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Its in the Privacy Clause.Our Constitution says nothing about conversion therapy
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Its in the Privacy Clause.Our Constitution says nothing about conversion therapy
Well at LEAST you admit your last comment was bullsh#t. Now you want to divert from mental therapy to surgical therapy.Freud preformed surgery? You got a link for that?Because THAT "therapy" is seen as brutal NOT the mental illness.Can you take your child to have an ice-pick lobotomy because you don't like their sexual orientation? No. Why is that?
Just as brutal as Freud taking the penis of a heterosexual male and attaching it to a gay man. Just as brutal as electric shock therapy.
Now, you can feel free to have an opinion and spend your time praying the gay away if you must. But, AS A TYPE OF THERAPY IT HAS BEEN DISCREDITED.
http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/therapeutic-response.pdf
Not Freud, Steinach. Sorry 'bout that. Steinach botched a penis transplant.
Homosexuality - The Testicles
Which of course changes the topic of the OP to fit your agenda.
The TOPIC is mental therapy.
This is the latest conservative lie, a demonstration of rightwing ignorance, bigotry, and stupidity.The latest liberal trend is to ban "conversion therapy for children". Regardless of what you think of it, the reality is that liberals are banning an opinion because they don't approve of it. That's a first amendment violation. Andrew Cuomo is banning it in NY. Hillary Clinton praised him for doing it. How can hillary take the oath of office if she just celebrated a deliberate violation of the first amendment?
I fucking can't stand the westboro baptist church and their funeral protests, but they have a first amendment right to do it, and they can't be prevented from doing it. Yet here, liberals banned conversion therapy. Same violation of first amendment.
Heck, I'm curious, if libs think they can ban opinions they don't agree with, why did they chose to ban conversion therapy before banning NAMBLA? Heck I haven't even seem them suggesting they want to ban NAMBLA.
It is still opinion/speech, which cannot be banned simply because you don't approve of it. Or do you think it's fine for me to ban LGBT speech in schools because I don't approve of it?This is the latest conservative lie, a demonstration of rightwing ignorance, bigotry, and stupidity.The latest liberal trend is to ban "conversion therapy for children". Regardless of what you think of it, the reality is that liberals are banning an opinion because they don't approve of it. That's a first amendment violation. Andrew Cuomo is banning it in NY. Hillary Clinton praised him for doing it. How can hillary take the oath of office if she just celebrated a deliberate violation of the first amendment?
I fucking can't stand the westboro baptist church and their funeral protests, but they have a first amendment right to do it, and they can't be prevented from doing it. Yet here, liberals banned conversion therapy. Same violation of first amendment.
Heck, I'm curious, if libs think they can ban opinions they don't agree with, why did they chose to ban conversion therapy before banning NAMBLA? Heck I haven't even seem them suggesting they want to ban NAMBLA.
"Conversion therapy for children" has nothing whatsoever to do with the First Amendment; its prohibition is warranted and justified given the fact such 'therapy' is reckless, irresponsible, and devoid of merit – being gay is not a 'mental illness,' where the notion of a 'cure' is bigoted idiocy.
Even those who administered this 'therapy' admit that they were wrong:
Psychiatrist who championed 'gay cure' admits he was wrong
The OP and other bigots remain at liberty to express their ignorance and hate concerning gay Americans, protected by the First Amendment; but there is no First Amendment 'right' for medical providers to practice in a manner harmful to members of society as a whole, where government regulation of such harmful practices is both appropriate and Constitutional.
Clearly the "therapy" liberals want for trannies doesn't work. They are still highly sucidal, depressed. Would libs be fine with banning that therapy or do only smug liberals get to decide what gets banned and what doesn't because they don't approve?
Wrong.So you are saying that the state has a greater RIGHT then you to decide YOUR child's sexual orientation? Interesting.Who has control over raising your child? You or the state?It's psychiatric "care" that allegedly can convert someone's sexual orientation.What in hell is conversion therapy?
Tell the truth. It's a type of treatment that has used electroshock therapy etc. to change someone's sexual orientation based upon lgbt are mentally ill. It is a pseudoscience that has been discredited for some time. It doesn't work and does irreparable harm. Hence, discredited.
It can be limited by the state. You know this. You don't have to like it but there it is.
Another straw man fallacy and ridiculous lie.Clearly the "therapy" liberals want for trannies doesn't work. They are still highly sucidal, depressed. Would libs be fine with banning that therapy or do only smug liberals get to decide what gets banned and what doesn't because they don't approve?