What the media is choosing to ignore about this whole mess: Itself

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I've seen quite a bit of whining from the media about the blowback over this whole Russia circus. Their argument is "well, there were lies, and we had to investigate them".

Well yes, that is certainly fair. But they're pretending that the way they did it was the only way.

Wall to wall "pundits" making this assumption and that assumption; non-stop "breaking news" about the latest "bombshell", a never-ending stream of "panels" full of delirious anti-Trump wingers going full drama queen over every last damn possible rumor. On and on and on. These were CHOICES that YOU made as you "covered" this "story". That's the "investigation" that you "had" to do? Really?

Congratulations, folks. There is only one group of people on the ******* planet who can put Donald J. Trump in the position of a ******* VICTIM, and it's YOU.

So thanks loads. Your maniacal, hyper-partisan crusade just handed him a big win. Not good news for those of us who don't care much for the guy.
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So i am curious...are you saying the media controlled your mind, and made trump a victim in your mind?

 

[Mac1958]

I've seen quite a bit of whining from the media about the blowback over this whole Russia circus. Their argument is "well, there were lies, and we had to investigate them".

Well yes, that is certainly fair. But they're pretending that the way they did it was the only way.

Wall to wall "pundits" making this assumption and that assumption; non-stop "breaking news" about the latest "bombshell", a never-ending stream of "panels" full of delirious anti-Trump wingers going full drama queen over every last damn possible rumor. On and on and on. These were CHOICES that YOU made as you "covered" this "story". That's the "investigation" that you "had" to do? Really?

Congratulations, folks. There is only one group of people on the ******* planet who can put Donald J. Trump in the position of a ******* VICTIM, and it's YOU.

So thanks loads. Your maniacal, hyper-partisan crusade just handed him a big win. Not good news for those of us who don't care much for the guy.
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So i am curious...are you saying the media controlled your mind, and made trump a victim in your mind?

Nope.

Why are you trying to deflect from the media's behaviors?

Don't worry, it's a rhetorical question.
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[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why are you trying to deflect from the media's behaviors?

Im not, it was just the question that arose in my head. Lots of people behave badly. You are making/implying special claims about the influence of the behavior at issue.

Now,the follow up questions: whose minds do you think the media controls? And how is it that you have the ability to resist this mind control, but others do not?

 

[DOTR]

And as far as free press or free speech...they work actively to suppress it.
What CNN's Threat to Dox a Redditor Tells Us About the State of Journalism

Dershowitz nails it: Alan Dershowitz: How CNN misled its viewers

"Being perceived as a Trump legal defender, even though I publicly disagreed with many of his policies, was a cardinal sin for a liberal Democrat. It would confuse CNN’s viewers at a time when one had to be either for or against Trump. It was as if I were a Red Sox fan on the Yankee network. Today, everyone has to pick a team — Trump or anti-Trump — and picking the side of the Constitution and civil liberties just doesn’t do it."

People have to "pick a side" now, like it's recess on the kindergarten playground. Independent thought is just too hard, mommy.
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What if Trump is the Katechon? Serious question. Many of us view him in that light.

For years the politicians ran a game called “I’m not a politician.” Every election each side’s career politicians vied with each other to be the “outsider”. It was like the twilight zone.

Now we have an outsider. An amateur. A citizen President. And it has driven them insane.

 

[Mac1958]

Why are you trying to deflect from the media's behaviors?

Im not, it was just the question that arose in my head. Lots of people behave badly. You are making/implying special claims about the influence of the behavior at issue.

Now,the follow up questions: whose minds do you think the media controls? And how is it that you have the ability to resist this mind control, but others do not?

You're continuing with the transparent deflection. If you would like to start another thread on this, please do so, invite me, and I'll be happy to participate.

The fact that you're going out of your way to minimize this and change the subject tells me where you stand, so I do appreciate that, however.
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[Mac1958]

And as far as free press or free speech...they work actively to suppress it.
What CNN's Threat to Dox a Redditor Tells Us About the State of Journalism

Dershowitz nails it: Alan Dershowitz: How CNN misled its viewers

"Being perceived as a Trump legal defender, even though I publicly disagreed with many of his policies, was a cardinal sin for a liberal Democrat. It would confuse CNN’s viewers at a time when one had to be either for or against Trump. It was as if I were a Red Sox fan on the Yankee network. Today, everyone has to pick a team — Trump or anti-Trump — and picking the side of the Constitution and civil liberties just doesn’t do it."

People have to "pick a side" now, like it's recess on the kindergarten playground. Independent thought is just too hard, mommy.
.

What if Trump is the Katechon? Serious question. Many of us view him in that light.

For years the politicians ran a game called “I’m not a politician.” Every election each side’s career politicians vied with each other to be the “outsider”. It was like the twilight zone.

Now we have an outsider. An amateur. A citizen President. And it has driven them insane.

Well, if you look at Trump in some kind of biblical way, I can't help you there.

I'm pretty much embarrassed by the behaviors from both ends right now.
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[Olde Europe]

Not quite sure he realizes it, but it's still nice to watch Taibbi (whom I like) being subtly schooled on "the media":

Taibbi: Despite episodes like that, we’ve had so many that were similar. Take the Iraq War: WMD you could have seen through, I thought, from the very beginning.

Chomsky: There are still people who believe there were WMDs.

Taibbi: And of course that story turned out very badly for the media. Do you think all that blatant deception resulted in a situation where people were willing to believe somebody like Trump –

Chomsky: Over the media?

Taibbi: Yes.

Chomsky: Well, I think it’s true. Although, honestly, I think one of the unfortunate effects of Manufacturing Consent is that a lot of people who’ve read it say, “Well, we can’t trust the media.” But that’s not exactly what it said. If you want to get information, sure, read the New York Times, but read it with your eyes open. With a critical mind. The Times is full of facts. You’re not going to find the information there on Facebook.

[...]

Taibbi: But that’s one of the developments, isn’t it? That the media increasingly are viewed as an institution, whereas previously this was not so much the case?

Chomsky: Oh, they are. Because Trump is very effective in terms of eliciting anti-institutional furor against the media, making media the enemy, which is a clever trick. He’s a good politician.​

There is, actually, a not so very fine line between taking "the media" to account for errors, bearing in mind the First Draft of History is never error-free, and mindless, destructive media-bashing. Taibbi had reason to know that line, but...

Nobody wants to hear this, but news that Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller is headed home without issuing new charges is a death-blow for the reputation of the American news media.​

While the article is worth a read, this is not "read the New York Times, but read it with your eyes open. With a critical mind." This is blindly trashing "the media" (as if that weren't a bunch as diverse as one would imagine), amplifying Trump's mendacious "enemy of the people" propaganda.

 

[DOTR]

Is not poison gas a weapon of mass destruction as defined internationally?

 

[DOTR]

And as far as free press or free speech...they work actively to suppress it.
What CNN's Threat to Dox a Redditor Tells Us About the State of Journalism

Dershowitz nails it: Alan Dershowitz: How CNN misled its viewers

"Being perceived as a Trump legal defender, even though I publicly disagreed with many of his policies, was a cardinal sin for a liberal Democrat. It would confuse CNN’s viewers at a time when one had to be either for or against Trump. It was as if I were a Red Sox fan on the Yankee network. Today, everyone has to pick a team — Trump or anti-Trump — and picking the side of the Constitution and civil liberties just doesn’t do it."

People have to "pick a side" now, like it's recess on the kindergarten playground. Independent thought is just too hard, mommy.
.

What if Trump is the Katechon? Serious question. Many of us view him in that light.

For years the politicians ran a game called “I’m not a politician.” Every election each side’s career politicians vied with each other to be the “outsider”. It was like the twilight zone.

Now we have an outsider. An amateur. A citizen President. And it has driven them insane.

Well, if you look at Trump in some kind of biblical way, I can't help you there.

I'm pretty much embarrassed by the behaviors from both ends right now.
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Does that lock you up or something? There may or may not be a Biblical perspective. I’m talking in a more general sense. Such as how the liberal media calls any office they want to see established a “czar”. (Obama even appointed an “Ebola czar”)
Back to nature

Obama will name Ron Klain as Ebola czar - CNN.com

(On a side note over 300 million Christians believe that Tsar Nicholas II was the last biblical Katechon )

Lots of us see Trump as all that stands between normalcy and leftist insanity regardless of his politics.

 

[DOTR]

And as far as free press or free speech...they work actively to suppress it.
What CNN's Threat to Dox a Redditor Tells Us About the State of Journalism

Dershowitz nails it: Alan Dershowitz: How CNN misled its viewers

"Being perceived as a Trump legal defender, even though I publicly disagreed with many of his policies, was a cardinal sin for a liberal Democrat. It would confuse CNN’s viewers at a time when one had to be either for or against Trump. It was as if I were a Red Sox fan on the Yankee network. Today, everyone has to pick a team — Trump or anti-Trump — and picking the side of the Constitution and civil liberties just doesn’t do it."

People have to "pick a side" now, like it's recess on the kindergarten playground. Independent thought is just too hard, mommy.
.

What if Trump is the Katechon? Serious question. Many of us view him in that light.

For years the politicians ran a game called “I’m not a politician.” Every election each side’s career politicians vied with each other to be the “outsider”. It was like the twilight zone.

Now we have an outsider. An amateur. A citizen President. And it has driven them insane.

Well, if you look at Trump in some kind of biblical way, I can't help you there.

I'm pretty much embarrassed by the behaviors from both ends right now.
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You remind me of this...

 

[Mac1958]

This guy says that Trump has MADE the media behave this way:

Does the media owe Trump an apology?

It’s not that I think Trump has a lot of redeeming qualities as a president. It’s that I think we’ve been played.

But Trump very skillfully drew us into a fight. He cast the “fake news” as his enemy, and we responded exactly as he knew we would — in kind. He goaded us into becoming outright advocates, into jeopardizing what little remained of our public trust.

And now we’re playing to our own audience, just like him.

This is Trump’s superpower. He has an innate talent for bringing out the worst versions of everyone else, so that everyone ends up as compromised as he is, or at least somewhere on the continuum.
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[skookerasbil]

The loose association stooges got pwn'd.

Cable news fakery outlets already taking a hit and that's after nobody was watching anyway!

 

[Weatherman2020]

I've seen quite a bit of whining from the media about the blowback over this whole Russia circus. Their argument is "well, there were lies, and we had to investigate them".

Well yes, that is certainly fair. But they're pretending that the way they did it was the only way.

Wall to wall "pundits" making this assumption and that assumption; non-stop "breaking news" about the latest "bombshell", a never-ending stream of "panels" full of delirious anti-Trump wingers going full drama queen over every last damn possible rumor. On and on and on. These were CHOICES that YOU made as you "covered" this "story". That's the "investigation" that you "had" to do? Really?

Congratulations, folks. There is only one group of people on the ******* planet who can put Donald J. Trump in the position of a ******* VICTIM, and it's YOU.

So thanks loads. Your maniacal, hyper-partisan crusade just handed him a big win. Not good news for those of us who don't care much for the guy.
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Insane people never consider themselves to be a problem.

 

[Weatherman2020]

The media has spent the last 48 hours asking itself what it did wrong and what it could have done differently.

Is there ever a Mac1958 ”hot take” that has a basis in reality?

Link?

I didn’t think so.

More Leftist lies.

 

[Mac1958]

The media has spent the last 48 hours asking itself what it did wrong and what it could have done differently.

Is there ever a Mac1958 ”hot take” that has a basis in reality?

Link?

I didn’t think so.

More Leftist lies.

Yep. They've done little of that. The guy in the link above comes close, thankfully.

But their sycophants must cover for them, no matter how obvious the lie is.
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[LoneLaugher]

The media has spent the last 48 hours asking itself what it did wrong and what it could have done differently.

Is there ever a Mac1958 ”hot take” that has a basis in reality?

Link?

I didn’t think so.

More Leftist lies.

Mac provided links in this thread.

Dummy.

 

[Mac1958]

I've seen quite a bit of whining from the media about the blowback over this whole Russia circus. Their argument is "well, there were lies, and we had to investigate them".

Well yes, that is certainly fair. But they're pretending that the way they did it was the only way.

Wall to wall "pundits" making this assumption and that assumption; non-stop "breaking news" about the latest "bombshell", a never-ending stream of "panels" full of delirious anti-Trump wingers going full drama queen over every last damn possible rumor. On and on and on. These were CHOICES that YOU made as you "covered" this "story". That's the "investigation" that you "had" to do? Really?

Congratulations, folks. There is only one group of people on the ******* planet who can put Donald J. Trump in the position of a ******* VICTIM, and it's YOU.

So thanks loads. Your maniacal, hyper-partisan crusade just handed him a big win. Not good news for those of us who don't care much for the guy.
.

Insane people never consider themselves to be a problem.

He's complimenting Trump in a back-handed way.

Most of them are just denying and deflecting.
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[Weatherman2020]

I've seen quite a bit of whining from the media about the blowback over this whole Russia circus. Their argument is "well, there were lies, and we had to investigate them".

Well yes, that is certainly fair. But they're pretending that the way they did it was the only way.

Wall to wall "pundits" making this assumption and that assumption; non-stop "breaking news" about the latest "bombshell", a never-ending stream of "panels" full of delirious anti-Trump wingers going full drama queen over every last damn possible rumor. On and on and on. These were CHOICES that YOU made as you "covered" this "story". That's the "investigation" that you "had" to do? Really?

Congratulations, folks. There is only one group of people on the ******* planet who can put Donald J. Trump in the position of a ******* VICTIM, and it's YOU.

So thanks loads. Your maniacal, hyper-partisan crusade just handed him a big win. Not good news for those of us who don't care much for the guy.
.

Insane people never consider themselves to be a problem.

He's complimenting Trump in a back-handed way.

Most of them are just denying and deflecting.
.

One commentator. I’m referring to MSM as a whole and they remain fixiated that Trump is a Russian spy.

 

[Mac1958]

I've seen quite a bit of whining from the media about the blowback over this whole Russia circus. Their argument is "well, there were lies, and we had to investigate them".

Well yes, that is certainly fair. But they're pretending that the way they did it was the only way.

Wall to wall "pundits" making this assumption and that assumption; non-stop "breaking news" about the latest "bombshell", a never-ending stream of "panels" full of delirious anti-Trump wingers going full drama queen over every last damn possible rumor. On and on and on. These were CHOICES that YOU made as you "covered" this "story". That's the "investigation" that you "had" to do? Really?

Congratulations, folks. There is only one group of people on the ******* planet who can put Donald J. Trump in the position of a ******* VICTIM, and it's YOU.

So thanks loads. Your maniacal, hyper-partisan crusade just handed him a big win. Not good news for those of us who don't care much for the guy.
.

Insane people never consider themselves to be a problem.

He's complimenting Trump in a back-handed way.

Most of them are just denying and deflecting.
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One commentator. I’m referring to MSM as a whole and they remain fixiated that Trump is a Russian spy.

Yes, agreed.

They're beginning to shift their focus to the New York investigations as well, because they feel they smell blood.
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[MarcATL]

Yeah, that lie is frequently tossed out by wingers trying to change the subject.

So it's addressed in the second line of my sig.

And thank you for being you!
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Whatever hack, spare me your BS.

Learn some history instead...



And if you don't care for the historical context, just take in the events live....