Again, the right of a 9 month old fetus to be born, does not give it some entitlement to live. Just because it can, does not mean it will. And it does not mean that the parents and doctors and taxpayers all have to pay to put that child through resuscitation methods, and life support, if things don't go as planned, either. Technology is not a fucking entitlement, and neither is the state of being or BECOMING (in this case) alive.
The problem is you have zero credible basis for any of this. You can't claim a potential 'being' isn't entitled to live, less so than an actual being, without defing what a potential being is in the first place. The fact of the matter is simply this. You would not condone the murder of an innocent human being. You happen to also hold a belief that woman should also have the right to choose whenever for whatever reason. Somehow those two things must be reconciled. So you have chosen to to define an unborn child as less than a human being. Problem solved. Problem is just because you want it to be that way doesn't make it so.
If people are not prosecuted/ investigated for having a late term miscarriage, then they shouldnt be prosecuted for having an abortion. This is because a fetus is in fact prone to ceasing from continuing its existence in the uterus at any given time. A right to life is not an entitlement to live. This is a fact, and you simply do not want to face it. Semantics is another story- I refuse to argue in circles about this though. I simply refuse to allow you to play the semantics game just because you feel that a fertilized egg is a fucking person.
But let's assume it does. Unfortunately your argument above is a contradiction in of itself. After all if one is not entitled to technology that helps one become a being, how can they also be entited to use technology to prevent one from being?
HA I knew you would say that. I must be psychic. You and the semantics game. Geez.
It all comes down to "take the risk, suffer the consequence" right? As if women are the sexual gatekeepers, which we are not.
Nothing AT ALL, in this world, is entitled to the use of my body, to grow. PERIOD. I am, however, an autonomous being, and can do any number of things, including doing a belly flop off of a high dive, to cause that pregnancy to cease. This is a fact. This is exactly what I would do if I didn't want a pregnancy, and abortion was made illegal. And in the first few weeks, I would accompany this activity with a hearty helping of Vitamin C and Paprika, both of which can induce miscarriage in the first few weeks. THAT is the point to all of this. Even if technology is unavailable, it is not REQUIRED to have an induced miscarriage. So, the fetus is not entitled to it, and neither are women.. but that does not make the fetus autonomous, or the woman any less autonomous. The fetus is PRONE to the fact that it is inside of the woman. The woman might not even know it exists.. So if she goes a' climbing and takes a little fall of 15 feet, and her belly hits the rock wall, then bam its all over for your dear innocent little fetusmeister. Too bad so sad.
Also, I do not claim that the fetus is a non human. It simply is not a human "being". I do not agree that any woman who were to choose to destroy the fetus's capability of surviving on its own outside of the uterus, just seconds before it is born, or days, even, is humane or moral. I am not an AMORAL person. I simply understand that different people make choices that are immoral and that I disagree with all the time, and "how bad" that choice is, is entirely subjective.
This is purely semantics. A desperate and disgusting attempt to reconcile, irreconcilable beliefs. How is a human less being (first I hope you read that twice and listen to how absolutely ridiculous it sounds) before it is out of the womb than after?
Again, I am not the one playing semantics here- you are. I think it is disgusting to choose this, also.
I also think it is disgusting to lie and to cheat, to steal, and to fantasize about women who are not your wife, to beat on women, to get beat on, etc..
I could care less whether the world's belief was that a fetus was a human being before it is born or was not. It still is in the woman's body and as such, is prone to the ceasement of growth, by her life decisions that SHE is ALWAYS allowed to make.
Also, 10 seconds before it comes out, or the head to toe thing, as long as it has NOT taken a breath of air yet, it can technically GO BACK INSIDE, and grow a little while longer. This is entirely possible, as we have seen in videos of fetal surgery.
If it HAS taken a breath, it cannot go back inside, because it is a fully autonomous human being and individual at that point.
Reconcile that to yourself, and stop living in some kind of odd fantasy world where embryos can be adopted without the mother's body encasing it, as well.
Lets talk about sin, for instance. You pro lifers are always talking about the "innocent" life- and that is very much a religious deal for you..
But when was the last time you lied? I fucking HATE liars. So does God. Just as much as he hates murderers. Believe it. He wrote the fucking commandments, not you.
When was the last time you looked at a person of the opposite sex and even imagined having sex with them?? That is a fucking sin, too, by God.
When was the last time you slept with a married or divorced woman? Sin!!
When was the last time you wished you had something that someone else has, or said "Must be nice!!!" Sin sin sin....
When was the last time you advocated for the death penalty? Wrath- another sin.
When was the last time you said "God Damnit!!" Sinner.
Don't you DARE try to compare ABORTION (which is not at all murder, the biiiiiible telllllllllls meeee sooooo) or MURDER (an actual sin) to any of the other deadly sins, you fucking hypocrite.
Quoting scriptuire or christianity only works under the assumption that the person you are debating actually defines themselves as a christian. You assumed incorrectly. My sense of right and wrong doesn't come from some book or religion.
Murder is simply defined. The taking of an innocent life. It is you that is playing semantic games so you can sleep at night and tell yourself I didn't kill a human being, I didn't kill a human being. As I said before anyone who can and believe it, shoudl ask themselves whether they themselves deserve to be counted among us human beings.
Dollface- even those who are not "innocent" can be murdered.
This is how I know your claim stems from a religious POV.
Also, Murder is a legal term, and not what happens when a pregnancy ceases to exist.
I didnt kill anything, lol.. I saw a blob of (growing) tissue that was ready to be removed from MY UTERUS. I paid some doctors to have it removed, and am thankful that I did. I actually sleep quite well, thanks. =)
Fuck off if you want to be abusive and call women who choose when to have children murderers and assume that they should lose sleep over it or suddenly be counted as anything less than human beings. You are only saying those things because your words come from an emotional kneejerk reaction to abortion, and a longing to control and continue to abuse women as a whole. You are an abuser. Merry Christmas, and may God have mercy on your soul.
