What Offense Did the Ukrainian People Commit That Caused Them to Be Bombed into Oblivion by The Russian Military at the Command of Putin?

[IDIOCRACY]

In thinking about why Israel is destroying Gaza and killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians, it caused me, in comparison, to wonder why Putin began bombing Ukraine. I honestly could not remember why this all began.

I'm sure we all agree that retaliating for having been attacked and having your citizens abducted and killed is more than reason enough to go after the perpetrators, even if we do not necessarily agree with how they are going about carrying this out. But what I'm struck with at the moment is how Putin was NOT defending Russia, or retaliating for an attack against the country and its people. This wholesale slaughter of innocent people seems to be based on ideology?

Because Ukraine is corrupted by the USA. Lots of shit $ between them, lots of power, just ask Biden, Obama and Trump, for instance. It's obvious.

Because the Demonicrats champion the military complex. Big money in that. All while guys like Putin can't take Democracks seriously, because Democracks are cracked.

Because the USA corrupted Ukraine to seek joining NATO, which can never happen. Sorry, but the west doesn't get to run everything, Russia has to protect their interests; if NATO moved in next door, it poses a great threat to Russia.

Because of land, resources and power, that's how the world works.

Because Americans are stupid as fuck if they don't rehire Trump. A vote for Kamala is a vote for chaos, tax, high inflation and war. Trump can end that war.

 

[AntonToo]

3. “Deaths and injuries to hundreds of thousands of prime work-age Russian men during serious demographic challenges for Russian society.”
Yes, war leads to casualties, on both sides, but the losses are much heavier on the Ukrainian side.

So your justificaiton of hundreds of thousands of young Russian men's lives destroyed by this war of choice is... deaths of Ukrainians?

How fucked in the head do you need to be to say shit like that?

 

[TruthNotBS]

So your justificaiton of hundreds of thousands of young Russian men's lives destroyed by this war of choice is... deaths of Ukrainians?

How fucked in the head do you need to be to say shit like that?

Poke the bear, lose your hand. ​

 

[TruthNotBS]

Who do you think actually buys your bullshit?

Finland and especially Sweeden had no plans to join NATO untill Russian full scale invasion.

Thanks to assholes like you we're now closer to a nuclear war. NATO saber-rattling on Russia's doorstep = WW3. If Russia were doing it to us here, in Mexico or Canada, we would be at war with Mexico or Canada. We wouldn't allow Russia to deploy its military on our border and they're not allowing Anton the imperialist asshole to deploy on their border in Ukraine. It's simple but you're a piece of shit so you refuse to acknowledge that obvious fact. Poke the bear long enough and eventually, you'll lose your hand.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Inflation is down across EU, and the OPPOSITE is happening in Russia, despite mind-blowing 19% interest rate that keeps getting raised every month.

Russia Inflation Rate

Inflation Rate in Russia increased to 10.10 percent in February from 9.90 percent in January of 2025. This page provides - Russia Inflation Rate - actual values, historical data, forecast, chart, statistics, economic calendar and news.

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The annual inflation rate in Russia stood at 9.1% in August 2024, the steepest since February 2023, unchanged from July, but slightly above forecasts of 9%. Prices continued to quicken for services (11.7% vs 11.4% in July) and remained elevated for food products (9.7%, the same as in July). Meanwhile, prices slowed for non-food products (6.1% vs 6.7%). On a monthly basis, consumer prices rose by 0.2% in August, decelerating from a 1.1% increase in the prior month and matching market estimates. source: Federal State Statistics Service​

Inflation is high for everyone. That's not going to stop Russia from biting your hand off if you keep poking it with NATO. Perhaps you'll understand when the ICBMs start flying.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Saved to make fun of later.

We'll have a nuclear war before then and I'll make sure to make fun of you when that happens.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Preying on the weak and defenseless? Sounds more evil than good, to me.


*because Putin is a maniac making offensive nuclear threats and waging a war of vanity

The definition of American exceptionalism. Probably anti-Russian racism.^

So the United States invading Iraq is praying on the weak? The USA a country of over 300 million people invades Iraq, a country of 30 million people which by 2003 loss most of its strong military equipment.

How pathetic are you? We wipe the floor with the Iraqi military in two weeks. They had no chance whatsoever defending themselves.

Point is there’s greater things at play like geopolitics…. Not some stupid anti-Russian soundbite like you rail off on. Russia would into Ukraine because their leaders in a portion of their population thought it was in their best interest same thing with America going into Iraq in 2003. Russia had more justification because Ukraine was right on their border and about to possibly become a NATO country whereas Iraq was thousands of miles away.

btw I don’t agree with Russian invading Ukraine. But I’m tired of garbage and hypocrisy from people like you.

BTW how about Russia not lending any support to Iraq in 2003. You’re one of those frothing at the mouth hypocrites who complains about white supremacy in America from Republicans, but says nothing about open Nazis serving in the Ukrainian military. I think your viewpoints are a disgrace to America.

 

[ESay]

Those were the smart ones, because the ones that DIDN'T, like Georgia and Ukraine who were fooling around with "brothers" next door paid for their collosal mistake in blood and territory loss

Antoshka, it was NATO who refused to give the Membership Action Plan for Ukraine and Georgia in 2008, when they still had pro-Western governments.

 

[AntonToo]

Antoshka, it was NATO who refused to give the Membership Action Plan for Ukraine and Georgia in 2008, when they still had pro-Western governments.

Why don't you tell that to Putin Vision addict here who keeps talking about how NATO is trying it's darnest to expand.

 

[ESay]

Why don't you tell that to Putin Vision addict here who keeps talking about how NATO is trying it's darnest to expand.

I don't support this point of view. NATO was never intended to join Ukraine and Georgia. Its goal was to create a buffer zone between it and Russia with hostile governments along the Russian border.

And I mentally applaud the Georgians who were wise enough to vote out your insane puppet Saakashvili and didn't alow to turn their country into another war zone.

 

[krichton]

The Ukrainian dictator never attempted to forge a peace agreement with Putin.

Wasn’t there peace before Putin attacked? LOL

 

[AlexanderPK]

In thinking about why Israel is destroying Gaza and killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians, it caused me, in comparison, to wonder why Putin began bombing Ukraine. I honestly could not remember why this all began.

I'm sure we all agree that retaliating for having been attacked and having your citizens abducted and killed is more than reason enough to go after the perpetrators, even if we do not necessarily agree with how they are going about carrying this out. But what I'm struck with at the moment is how Putin was NOT defending Russia, or retaliating for an attack against the country and its people. This wholesale slaughter of innocent people seems to be based on ideology?

Не was in a bad mood that day and thinking of what could cheer him up came up with the idea of bombing Ukies into oblivion. What did you think? I doubt the WSJ or some other waist rag told you otherwise?

 

[AlexanderPK]

You can show al the maps you want, but I stand by my comment.

Why is that? Because you're a moron?

 

[TruthNotBS]

I don't support this point of view. NATO was never intended to join Ukraine and Georgia. Its goal was to create a buffer zone between it and Russia with hostile governments along the Russian border.

And I mentally applaud the Georgians who were wise enough to vote out your insane puppet Saakashvili and didn't alow to turn their country into another war zone.

Saakashvili became the mayor of Odesa a few years later. He had a government position in Ukraine.

 

[AntonToo]

We'll have a nuclear war before then and I'll make sure to make fun of you when that happens.

that’s just dumb

Putin is not suddenly going to want to turn Moscow into wasteland over NATO membership.

Finland joined NATO (with zero response) and so will Ukraine.

 

[AntonToo]

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Poke the bear, lose your hand. ​

We are talking about close to a million total dead, maimed and wounded and that’s what you post?

Again, you are not right in the head.

 

[Lesh]

So your justificaiton of hundreds of thousands of young Russian men's lives destroyed by this war of choice is... deaths of Ukrainians?

How fucked in the head do you need to be to say shit like that?

You just need to be a Kremlin troll

 

[ESay]

Saakashvili became the mayor of Odesa a few years later. He had a government position in Ukraine.

The governor of Odesa oblast. He was appointed by Poroshenko.

 

[Lesh]

Stop spreading Kremlin propaganda

 

[TruthNotBS]

NewsVine_Mariyam said:
In thinking about why Israel is destroying Gaza and killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians, it caused me, in comparison, to wonder why Putin began bombing Ukraine. I honestly could not remember why this all began.

I'm sure we all agree that retaliating for having been attacked and having your citizens abducted and killed is more than reason enough to go after the perpetrators, even if we do not necessarily agree with how they are going about carrying this out. But what I'm struck with at the moment is how Putin was NOT defending Russia, or retaliating for an attack against the country and its people. This wholesale slaughter of innocent people seems to be based on ideology?

The Israelis are illegally occupying Palestinian territory and have been massacring Palestinians for decades. The Palestinians are dehumanized and murdered, wholesale, one Israeli operation after another. Gaza has been besieged, under blockade since 2006, encircled and heavily sanctioned, embargoed. That's one of the reasons the Palestinians created tunnels from Egypt, in order to get building materials, baby formula, medicine, and yes weapons too.

Hamas and other militant organizations in Gaza, wouldn't exist if not for the Israeli occupation. Let's not even go into who contributed to the creation of Hamas and its support:

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces

The premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from

www.timesofisrael.com

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035

The Israeli occupier, divides and conquers. Helps create and supports religious fundamentalist resistance in the Palestinian community, to undermine the secular Palestinian authorities, once known as the "PLO", which was much more reasonable and willing to negotiate with Israel, than Hamas and "Islamic Jihad", groups propped up by Israeli intelligence.

Do only the Israeli Jewish occupiers have the right to defend themselves, not the people they're occupying and dehumanizing, and murdering? Do only the Israelis have the right to defend themselves against those they're brutalizing and illegally occupying? You always here in the Western, Zionist controlled mainstream media that Israel has a right to defend itself, but you never hear any of the pundits say that the Palestinians ALSO HAVE A RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.

According to international law, an occupied people can resist their occupiers, violently. With violent resistance, as in shedding blood.

Does a rapist have the right to defend himself when his victim, bites his pecker off? She committed a brutal act, cutting off the rapist's peepee. That was barbaric, horrible, but why did she do it? She's being brutalized, raped, hello? Why did the Palestinians attack on October 7th? They're being raped, occupied, blockaded, encircled, besieged, bombed, and slaughtered, time and time again. The Palestinians don't have a right to defend themselves? To bite the rapist's dick off? Only the Israeli Jews have the right to resort to violence? You people have your heads so far up your asses you can't even think straight.

1. Operation Summer Rains (June 28 – November 26, 2006)
   
   • After years of Israeli occupation, encirclement, and constant military incursions, Palestinians in Gaza fought back. Following the capture of an Israeli soldier by resistance forces, Israel launched airstrikes and ground attacks, resulting in the deaths of many Palestinian civilians. This operation marked the beginning of a series of brutal campaigns targeting a population already under siege.
2. Operation Hot Winter (February 28 – March 3, 2008)
   
   • In response to Palestinian resistance to the illegal occupation and brutality, Israel once again unleashed airstrikes, leading to the killing of civilians in densely populated areas.
3. Operation Cast Lead (December 27, 2008 – January 18, 2009)
   
   • A genocidal assault on Gaza that resulted in the deaths of over 1,400 Palestinians, many of them civilians, including hundreds of children. Israel claimed it was targeting Hamas, but the bombardment of homes, schools, hospitals, and UN facilities laid bare the reality: Israel was punishing the entire population of Gaza for daring to resist decades of illegal occupation and blockade.
4. Operation Pillar of Defense (November 14 – November 21, 2012)
   
   • Another round of bombings on Gaza, with Israel attempting to assassinate Palestinian leaders and destroy Gaza’s infrastructure. Civilians, as always, bore the brunt of these attacks. Israel again broke the ceasefire agreements and unleashed devastation upon an already impoverished and besieged population.
5. Operation Protective Edge (July 8 – August 26, 2014)
   
   • This prolonged, horrific campaign led to the deaths of over 2,200 Palestinians, including more than 500 children. Entire neighborhoods in Gaza were obliterated. Israel’s supposed goal of targeting resistance groups only masked the fact that its military forces deliberately destroyed homes, schools, hospitals, and essential infrastructure, committing war crimes under the pretext of defense.
6. Operation Black Belt (November 12–14, 2019)
   
   • A targeted assassination of Islamic Jihad leaders by Israel quickly escalated into an all-out assault on Gaza. Once again, Israel violated any semblance of peace agreements, slaughtering civilians under the justification of targeting resistance fighters.
7. Operation Guardian of the Walls (May 10 – May 21, 2021)
   
   • In response to Israeli provocations in East Jerusalem, including the violent expulsion of Palestinian families in Sheikh Jarrah and the storming of the Al-Aqsa Mosque, Palestinian resistance forces launched rockets in defense of their people. Israel responded with indiscriminate airstrikes, murdering over 250 Palestinians, including more than 60 children. The bombing of residential buildings and vital infrastructure further exemplified Israel’s ongoing apartheid system and genocidal intent.
8. Operation Breaking Dawn (August 5 – August 7, 2022)
   
   • A brief but deadly assault on Gaza, once again justified by Israel as targeting resistance forces. In reality, it was another attempt to decapitate Palestinian leadership and terrorize the civilian population. Palestinian resistance has every right to fight back against such relentless aggression and occupation.

Just in the previous few months before October 7th, 2023, the Israeli military had killed 240+ Palestinian civilians, including children. Hello? Are Palestinian lives worth less than Jewish lives? Really?

As far as Russia, stop poking the bear with NATO, a relic of the Cold War that is operationally, doctrinally, and historically geared, focused on fighting Russia. Stop deploying American and EU troops and hardware on Russia's border, in your war maneuvers, and training operations. It's the equivalent of Mexico entering into a military alliance with Russia or/and China, and having those two militaries, deploying, and operating in Mexico. Building bases, permanently stationing forces, right on our border with California, Texas..etc.

We wouldn't allow it. We would be at war with Mexico, even a person like me who leans towards diplomacy between nations, would be in favor of war with Mexico, if that was happening. Even I would be for opening a can of whoop-ass on our Mexican neighbor. So why are we surprised that Russia is opening a can on Ukraine? Duh. The only reason they didn't do it in Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and Poland, is that they couldn't. Russia wasn't in a position militarily or economically at the time to do to them, what they're now doing to Ukraine. That's how NATO got away with it and the MIC - Military Industrial Complex of the US and EU, cashed in.

Those countries could've become members of the EU and another military alliance, that isn't NATO but is still supported by the United States and EU. But you assholes are just too stupid, so you decided to take a fucking COLD WAR DINOSAUR full of baggage, right up to Russia's doorstep and to invite Ukraine into NATO. NATO has been operating in Ukraine for years, way before the 2022 invasion.

What the reality is of NATO is irrelevant, because Russia's perception of it is the actual reality that concerns us. If you're suffering from some type of mental disturbance, a violent form of schizophrenia, turning me into an evil alien disguised as a human, and the voices in your head are telling you to kill me, I'm not going to get near you. I'm not an alien wearing a human suit, nor do I want to hurt you, but you think I am, hence the reality that concerns me, is your reality, not the actual reality. Do you understand? I should stay away from you. NATO isn't really a threat to Russia, OK, granted, but that's not how Russia sees it, and Russia has 6000 ICBMs. Hello?


If you just have to allow Eastern Europe into the EU, then what you do is establish a defense organization that is specifically oriented to Eastern Europe and doesn't have the history or baggage that NATO has with Russia. You try to work around the schizo, within reason, to avoid UNNECESSARY COMPLICATIONS. NATO doesn't have to be on Russia's doorstep, you can just create another military alliance, that is strictly defensive for Eastern Europe. Duh, but no, you're just way too dumb, to recognize this so you insist on NATO on "schizo-Russia's" doorstep. Poking poking poking the bear, poking the schizo-bear, poking poking poking, until it attacks you. Duh.