What the Media Won't Tell You About Israel

[P F Tinmore]

I also fully support the right of people to individually and collectively defend themselves from people who attack them.

Excluding the Palestinians right to defend themselves, of course.

The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves. But no one is attacking the Palestinians.

Biggest pile of crap post of the day!

 

[Shusha]

That their ancestors converted en-masse to Christianity after 380 AD and then later most to Islam, does not change their origin.

It changes the entire meaning of indigenous.

 

[Shusha]

I also fully support the right of people to individually and collectively defend themselves from people who attack them.

Excluding the Palestinians right to defend themselves, of course.

The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves. But no one is attacking the Palestinians.

Biggest pile of crap post of the day!

Prove it by responding to it then.

 

[montelatici]

That their ancestors converted en-masse to Christianity after 380 AD and then later most to Islam, does not change their origin.

It changes the entire meaning of indigenous.

No, it is the basic definition of indigenous. Because Etruscans converted to Roman religions and then to Christianity doesn't change the fact that Tuscans are indigenous to Tuscany.

 

[Hollie]

That their ancestors converted en-masse to Christianity after 380 AD and then later most to Islam, does not change their origin.

It changes the entire meaning of indigenous.

No, it is the basic definition of indigenous. Because Etruscans converted to Roman religions and then to Christianity doesn't change the fact that Tuscans are indigenous to Tuscany.

So, quite clearly, the colonizing European xtian Crusaders are not indigenous to your invented "country of Pal'istan"

 

[P F Tinmore]

I also fully support the right of people to individually and collectively defend themselves from people who attack them.

Excluding the Palestinians right to defend themselves, of course.

The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves. But no one is attacking the Palestinians.

Biggest pile of crap post of the day!

Prove it by responding to it then.

The Palestinians have been under attack for a hundred years. Where have you been?

 

[Hollie]

I also fully support the right of people to individually and collectively defend themselves from people who attack them.

Excluding the Palestinians right to defend themselves, of course.

The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves. But no one is attacking the Palestinians.

Biggest pile of crap post of the day!

Prove it by responding to it then.

The Palestinians have been under attack for a hundred years. Where have you been?

Such silly melodrama.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Excluding the Palestinians right to defend themselves, of course.

The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves. But no one is attacking the Palestinians.

Biggest pile of crap post of the day!

Prove it by responding to it then.

The Palestinians have been under attack for a hundred years. Where have you been?

Such silly melodrama.

Its true. Look it up.

 

[Shusha]

I also fully support the right of people to individually and collectively defend themselves from people who attack them.

Excluding the Palestinians right to defend themselves, of course.

The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves. But no one is attacking the Palestinians.

Biggest pile of crap post of the day!

Prove it by responding to it then.

The Palestinians have been under attack for a hundred years. Where have you been?

No. They haven't been "under attack". There is a competing claim by an indigenous peoples. Not the same thing.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Excluding the Palestinians right to defend themselves, of course.

The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves. But no one is attacking the Palestinians.

Biggest pile of crap post of the day!

Prove it by responding to it then.

The Palestinians have been under attack for a hundred years. Where have you been?

No. They haven't been "under attack". There is a competing claim by an indigenous peoples. Not the same thing.

Indeed, between the natives and settler colonialists.

 

[Shusha]

They are now not under attack at all. If they stopped all the violence there would be no more. The Israelis are not instigating the violence.

 

[montelatici]

They are now not under attack at all. If they stopped all the violence there would be no more. The Israelis are not instigating the violence.

Occupation, check points and foreign military presence is violence.

 

[Shusha]

They are now not under attack at all. If they stopped all the violence there would be no more. The Israelis are not instigating the violence.

Occupation, check points and foreign military presence is violence.

Nope. They are a response to violence.

 

[P F Tinmore]

They are now not under attack at all. If they stopped all the violence there would be no more. The Israelis are not instigating the violence.

Occupation, check points and foreign military presence is violence.

Nope. They are a response to violence.

The Palestinians were at home minding their own business when they were attacked by settler colonialists. That attack continues to today.

 

[fanger]

They are now not under attack at all. If they stopped all the violence there would be no more. The Israelis are not instigating the violence.

Blockading Gaza is an act of War

 

[Shusha]

They are now not under attack at all. If they stopped all the violence there would be no more. The Israelis are not instigating the violence.

Blockading Gaza is an act of War

Blockading Gaza is a response to acts of war (including war crimes of indiscriminate attacks).

 

[P F Tinmore]

They are now not under attack at all. If they stopped all the violence there would be no more. The Israelis are not instigating the violence.

Blockading Gaza is an act of War

Blockading Gaza is a response to acts of war (including war crimes of indiscriminate attacks).

Sderot was built on top of the Palestinian village of Najd whose residents were forced into Gaza. Are you saying that those Palestinians have no right to force those people out of their village?

 

[Shusha]

They are now not under attack at all. If they stopped all the violence there would be no more. The Israelis are not instigating the violence.

Occupation, check points and foreign military presence is violence.

Nope. They are a response to violence.

The Palestinians were at home minding their own business when they were attacked by settler colonialists. That attack continues to today.

The Palestinians were at home minding their own business when the indigenous peoples returned and asked to be included in the process of self determination on their ancestral and historic territory.

If the Palestinians had continued to mind their own business instead of denying others their rights there would be no conflict.

 

[P F Tinmore]

They are now not under attack at all. If they stopped all the violence there would be no more. The Israelis are not instigating the violence.

Occupation, check points and foreign military presence is violence.

Nope. They are a response to violence.

The Palestinians were at home minding their own business when they were attacked by settler colonialists. That attack continues to today.

The Palestinians were at home minding their own business when the indigenous peoples returned and asked to be included in the process of self determination on their ancestral and historic territory.

If the Palestinians had continued to mind their own business instead of denying others their rights there would be no conflict.

So if the Palestinians quietly let the settlers steal their stuff there would be no conflict?

I guess there is an element of truth to that.

 

[Shusha]

They are now not under attack at all. If they stopped all the violence there would be no more. The Israelis are not instigating the violence.

Blockading Gaza is an act of War

Blockading Gaza is a response to acts of war (including war crimes of indiscriminate attacks).

Sderot was built on top of the Palestinian village of Najd whose residents were forced into Gaza. Are you saying that those Palestinians have no right to force those people out of their village?

I'm saying that the conflict continues to exist because the presence of Jews on Jewish ancestral and historic territory is seen as a violation and a reason to kill Jews.

The Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque are built on top of the Temple Mount. Are you saying the Jewish people have no right to force the Arab Muslims out of our holy site?

The solution is not to force people (and certainly not by murdering them) back to the way things were at a certain point in time. (Which point in time is best anyway?). But to find a fair and reasonable solution which respects both peoples.