What law(s) would have stopped the Buffalo shooting?

[Big Bend Texas]

Why are you obsessed with defining human life. I have not said that you are wrong about it yet you go on and an and on.

Your political agenda requires an authoritarian government to restrict women’s liberty and civil rights by controlling tent reproductive organs in every woman’s body.

You are lying again. You've been arguing for three days over it.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Your political agenda requires an authoritarian government to restrict women’s liberty and civil rights by controlling tent reproductive organs in every woman’s body.

A woman doesn't have an inherent right to kill the life within her. This isn't just about her rights, it's bout the life of the child inside her.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

A woman doesn't have an inherent right to kill the life within her. This isn't just about her rights, it's bout the life of the child inside her.

It’s why your argument is absurd. A human Zygote is not a human child. For fifty years our civil society accepted the point when terminating a pregnancy should be safe and legal. Only absurd fanatics like you would define a fertilized egg instantly b coming a human child if conception happens.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

It’s why your argument is absurd. A human Zygote is not a human child. For fifty years our civil society accepted the point when terminating a pregnancy should be safe and legal. Only absurd fanatics like you would define a fertilized egg instantly b coming a human child if conception happens.

By definition it is. A baby is a young human born or not yet born.

The science refutes your entire argument.

We accepted the ownership of blacks in the US from 1789 through 1867 on the basis they weren't really people either.

Just because something has been for any given period of time a societal norm doesn't make it accurate, ethical, or morally correct.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

A women has the right to terminate a pregnancy because what goes on in her body is none of your business up to the point that has been legal fir fifty years.

By definition it is. A baby is a young human born or not yet born.

Now you leave science for sentiment. A human zygot is a human baby with no distinction.

How did you receive moral and spiritual training when you were young? Do you think we humans are distinct from other mammals because we have nonphysical consciousness, spirituality, or souls

 

[Big Bend Texas]

A women has the right to terminate a pregnancy because what goes on in her body is none of your business up to the point that has been legal fir fifty years.




Now you leave science for sentiment. A human zygot is a human baby with no distinction.

How did you receive moral and spiritual training when you were young? Do you think we humans are distinct from other mammals because we have nonphysical consciousness, spirituality, or souls

An opinion with zero facts to support it.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

An opinion with zero facts to support it

What facts support your obsession with seizing control over every pregnancy during the first 13 weeks in America.

Just because something has been for any given period of time a societal norm doesn't make it accurate, ethical, or morally correct.

what makes your obsession to sieze control of the first 13 weeks of pregnancies accurate, ethical, or morally correct.?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

What facts support your obsession with seizing control over every pregnancy during the first 13 weeks in America.



what makes your obsession to sieze control of the first 13 weeks of pregnancies accurate, ethical, or morally correct.?

I'm not the least bit obsessed with anything but the facts.

From 1789 abortion was left to the states until an activist court stepped in to change that in 1973 by fabricating a host of rights nonexistent prior in our constitution.

The "norm" for the US from 1820 when the first restrictions on abortion passed in Connecticut was to leave Abortion a question for each state to settle until the ruling in Roe in 1973 overturning almost 200 years of US Constitutional law and state's rights.

At ever stage of development from conception to death we are human and that's where every discussion needs to begin on the subject along with the fact that every successful abortion leads to the death of at least one human being.

Once we have a baseline of fact to begin from we can then let each state decide for itself what limits if any to place on abortion.

 

[2aguy]

What a silly little boy you are, all the stats from countries demonstrate that the US have dreadful stats due to their culture and the 2nd Amendment, and you're trying to ask other countries to demonstrate this and that. You are boring and a retard in equal measure. You spout the same gun shite that 2aguy does and even Americans are getting bored now f that shit. It no longer washes.

The sooner your generation dies out, the sooner America can start to get to grips with gun nuts and regulations.

You mean those countries that handed over 15 million men, women and children to the German socialists who then murdered them? Those countries?

You idiots in Europe desperately want to forget what you did during the socialist occupation…..you know, after you told your people that giving up their guns would make them safer……..but 15 million people were murdered…more people than all of the people murdered by criminals in the U.S. in the last 82 years…..

Europe has nothing to teach is about murder other than giving up guns makes it easier for the government to commit mass murder.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

What a silly little boy you are, all the stats from countries demonstrate that the US have dreadful stats due to their culture and the 2nd Amendment, and you're trying to ask other countries to demonstrate this and that. You are boring and a retard in equal measure. You spout the same gun shite that 2aguy does and even Americans are getting bored now f that shit. It no longer washes.

The sooner your generation dies out, the sooner America can start to get to grips with gun nuts and regulations.

Have you always been such a partisan idiot?

Compare the demographics, geography and length of our southern border with what is essentially a violent kleptocracy owned and operated by drug cartels who spread their violence and poison into the US with the aid of Democrats in DC.

 

[2aguy]

This is not an abortion thread…..

 

[22lcidw]

A women has the right to terminate a pregnancy because what goes on in her body is none of your business up to the point that has been legal fir fifty years.




Now you leave science for sentiment. A human zygot is a human baby with no distinction.

How did you receive moral and spiritual training when you were young? Do you think we humans are distinct from other mammals because we have nonphysical consciousness, spirituality, or souls

And who told you that? Was that science by godless decree? What we see today is a behavior issue run amok and the reassurance that the government will spring for the elimination of that result of behavior. Sex is part of everything we do. It is how far we go to experience it without taking precautions or taking care of the child that comes from it.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

At ever stage of development from conception to death we are human and that's where every discussion needs to begin on the subject along with the fact that every successful abortion leads to the death of at least one human being.

What gives you the right and authority to pass that edict? Why do free citizens have to live according to your political and ideological whims?

Does a zygot have its own soul or is it developing through the mother’s soul.

Catholics believe God creates a relationship with each new “soul” at conception. It’s the spark from God that makes us all human.

So when does your ‘eternal master of science’ create a relationship with a new human?

Is ‘transmigration of souls’ forbidden in the kingdom that you rule from your lofty scientific throne?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

And who told you that? Was that science by godless decree?

Science has nothing to do with my opinion on a woman’s right to choose. It’s simple. It’s freedom and respect for a woman’s right to make her own health and life choice decisions regarding what goes on during the early stages of a pregnancy as it’s been for fifty years.

CIVIL Society as a whole has no say in the matter during early stages of pregnancy because a woman has a higher right to make the decisions than a developing human fetus does.

 

[jc456]

You are as absurd as LOUIE Ghomert.

Still avoiding the biological concept of viability outside the womb I see.

are you suggesting that a baby will never grow after it is out of the womb?

 

[jc456]

A newborn is breathing on its own.

can it feed itself?

 

[jc456]

I disagree.
A human is self sufficient and sentient.
A fetus is only a potential human.

so a newborn baby is self sufficient?

a newborn can feed itself? really?
life is life BTW. is the fetus alive?

 

[jc456]

That has never been a requirement for defining human life, you pulled it out of your ass.

If that were the case we could kill everyone hooked up on a ventilator or who is dependent on oxygen under the same premise.

You are a sick disgusting, fucking ghoul.

I believe some states have a heartbeat law in place, but breathing on its own? hahaahahahahahahahaha

 

[NotfooledbyW]

can it feed itself?

No. Do you have a point? There is a difference between a zygote and a breathing newborn or dont you see it?

 

[jc456]

No. Do you have a point? There is a difference between a zygote and a breathing newborn or dont you see it?

so it isn't self sufficient?