“What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?”

[Dschrute3]

Seriously folks, you're gonna die from anything but an AR. The Communists/Democrats are just exploiting dead folks again. Nothing new there. It's just more shameful fear mongering to get an agenda through. I'm gonna go ahead and err on the side of the Constitution. I'll keep my firearms.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Lousy management. Hoover Dam was ahead of schedule and under budget.

I always get a hoot of these fringe characters, with their attacking everyone because they are socialist and suggest that The private sector would have a chance against Government when it comes to running 3/4 of what the government runs. And the enemy of this country is regulations, That's just funny. What would be the new life expectancy of workers or the Military be, if it was run with a profit motive and no regulations, These people are clowns. Without regulation the American corporation would eat are children for a profit . How do I know because that is exactly what they did before regulations

The private sector is more efficient than government always has been always will be because unlike the government the private sector doesn't have a blank check or hundreds of millions of people to take money from

why not privatize our socialized wars on crime, drugs, and terror?

Hey Dory you forgot again that I have said we should abolish the war on drugs

no, just asking the right wing; why they can't "keep a steady course", regarding their republican doctrine.

No political organization keeps a steady course

You haven't learned that yet?

 

[danielpalos]

Seriously folks, you're gonna die from anything but an AR. The Communists/Democrats are just exploiting dead folks again. Nothing new there. It's just more shameful fear mongering to get an agenda through. I'm gonna go ahead and err on the side of the Constitution. I'll keep my firearms.

how many casualties per incident, whenever an AR type weapon is involved?

 

[danielpalos]

I always get a hoot of these fringe characters, with their attacking everyone because they are socialist and suggest that The private sector would have a chance against Government when it comes to running 3/4 of what the government runs. And the enemy of this country is regulations, That's just funny. What would be the new life expectancy of workers or the Military be, if it was run with a profit motive and no regulations, These people are clowns. Without regulation the American corporation would eat are children for a profit . How do I know because that is exactly what they did before regulations

The private sector is more efficient than government always has been always will be because unlike the government the private sector doesn't have a blank check or hundreds of millions of people to take money from

why not privatize our socialized wars on crime, drugs, and terror?

Hey Dory you forgot again that I have said we should abolish the war on drugs

no, just asking the right wing; why they can't "keep a steady course", regarding their republican doctrine.

No political organization keeps a steady course

You haven't learned that yet?

The republican doctrine only seems to apply when it is about the poor.

 

[jbander]

Literally, well regulated militia of the United States

And, it LITERALLY says, "being necessary for the security of a free STATE" not the United States.

A States' sovereign right, expressly declared.

The court interprets the constitution, the court can regulate firearms, the court has regulated firearms and the court will regulate firearms in the future.

Only Congress is delegated the power to do that.

No clue buddy , none. That simply make you 100% wrong.

 

[Pop23]

Seriously folks, you're gonna die from anything but an AR. The Communists/Democrats are just exploiting dead folks again. Nothing new there. It's just more shameful fear mongering to get an agenda through. I'm gonna go ahead and err on the side of the Constitution. I'll keep my firearms.

how many casualties per incident, whenever an AR type weapon is involved?

Probably average less than those that box cutters are used. And Rental Trucks.

 

[danielpalos]

Literally, well regulated militia of the United States

And, it LITERALLY says, "being necessary for the security of a free STATE" not the United States.

A States' sovereign right, expressly declared.

The court interprets the constitution, the court can regulate firearms, the court has regulated firearms and the court will regulate firearms in the future.

Only Congress is delegated the power to do that.

No clue buddy , none. That simply make you 100% wrong.

only in right wing fantasy.

 

[danielpalos]

Seriously folks, you're gonna die from anything but an AR. The Communists/Democrats are just exploiting dead folks again. Nothing new there. It's just more shameful fear mongering to get an agenda through. I'm gonna go ahead and err on the side of the Constitution. I'll keep my firearms.

how many casualties per incident, whenever an AR type weapon is involved?

Probably average less than those that box cutters are used. And Rental Trucks.

are hammers, really twice as good?

 

[Pop23]

Seriously folks, you're gonna die from anything but an AR. The Communists/Democrats are just exploiting dead folks again. Nothing new there. It's just more shameful fear mongering to get an agenda through. I'm gonna go ahead and err on the side of the Constitution. I'll keep my firearms.

how many casualties per incident, whenever an AR type weapon is involved?

Probably average less than those that box cutters are used. And Rental Trucks.

are hammers, really twice as good?

Proof that you don’t care about body count.

You only care about the tool.

Your argument has been disqualified as you can’t make the tool the public health issue.

Thanks

 

[danielpalos]

Seriously folks, you're gonna die from anything but an AR. The Communists/Democrats are just exploiting dead folks again. Nothing new there. It's just more shameful fear mongering to get an agenda through. I'm gonna go ahead and err on the side of the Constitution. I'll keep my firearms.

how many casualties per incident, whenever an AR type weapon is involved?

Probably average less than those that box cutters are used. And Rental Trucks.

are hammers, really twice as good?

Proof that you don’t care about body count.

You only care about the tool.

Your argument has been disqualified as you can’t make the tool the public health issue.

Thanks

are the statistics in, yet?

 

[Pop23]

Seriously folks, you're gonna die from anything but an AR. The Communists/Democrats are just exploiting dead folks again. Nothing new there. It's just more shameful fear mongering to get an agenda through. I'm gonna go ahead and err on the side of the Constitution. I'll keep my firearms.

how many casualties per incident, whenever an AR type weapon is involved?

Probably average less than those that box cutters are used. And Rental Trucks.

are hammers, really twice as good?

Proof that you don’t care about body count.

You only care about the tool.

Your argument has been disqualified as you can’t make the tool the public health issue.

Thanks

are the statistics in, yet?

Not necessary.

Prove that, whatever the number, the same could not be achieved lacking the particular tool.

Cant? Then the tool is not the issue.

Checkmate.

 

[jbander]

And, it LITERALLY says, "being necessary for the security of a free STATE" not the United States.

A States' sovereign right, expressly declared.

The court interprets the constitution, the court can regulate firearms, the court has regulated firearms and the court will regulate firearms in the future.

Only Congress is delegated the power to do that.

No clue buddy , none. That simply make you 100% wrong.

only in right wing fantasy.

Does anyone here have a idea where this guys head is. it seems to wonder irrationally all over the place.

 

[2aguy]

Seriously folks, you're gonna die from anything but an AR. The Communists/Democrats are just exploiting dead folks again. Nothing new there. It's just more shameful fear mongering to get an agenda through. I'm gonna go ahead and err on the side of the Constitution. I'll keep my firearms.

how many casualties per incident, whenever an AR type weapon is involved?

Less than when a truck is used....

Vegas shooting, 2 rifles, fired from a concealed and fortified position, into a crowd of over 22,000 people in a tightly packed arena, firing over 1,000 rounds...... 58 murdered.

Rental van driven by muslim terrorist in Nice, France... 86 murdered.

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Waffle house in tennessee, 1 ar-15 rifle... 4 dead 4 wounded.

Rental truck, muslim terrorist in Toronto.... 10 dead, 15 injured.

Lawn mowers also kill more people every single year than mass shooters with AR-15 rifles...

Lawn mowers...on average 75 killed a year

mass shooters with ar-15 rifles, less than 58, and that was the worst attack......and it was an outlier....

 

[Pop23]

Seriously folks, you're gonna die from anything but an AR. The Communists/Democrats are just exploiting dead folks again. Nothing new there. It's just more shameful fear mongering to get an agenda through. I'm gonna go ahead and err on the side of the Constitution. I'll keep my firearms.

how many casualties per incident, whenever an AR type weapon is involved?

Less than when a truck is used....

Vegas shooting, 2 rifles, fired from a concealed and fortified position, into a crowd of over 22,000 people in a tightly packed arena, firing over 1,000 rounds...... 58 murdered.

Rental van driven by muslim terrorist in Nice, France... 86 murdered.

--------

Waffle house in tennessee, 1 ar-15 rifle... 4 dead 4 wounded.

Rental truck, muslim terrorist in Toronto.... 10 dead, 15 injured.

Lawn mowers also kill more people every single year than mass shooters with AR-15 rifles...

Lawn mowers...on average 75 killed a year

mass shooters with ar-15 rifles, less than 58, and that was the worst attack......and it was an outlier....

It’s really this simple:

Remove the man from the equation and there can be no body count

Remove the tool from the equation and there can still be a body count as man controls tool(s)

Tool is not a prerequisite to body count. Man is.

And there are many more tools than an AR style rifle that can inflict far greater body counts.

Game over.

 

[danielpalos]

how many casualties per incident, whenever an AR type weapon is involved?

Probably average less than those that box cutters are used. And Rental Trucks.

are hammers, really twice as good?

Proof that you don’t care about body count.

You only care about the tool.

Your argument has been disqualified as you can’t make the tool the public health issue.

Thanks

are the statistics in, yet?

Not necessary.

Prove that, whatever the number, the same could not be achieved lacking the particular tool.

Cant? Then the tool is not the issue.

Checkmate.

i prefer objective, market based metrics to right wing propaganda, everyday.

 

[2aguy]

Probably average less than those that box cutters are used. And Rental Trucks.

are hammers, really twice as good?

Proof that you don’t care about body count.

You only care about the tool.

Your argument has been disqualified as you can’t make the tool the public health issue.

Thanks

are the statistics in, yet?

Not necessary.

Prove that, whatever the number, the same could not be achieved lacking the particular tool.

Cant? Then the tool is not the issue.

Checkmate.

i prefer objective, market based metrics to right wing propaganda, everyday.

And your answer makes no sense.

 

[danielpalos]

Seriously folks, you're gonna die from anything but an AR. The Communists/Democrats are just exploiting dead folks again. Nothing new there. It's just more shameful fear mongering to get an agenda through. I'm gonna go ahead and err on the side of the Constitution. I'll keep my firearms.

how many casualties per incident, whenever an AR type weapon is involved?

Less than when a truck is used....

Vegas shooting, 2 rifles, fired from a concealed and fortified position, into a crowd of over 22,000 people in a tightly packed arena, firing over 1,000 rounds...... 58 murdered.

Rental van driven by muslim terrorist in Nice, France... 86 murdered.

--------

Waffle house in tennessee, 1 ar-15 rifle... 4 dead 4 wounded.

Rental truck, muslim terrorist in Toronto.... 10 dead, 15 injured.

Lawn mowers also kill more people every single year than mass shooters with AR-15 rifles...

Lawn mowers...on average 75 killed a year

mass shooters with ar-15 rifles, less than 58, and that was the worst attack......and it was an outlier....

can it get better?

 

[Pop23]

are hammers, really twice as good?

Proof that you don’t care about body count.

You only care about the tool.

Your argument has been disqualified as you can’t make the tool the public health issue.

Thanks

are the statistics in, yet?

Not necessary.

Prove that, whatever the number, the same could not be achieved lacking the particular tool.

Cant? Then the tool is not the issue.

Checkmate.

i prefer objective, market based metrics to right wing propaganda, everyday.

And your answer makes no sense.

He knows it. He also knows that his argument has been shredded.

 

[jbander]

Seriously folks, you're gonna die from anything but an AR. The Communists/Democrats are just exploiting dead folks again. Nothing new there. It's just more shameful fear mongering to get an agenda through. I'm gonna go ahead and err on the side of the Constitution. I'll keep my firearms.

how many casualties per incident, whenever an AR type weapon is involved?

Less than when a truck is used....

Vegas shooting, 2 rifles, fired from a concealed and fortified position, into a crowd of over 22,000 people in a tightly packed arena, firing over 1,000 rounds...... 58 murdered.

Rental van driven by muslim terrorist in Nice, France... 86 murdered.

--------

Waffle house in tennessee, 1 ar-15 rifle... 4 dead 4 wounded.

Rental truck, muslim terrorist in Toronto.... 10 dead, 15 injured.

Lawn mowers also kill more people every single year than mass shooters with AR-15 rifles...

Lawn mowers...on average 75 killed a year

mass shooters with ar-15 rifles, less than 58, and that was the worst attack......and it was an outlier....[/QUOTE Boy you people are air heads, blithering nonsense, assault weapons are the weapons of choice for all mass murderers. You guys buy them to show how big your rocks are. but your puny in character and brains.

 

[OKTexas]

To repeat.... this rifle has never been used by the military. It has never been used in a war. It is not a weapon of war. It is the exact same rifle as all other semi automatic rifles, and as well, every semi automatic pistol and shotgun.......no difference in how they operate.....and you can even call revolvers semi automatic weapons as well...

There have been millions of these rifles in private hands since they came out.....and only a few are used a year for crime or murder..

In fact....more people are killed by lawn mowers every single year than are killed each year by any mass public shooter with an AR-15 rifle..... If you want to save more lives, ban lawn mowers.....

Bullshit you have no clue and anyone can find that out with ten minutes of looking into it. The AR-15 is based on the 7.62 mm AR-10 designed by Eugene Stoner, as a military weapons from day one , it was made to compete for the major Government contract. It was then advise that they wanted to move to the 5.56 version because the military saw that as the direction they wanted , so Armulite to get the contract converted the AR-10 to the smaller shell and ultimately it was designed as the AR-15. As requested by the military . When it was the AR-15 4000 were ordered by the air force , and they must of likes it so they ordered 45, 000 more all during that time it was the AR-15. So point bein, don't ever believe what this gun expert has to say about any gun, he has no clue, which I've shown in literally every one of my responses to him. There is no group that I have dealt with that know less about their subject of choice as these Gun Bubbas.
By the way Stoners family said after he had died and the AR-15 came under pressure , that this gun was never designed to be used by the public , it was designed for the military from day one. and he would roll over in his grave to find out these stupid gun Bubbas like to make hamburger out of anything they shoot with it.

AR15s are not assault weapons, they are sporting rifles...
Bathtubs kill more Americans than people using ar15’s...
Progressives don’t get to pick which firearms are legal and which ones are not... Because they are incredibly ignorant on the subject...

One must consider Rustic's conclusion on ignorance, since his entire body of work on this message board is built on his personal biases and alternate facts.

Consideration, however, does not become acceptance. Only others whose sense of reality is formed by their biases accept his judgments; others who observe reality with an open mind, empathy and able to see issues sagaciously before making a judgment.

In this matter only the gun is factored into the thinking of those who believe the 2nd A. is an absolute right, and under no conditions can it be infringed. This is an example of an alternate fact belied by reality, and supported by the ignorance of others.

Lets check your sense of reality and see where your biases lay. So if you would please answer the following:

By way of example, you get a call from your daughter that she just fought off a rapist who told her that he was going to kill her after (details not appropriate for this forum) and dump her body somewhere where no one would ever find her. She continued the description by telling you how she fought him off and that the reason she was able to escape was by the use of a weapon.

Which, of the many weapons that she might tell you she used to save her life, would you find unacceptable to have used?

Would you find it unacceptable knowing the weapon she choose to fight off the attack was registered?

Would you find it unacceptable knowing she had no license for it?

Would you find it unacceptable that she completed no government mandated training with it?

Would you find it unacceptable that the weapon she used had a rail on it?

Would you find it unacceptable that it was Military grade?

I think the truth is that you probably wouldn't care. And maybe, most important is that nobody really would care, except perhaps the murderous rapist.

Look forward to your response.

I was trained in the management of assaultive behavior. The basic rule was to survive. Thus, in the above scenario, all of the above are acceptable, when one's life is at risk.

And yet, the use of a gun to kill masses of people for "sport", or when the outcome of killing massive #'s of people - suicide by one's own hand, or cop - has no relationship to your scenario.

A violent attack, by a more powerful person requires techniques which may cause death or permanent injury to the attacker. A pen or pencil used to enter the brain via an eye, can blind, incapacitate or kill an attacker; a blunt instrument used with enough force to the throat or the temple can kill or incapacitate an attacker and one's teeth can be used to maim or cause enough pain to thwart the attacker so as to allow the victim to run, or to become the attacker, using a thumb to the eye is always effective.

And all require you to allow the attacker to get within arms length. Not the best choice, but better than nothing.


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