for BIDEN.


So based on this, I think were looking at an electoral college victory for BIDEN by these numbers:

BIDEN: 390 EC votes

TRUMP: 148 EC votes

THE EIGHT STATE PICK UP BY BIDEN!

This would be an electoral college victory margin not seen since 1988.

 

[Redfish]

Some great National polls on the race between BIDEN and TRUMP in July:

FOX NEWS: July 26, 2019

BIDEN: 49%

TRUMP: 39%



ABC NEWS/WASHINGTON POST: July 7, 2019

BIDEN: 53%

TRUMP: 43%



Then there is this new state poll for OHIO:

QUINNIPIAC: July 25, 2019

BIDEN: 50%

TRUMP: 42%


Coming up on August 3, 2019, just 15 months away from the 2020 election.

Of the 34 national polls that have been conducted on a BIDEN Vs. Trump race so far, BIDEN has won every single matchup! His margin of victory has ranged from as low as 4 points over Trump to as high as 18 points over trump. The average of the latest polls puts at 8.5 points ahead of Trump.

Not a good sign at all for Trump.

Here are the the leads BIDEN has in the latest state polls:
Pennsylvania: BIDEN by 11 points
Michigan: BIDEN by 11 points

Ohio: BIDEN by 8 points
Maine: BIDEN by 8 points
Arizona: BIDEN by 5 points​

TEXAS: BIDEN by 4 points
North Carolina: BIDEN by 3 points
Florida: TIED
Wisconsin: no polling yet, but based on the above, for BIDEN.


So based on this, I think were looking at an electoral college victory for BIDEN by these numbers:

BIDEN: 390 EC votes

TRUMP: 148 EC votes

THE EIGHT STATE PICK UP BY BIDEN!

This would be an electoral college victory margin not seen since 1988.

well shit!!! why even have the election? lets just let the crooked pollsters pick our presidents?

BTW, most of these same fricken lying pollsters told you that hillary could not lose and that Trump had no path to 270 EC votes. THEY LIED TO YOU THEN AND THEY ARE LYING TO YOU NOW.

 

[rightwinger]

Problem for Trump is that he assumes that because the polls were wrong in 2016, he can count on them always being wrong

 

[Redfish]

Problem for Trump is that he assumes that because the polls were wrong in 2016, he can count on them always being wrong

nope, winger, the polls weren't wrong, they lied. they have become a form of propaganda, not a representative sample of what american voters think. They lied then and they are lying now. Problem is that the american people see through the lies and propaganda.

 

[rightwinger]

Problem for Trump is that he assumes that because the polls were wrong in 2016, he can count on them always being wrong

nope, winger, the polls weren't wrong, they lied. they have become a form of propaganda, not a representative sample of what american voters think. They lied then and they are lying now. Problem is that the american people see through the lies and propaganda.

You assume polls are some coordinated effort

Hundreds of independent polls are conducted following protocols of random sampling.
The polls don’t lie, voters may lie

 

[Redfish]

Problem for Trump is that he assumes that because the polls were wrong in 2016, he can count on them always being wrong

nope, winger, the polls weren't wrong, they lied. they have become a form of propaganda, not a representative sample of what american voters think. They lied then and they are lying now. Problem is that the american people see through the lies and propaganda.

You assume polls are some coordinated effort

Hundreds of independent polls are conducted following protocols of random sampling.
The polls don’t lie, voters may lie

very few are actually independent. most are funded by someone with a political agenda. "Pay me and I will run a poll for you that will give you whatever result you want"

 

[U2Edge]

Some new polling data that does not look good for Trump:

DMN/EMERSON - TEXAS - August 6, 2019:

BIDEN: 51%

TRUMP: 49%

There have been four polls done now of a TRUMP vs. BIDEN in Texas and BIDEN has won 3 out of those for polls by an average margin of 3 points. Trump won the one poll only by 1 point! Looks like Texas is going to be a Battle Ground State!



CIVITAS/SURVEYUSA - NORTH CAROLINA - August 9, 2019

BIDEN: 49%

TRUMP: 41%

If BIDEN can win a state like North Carolina by 8 points, Georgia may be a battleground state now!



KGTV-TV/SURVEYUSA - CALIFORNIA - August 9, 2019

BIDEN: 61%

TRUMP: 27%



SURVEYUSA - GENERAL ELECTION - August 9, 2019

BIDEN: 50%

TRUMP: 42%



IBD/TIPP - GENERAL ELECTION - August 6, 2019

BIDEN: 54%

TRUMP: 41%

 

[MAGAman]

Some new polling data that does not look good for Trump:

DMN/EMERSON - TEXAS - August 6, 2019:

BIDEN: 51%

TRUMP: 49%

There have been four polls done now of a TRUMP vs. BIDEN in Texas and BIDEN has won 3 out of those for polls by an average margin of 3 points. Trump won the one poll only by 1 point! Looks like Texas is going to be a Battle Ground State!



CIVITAS/SURVEYUSA - NORTH CAROLINA - August 9, 2019

BIDEN: 49%

TRUMP: 41%

If BIDEN can win a state like North Carolina by 8 points, Georgia may be a battleground state now!



KGTV-TV/SURVEYUSA - CALIFORNIA - August 9, 2019

BIDEN: 61%

TRUMP: 27%



SURVEYUSA - GENERAL ELECTION - August 9, 2019

BIDEN: 50%

TRUMP: 42%



IBD/TIPP - GENERAL ELECTION - August 6, 2019

BIDEN: 54%

TRUMP: 41%

Ask President Hillary about the polls