What kind of horrible, dangerous places do these people live that hey have to go out armed?

[pismoe]

And they have a hand gun which is a real defense against an AR-15, huh? And so far, how many of those armed teachers have had to be in an actual shoot out with someone with an AR-15, which seems to be the weapon of choice for mass shooters.

ETA: Very few, if any would face that kind of gunman if the truth be known. And neither would any of you here either no matter how much you puff yourselves up and imagine yourselves as the hero who goes in and saves the day. You'd be as dead as a door nail when the shooter saw the gun in your hand.

What do you think, that the biggest gun wins or something? The person that wins is the one that can plant a bullet in the other person with any size gun.

I'm not exactly an expert on all the mechanical stats of semi-automatic weapons. How fast do AR-15s fire in comparison to various handguns? I realize leftist pussifists like Kit are under the mistaken impression that AR-15s are some sort of crazed machine gun, but since we both know better, can you shed some light on this?

Here we go again. The AR shoots no faster per load than any other gun with the same capacity mag. Where it excels is the fact it can carry many times the amount per mag as the handgun and can reload in a matter of a couple of seconds. Plus, it's killing power and penetration power is equal at 400 yds to a 357 mag at the muzzle. It's designed for one thing and one thing only. It's designed for a scared shitless 18 year old kid with minimal training to fire, reload, fire, reload, fire, reload, repeat as necessary. Just because it can do other things doesn't mean that it's not designed for war. For everything it can otherwise do, there are better rifles available that cost less. The other difference is, the AR in stock form, is hard to conceal on your person. These are the reasons it's the number one pick for the well dressed mass shooter. And the reason it's the easiest to stop before it gets onto the scene by methods being put into our schools today.

As for is the AR-15 capable of war? Using the Military Version of the M-4, the M-4 has three settings on it's selector; safe, semi and 3 shot burst while the AR-15 has two; safe, single. The normal usage of the M-4 in battle is single shot. Using the 3 shot burst wastes ammo and you are only on target with the first round. So the AR and the M-4 are exactly equal in a combat situation.

For home defense for a man and most women, the handgun is still more useful and less dangerous to the outside neighbors than the AR is. Second comes the Shotgun. The AR is pretty well at the bottom of the list as most Rifles will be. Let's face it, a 95 pound woman hitting the slide on a 870 Remington makes even a 6 foot 8 inch intruder freeze in his tracks.

You can load a fresh mag into a handgun just as fast as you can a rifle

The difference is, a 30 round pistol mag is rather out of place. And your 30 round pistol mag can be damaged while in the gun just by bumping it into just about anything. The 30 round AR mag is much harder to damage when seated since it's made for punishment in the field. Once again, you are just justifying bad behavior.

---------------------------------------- what pistol has a 30 round magazine as Standard design for their pistol that is available to the general public 'mrgun control' daryl ??

 

[BrokeLoser]

Odds of dying from gunfire assault, 1 in 306.

The Odds on How You Will Die

Odds of dying in a fire or explosion, 10.9 per million.

U.S. fire deaths, fire death rates, and risk of dying in a fire

Plenty of suffering short of death caused by fires. Billions per year lost as well as countless people who are seriously injured. A fire department responds to a fire every 24 seconds in the US. You are much more likely to need a fire extinguisher than a gun.

Not according to the statistics I provided. Nobody ever stuck a fire extinguisher in my face and stole my wallet.

Since I am not being stupid in where I go with my wallet, I haven't had anyone stick a fire extinguisher nor a gun in my face and steal my wallet either. We all hear about stores being robbed 3 times a year and they just clean up the mess and reopen each time even when someone gets killed in the process. This is the height of stupid. Move the store to a less likely area for violence. No, it's better to just be stupid. And we can't fix stupid.

“Move the store to a less likely area for violence. No, it's better to just be stupid. And we can't fix stupid.”

WARNING: Grab your straight jacket before reading any further.
The problem is; black and brown “areas” need stores as well and we in White / Asian areas don’t want those savage darkies driving to our neighborhoods to shop. Sorry.

WARNING: Grab your White Hoods and Crosses for the front lawn.

Scary shit huh?
My scary post is true..look it up...www.google.com violent crime by race....truth is a major inconvenience for the nutless Left. I totally get it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Odds of dying from gunfire assault, 1 in 306.

The Odds on How You Will Die

Odds of dying in a fire or explosion, 10.9 per million.

U.S. fire deaths, fire death rates, and risk of dying in a fire

Plenty of suffering short of death caused by fires. Billions per year lost as well as countless people who are seriously injured. A fire department responds to a fire every 24 seconds in the US. You are much more likely to need a fire extinguisher than a gun.

Not according to the statistics I provided. Nobody ever stuck a fire extinguisher in my face and stole my wallet.

Since I am not being stupid in where I go with my wallet, I haven't had anyone stick a fire extinguisher nor a gun in my face and steal my wallet either. We all hear about stores being robbed 3 times a year and they just clean up the mess and reopen each time even when someone gets killed in the process. This is the height of stupid. Move the store to a less likely area for violence. No, it's better to just be stupid. And we can't fix stupid.

“Move the store to a less likely area for violence. No, it's better to just be stupid. And we can't fix stupid.”

WARNING: Grab your straight jacket before reading any further.
The problem is; black and brown “areas” need stores as well and we in White / Asian areas don’t want those savage darkies driving to our neighborhoods to shop. Sorry.

WARNING: Grab your White Hoods and Crosses for the front lawn.

Why? You throwing a party or something?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Military style gun battle, by defending myself from assault or death?

So what do you think the odds are of me dying in a building fire compared to me dying from an attack in the US?

You tell me. It's your story.

Odds of dying from gunfire assault, 1 in 306.

The Odds on How You Will Die

Odds of dying in a fire or explosion, 10.9 per million.

U.S. fire deaths, fire death rates, and risk of dying in a fire

Plenty of suffering short of death caused by fires. Billions per year lost as well as countless people who are seriously injured. A fire department responds to a fire every 24 seconds in the US. You are much more likely to need a fire extinguisher than a gun.

Not according to the statistics I provided. Nobody ever stuck a fire extinguisher in my face and stole my wallet.

Since I am not being stupid in where I go with my wallet, I haven't had anyone stick a fire extinguisher nor a gun in my face and steal my wallet either. We all hear about stores being robbed 3 times a year and they just clean up the mess and reopen each time even when someone gets killed in the process. This is the height of stupid. Move the store to a less likely area for violence. No, it's better to just be stupid. And we can't fix stupid.

Exactly. Where would America be today if we didn't run every time there was trouble?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

What do you think, that the biggest gun wins or something? The person that wins is the one that can plant a bullet in the other person with any size gun.

I'm not exactly an expert on all the mechanical stats of semi-automatic weapons. How fast do AR-15s fire in comparison to various handguns? I realize leftist pussifists like Kit are under the mistaken impression that AR-15s are some sort of crazed machine gun, but since we both know better, can you shed some light on this?

Here we go again. The AR shoots no faster per load than any other gun with the same capacity mag. Where it excels is the fact it can carry many times the amount per mag as the handgun and can reload in a matter of a couple of seconds. Plus, it's killing power and penetration power is equal at 400 yds to a 357 mag at the muzzle. It's designed for one thing and one thing only. It's designed for a scared shitless 18 year old kid with minimal training to fire, reload, fire, reload, fire, reload, repeat as necessary. Just because it can do other things doesn't mean that it's not designed for war. For everything it can otherwise do, there are better rifles available that cost less. The other difference is, the AR in stock form, is hard to conceal on your person. These are the reasons it's the number one pick for the well dressed mass shooter. And the reason it's the easiest to stop before it gets onto the scene by methods being put into our schools today.

As for is the AR-15 capable of war? Using the Military Version of the M-4, the M-4 has three settings on it's selector; safe, semi and 3 shot burst while the AR-15 has two; safe, single. The normal usage of the M-4 in battle is single shot. Using the 3 shot burst wastes ammo and you are only on target with the first round. So the AR and the M-4 are exactly equal in a combat situation.

For home defense for a man and most women, the handgun is still more useful and less dangerous to the outside neighbors than the AR is. Second comes the Shotgun. The AR is pretty well at the bottom of the list as most Rifles will be. Let's face it, a 95 pound woman hitting the slide on a 870 Remington makes even a 6 foot 8 inch intruder freeze in his tracks.

You can load a fresh mag into a handgun just as fast as you can a rifle

The difference is, a 30 round pistol mag is rather out of place. And your 30 round pistol mag can be damaged while in the gun just by bumping it into just about anything. The 30 round AR mag is much harder to damage when seated since it's made for punishment in the field. Once again, you are just justifying bad behavior.

---------------------------------------- what pistol has a 30 round magazine as Standard design for their pistol that is available to the general public 'mrgun control' daryl ??

You missed the point, cupcake. Most don't have more than 18 because that's about the most that can be carried without damaged to the mag or the gun itself. Meanwhile, the AR is designed for a 20 or a 30 shot mag and comes with either. Your whole idea is that you can expend as many rounds from a handgun as an AR. Well, cupcake, you can't in real life. Only in the movies and in your twisted imagination.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

You tell me. It's your story.

Odds of dying from gunfire assault, 1 in 306.

The Odds on How You Will Die

Odds of dying in a fire or explosion, 10.9 per million.

U.S. fire deaths, fire death rates, and risk of dying in a fire

Plenty of suffering short of death caused by fires. Billions per year lost as well as countless people who are seriously injured. A fire department responds to a fire every 24 seconds in the US. You are much more likely to need a fire extinguisher than a gun.

Not according to the statistics I provided. Nobody ever stuck a fire extinguisher in my face and stole my wallet.

Since I am not being stupid in where I go with my wallet, I haven't had anyone stick a fire extinguisher nor a gun in my face and steal my wallet either. We all hear about stores being robbed 3 times a year and they just clean up the mess and reopen each time even when someone gets killed in the process. This is the height of stupid. Move the store to a less likely area for violence. No, it's better to just be stupid. And we can't fix stupid.

Exactly. Where would America be today if we didn't run every time there was trouble?

I bet you are the type that smokes while refueling your car, right? Or runs with scissors just because you can. I can choose to not be stupid but I can see that you can't. We can't cure stupid.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

But if I don't have a fire extinguisher and I find myself in a building surrounded by flames, I'll certainly be glad I have it even though I never needed one in my life before.

Yet you don't see the need to be armed with a fire extinguisher 24/7. Seems short sighted on your part, since you are so ready for a military style gun battle that is less likely than having a fire.

Military style gun battle, by defending myself from assault or death?

So what do you think the odds are of me dying in a building fire compared to me dying from an attack in the US?

You tell me. It's your story.

Odds of dying from gunfire assault, 1 in 306.

The Odds on How You Will Die

Odds of dying in a fire or explosion, 10.9 per million.

U.S. fire deaths, fire death rates, and risk of dying in a fire

Your figure for dying of a gunfire assault is wrong. The figure for is much lower. Let's take a look at the figure for armed robbery. It's 1 out of 167. That sounds pretty high. But it's pretty accurate. Now, consider that many of those are the same people being robbed multiple times because they are stupid. It's like burglars hitting the same home many times because the house is easy to rob. Stupid people squew the average. You can be stupid and be murdered, robbed, beaten, raped, etc. and keep those figures high or you can not be stupid and not be part of the statistics. I choose not to be part of the statistics, myself. If you keep going into those areas that are high in the statistics, guess what, you are being stupid. Just go somewhere else and not bve stupid.

Not always possible. For instance my job takes me in high crime areas at times. It's work and nothing I can do about it. My hospital is also in a high crime area, but thousands of people go there every single day.

As for where I live, it was once one of the nicest suburbs in the city until the blacks moved in. It's not a high-crime area, but we have enough shootings for it to be a concern. So I stay armed especially if I have to go to the store or bank after dark.

 

[Andylusion]

On the same point, Dragontwat says she's lived for 70 years without ever feeling the need for a gun to make her safer.

I've lived for 50 years without ever having my house catch fire. Haven't even come close. Guess what? My house has a fire alarm, smoke detectors, sprinklers, and a fire extinguisher. Because the fact that it hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't, it's only gotta happen once, and it's too late to prepare for it after the flames are already licking up the curtains.

Exactly. We all can say we lived X amount of years without X ever happening. I hate to say it, but what if her 71th year changed everything?

Just because you go through life without something ever happening to you doesn't mean the rest of your life will be the same. I've never had a car stolen, but it doesn't mean it will never happen in the future. I lock my car when I leave it.....even in my own garage. My cars are usually paid for so I don't have to have theft insurance. I have it just in case.

Perhaps things are different in Canada and she doesn't understand what goes on down here. As I posted earlier, even though we had our CCW laws for some time before I got mine, I never bothered until my neighborhood started going to hell. In fact, the only reason I purchased a gun in the first place was after I came home and my apartment was robbed. Until the time, I never dreamed of owning a gun.

And Dragonlady, if you are reading this and you can be honest, have you ever played your lottery in Canada when the jackpot went up there? Have you ever crossed the border to buy a ticket in the US when our lottery jackpot was in the hundreds of millions of dollars?

I don't have a problem if you want to carry a fire extinguisher every where you go. If you drop it and it goes off, nobody will die. If your ego causes you to point it at somebody, nobody will die.

But if I don't have a fire extinguisher and I find myself in a building surrounded by flames, I'll certainly be glad I have it even though I never needed one in my life before.

Yet you don't see the need to be armed with a fire extinguisher 24/7. Seems short sighted on your part, since you are so ready for a military style gun battle that is less likely than having a fire.

How is carrying a pistol for self defense being ready for a military style gun battle? Please, you twit, enlighten us.....

Oh I don't know, let's ask the Vietnamese, Somalis, Iraqis, Afghans, Congolese, Kenyans, and so on.

You think a pistol can't kill military people are something? How dumb of a twit are you?

Before you start insulting people about being dumb, make sure your own comment isn't dumb.

Besides that, the whole point is to avoid a conflict to begin with. When Bundy was defending his cattle, hundreds of people showed up with weapons. The Feds didn't storm them. They backed off and left.

The only reason the Feds didn't attack all those people, was because they were armed.

The exact opposite happened with Elian Gonzalez. When Clinton sent in his storm troopers, the reason he did so, was because the protesters were unarmed and defenseless.

This is what happens when you are unarmed and defenseless... you get abused, beaten, and have your children sent to a socialist prison camp known as Cuba.

And I would be willing to bet real money, that if all those people were armed with weapons, they would have backed off.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Yet you don't see the need to be armed with a fire extinguisher 24/7. Seems short sighted on your part, since you are so ready for a military style gun battle that is less likely than having a fire.

Military style gun battle, by defending myself from assault or death?

So what do you think the odds are of me dying in a building fire compared to me dying from an attack in the US?

You tell me. It's your story.

Odds of dying from gunfire assault, 1 in 306.

The Odds on How You Will Die

Odds of dying in a fire or explosion, 10.9 per million.

U.S. fire deaths, fire death rates, and risk of dying in a fire

Your figure for dying of a gunfire assault is wrong. The figure for is much lower. Let's take a look at the figure for armed robbery. It's 1 out of 167. That sounds pretty high. But it's pretty accurate. Now, consider that many of those are the same people being robbed multiple times because they are stupid. It's like burglars hitting the same home many times because the house is easy to rob. Stupid people squew the average. You can be stupid and be murdered, robbed, beaten, raped, etc. and keep those figures high or you can not be stupid and not be part of the statistics. I choose not to be part of the statistics, myself. If you keep going into those areas that are high in the statistics, guess what, you are being stupid. Just go somewhere else and not bve stupid.

Not always possible. For instance my job takes me in high crime areas at times. It's work and nothing I can do about it. My hospital is also in a high crime area, but thousands of people go there every single day.

As for where I live, it was once one of the nicest suburbs in the city until the blacks moved in. It's not a high-crime area, but we have enough shootings for it to be a concern. So I stay armed especially if I have to go to the store or bank after dark.

Your work may have to stay that way until YOU decide to change it by either working with the community and authorities to clean it up or by taking another job elsewhere. It's a choice.

As for your home, that's strictly a choice on your part. You stay or leave, your choice. If the crime is that high then you can leave. Or you can work with the community and the Authorities to clean it up.

But just complaining about it and not working with the community and authorities to clean it up just took you to the (cue the music) "The Stupid Zone".

 

[pismoe]

I'm not exactly an expert on all the mechanical stats of semi-automatic weapons. How fast do AR-15s fire in comparison to various handguns? I realize leftist pussifists like Kit are under the mistaken impression that AR-15s are some sort of crazed machine gun, but since we both know better, can you shed some light on this?

Here we go again. The AR shoots no faster per load than any other gun with the same capacity mag. Where it excels is the fact it can carry many times the amount per mag as the handgun and can reload in a matter of a couple of seconds. Plus, it's killing power and penetration power is equal at 400 yds to a 357 mag at the muzzle. It's designed for one thing and one thing only. It's designed for a scared shitless 18 year old kid with minimal training to fire, reload, fire, reload, fire, reload, repeat as necessary. Just because it can do other things doesn't mean that it's not designed for war. For everything it can otherwise do, there are better rifles available that cost less. The other difference is, the AR in stock form, is hard to conceal on your person. These are the reasons it's the number one pick for the well dressed mass shooter. And the reason it's the easiest to stop before it gets onto the scene by methods being put into our schools today.

As for is the AR-15 capable of war? Using the Military Version of the M-4, the M-4 has three settings on it's selector; safe, semi and 3 shot burst while the AR-15 has two; safe, single. The normal usage of the M-4 in battle is single shot. Using the 3 shot burst wastes ammo and you are only on target with the first round. So the AR and the M-4 are exactly equal in a combat situation.

For home defense for a man and most women, the handgun is still more useful and less dangerous to the outside neighbors than the AR is. Second comes the Shotgun. The AR is pretty well at the bottom of the list as most Rifles will be. Let's face it, a 95 pound woman hitting the slide on a 870 Remington makes even a 6 foot 8 inch intruder freeze in his tracks.

You can load a fresh mag into a handgun just as fast as you can a rifle

The difference is, a 30 round pistol mag is rather out of place. And your 30 round pistol mag can be damaged while in the gun just by bumping it into just about anything. The 30 round AR mag is much harder to damage when seated since it's made for punishment in the field. Once again, you are just justifying bad behavior.

---------------------------------------- what pistol has a 30 round magazine as Standard design for their pistol that is available to the general public 'mrgun control' daryl ??

You missed the point, cupcake. Most don't have more than 18 because that's about the most that can be carried without damaged to the mag or the gun itself. Meanwhile, the AR is designed for a 20 or a 30 shot mag and comes with either. Your whole idea is that you can expend as many rounds from a handgun as an AR. Well, cupcake, you can't in real life. Only in the movies and in your twisted imagination.

------------------------------------ then WHY talk about 30 round pistol magazines 'mrguncontrol' daryl ?? My ASSUMED Fact is that there is only one machine PISTOL [that i am aware of] by Glock that comes standard design with an ABOUT 30 round mag as standard and thats a Class 3 weapon that is restricted . And as far as the AR goes , the best mags as OPINION are 20 rounders as many find the 30 too long for prone shooting 'mrguncontrol' daryl .

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Here we go again. The AR shoots no faster per load than any other gun with the same capacity mag. Where it excels is the fact it can carry many times the amount per mag as the handgun and can reload in a matter of a couple of seconds. Plus, it's killing power and penetration power is equal at 400 yds to a 357 mag at the muzzle. It's designed for one thing and one thing only. It's designed for a scared shitless 18 year old kid with minimal training to fire, reload, fire, reload, fire, reload, repeat as necessary. Just because it can do other things doesn't mean that it's not designed for war. For everything it can otherwise do, there are better rifles available that cost less. The other difference is, the AR in stock form, is hard to conceal on your person. These are the reasons it's the number one pick for the well dressed mass shooter. And the reason it's the easiest to stop before it gets onto the scene by methods being put into our schools today.

As for is the AR-15 capable of war? Using the Military Version of the M-4, the M-4 has three settings on it's selector; safe, semi and 3 shot burst while the AR-15 has two; safe, single. The normal usage of the M-4 in battle is single shot. Using the 3 shot burst wastes ammo and you are only on target with the first round. So the AR and the M-4 are exactly equal in a combat situation.

For home defense for a man and most women, the handgun is still more useful and less dangerous to the outside neighbors than the AR is. Second comes the Shotgun. The AR is pretty well at the bottom of the list as most Rifles will be. Let's face it, a 95 pound woman hitting the slide on a 870 Remington makes even a 6 foot 8 inch intruder freeze in his tracks.

You can load a fresh mag into a handgun just as fast as you can a rifle

The difference is, a 30 round pistol mag is rather out of place. And your 30 round pistol mag can be damaged while in the gun just by bumping it into just about anything. The 30 round AR mag is much harder to damage when seated since it's made for punishment in the field. Once again, you are just justifying bad behavior.

---------------------------------------- what pistol has a 30 round magazine as Standard design for their pistol that is available to the general public 'mrgun control' daryl ??

You missed the point, cupcake. Most don't have more than 18 because that's about the most that can be carried without damaged to the mag or the gun itself. Meanwhile, the AR is designed for a 20 or a 30 shot mag and comes with either. Your whole idea is that you can expend as many rounds from a handgun as an AR. Well, cupcake, you can't in real life. Only in the movies and in your twisted imagination.

------------------------------------ then WHY talk about 30 round pistol magazines 'mrguncontrol' daryl ?? My ASSUMED Fact is that there is only one machine PISTOL [that i am aware of] by Glock that comes standard design with an ABOUT 30 round mag as standard and thats a Class 3 weapon that is restricted . And as far as the AR goes , the best mags as OPINION are 20 rounders as many find the 30 too long for prone shooting 'mrguncontrol' daryl .

It was stated by you gunnutters that you can fire as many rounds from a handgun as you can from an AR. Only in the movies and in your fantasies. That's the point, cupcake. It has nothing to do with gun control. It's reality. You reached the saturation point of

 

[pismoe]

Are you a member of 'gabby giffords' gun control group of 'serbice' people or 'retired government employees' that push for gun restrictions on Americans 'mrguncontrol' Daryl ??

 

[hadit]

And they have a hand gun which is a real defense against an AR-15, huh? And so far, how many of those armed teachers have had to be in an actual shoot out with someone with an AR-15, which seems to be the weapon of choice for mass shooters.

ETA: Very few, if any would face that kind of gunman if the truth be known. And neither would any of you here either no matter how much you puff yourselves up and imagine yourselves as the hero who goes in and saves the day. You'd be as dead as a door nail when the shooter saw the gun in your hand.

What do you think, that the biggest gun wins or something? The person that wins is the one that can plant a bullet in the other person with any size gun.

I'm not exactly an expert on all the mechanical stats of semi-automatic weapons. How fast do AR-15s fire in comparison to various handguns? I realize leftist pussifists like Kit are under the mistaken impression that AR-15s are some sort of crazed machine gun, but since we both know better, can you shed some light on this?

Here we go again. The AR shoots no faster per load than any other gun with the same capacity mag. Where it excels is the fact it can carry many times the amount per mag as the handgun and can reload in a matter of a couple of seconds. Plus, it's killing power and penetration power is equal at 400 yds to a 357 mag at the muzzle. It's designed for one thing and one thing only. It's designed for a scared shitless 18 year old kid with minimal training to fire, reload, fire, reload, fire, reload, repeat as necessary. Just because it can do other things doesn't mean that it's not designed for war. For everything it can otherwise do, there are better rifles available that cost less. The other difference is, the AR in stock form, is hard to conceal on your person. These are the reasons it's the number one pick for the well dressed mass shooter. And the reason it's the easiest to stop before it gets onto the scene by methods being put into our schools today.

As for is the AR-15 capable of war? Using the Military Version of the M-4, the M-4 has three settings on it's selector; safe, semi and 3 shot burst while the AR-15 has two; safe, single. The normal usage of the M-4 in battle is single shot. Using the 3 shot burst wastes ammo and you are only on target with the first round. So the AR and the M-4 are exactly equal in a combat situation.

For home defense for a man and most women, the handgun is still more useful and less dangerous to the outside neighbors than the AR is. Second comes the Shotgun. The AR is pretty well at the bottom of the list as most Rifles will be. Let's face it, a 95 pound woman hitting the slide on a 870 Remington makes even a 6 foot 8 inch intruder freeze in his tracks.

And, of course, we need to follow the advice of the current democrat front runner for 2020, who says we should fire the shotgun through the door.

Let me ask you this. If a 12 gauge even firing a 3 in mag with bird shot rips a hole about a foot wide through a door are YOU going to open it up? Not me. Better to go after the house down the street, don't you think? Even a stupid criminal will have more than a second thought at that point.

When you don't know who is on the other side of the door, you shouldn't be shooting through it. If they force their way through, that's a different matter. If they just need help, you don't want to kill them.

 

[pismoe]

Military style gun battle, by defending myself from assault or death?

So what do you think the odds are of me dying in a building fire compared to me dying from an attack in the US?

You tell me. It's your story.

Odds of dying from gunfire assault, 1 in 306.

The Odds on How You Will Die

Odds of dying in a fire or explosion, 10.9 per million.

U.S. fire deaths, fire death rates, and risk of dying in a fire

Your figure for dying of a gunfire assault is wrong. The figure for is much lower. Let's take a look at the figure for armed robbery. It's 1 out of 167. That sounds pretty high. But it's pretty accurate. Now, consider that many of those are the same people being robbed multiple times because they are stupid. It's like burglars hitting the same home many times because the house is easy to rob. Stupid people squew the average. You can be stupid and be murdered, robbed, beaten, raped, etc. and keep those figures high or you can not be stupid and not be part of the statistics. I choose not to be part of the statistics, myself. If you keep going into those areas that are high in the statistics, guess what, you are being stupid. Just go somewhere else and not bve stupid.

Not always possible. For instance my job takes me in high crime areas at times. It's work and nothing I can do about it. My hospital is also in a high crime area, but thousands of people go there every single day.

As for where I live, it was once one of the nicest suburbs in the city until the blacks moved in. It's not a high-crime area, but we have enough shootings for it to be a concern. So I stay armed especially if I have to go to the store or bank after dark.

Your work may have to stay that way until YOU decide to change it by either working with the community and authorities to clean it up or by taking another job elsewhere. It's a choice.

As for your home, that's strictly a choice on your part. You stay or leave, your choice. If the crime is that high then you can leave. Or you can work with the community and the Authorities to clean it up.

But just complaining about it and not working with the community and authorities to clean it up just took you to the (cue the music) "The Stupid Zone".

----------------------------------------------- i think its the government and people like you that is causing the problems by importing these people . Is that YOU with the gun pointed at 'the Gonzalez' kid 'mrguncontrol' Daryl .

 

[BrokeLoser]

Yet you don't see the need to be armed with a fire extinguisher 24/7. Seems short sighted on your part, since you are so ready for a military style gun battle that is less likely than having a fire.

Military style gun battle, by defending myself from assault or death?

So what do you think the odds are of me dying in a building fire compared to me dying from an attack in the US?

You tell me. It's your story.

Odds of dying from gunfire assault, 1 in 306.

The Odds on How You Will Die

Odds of dying in a fire or explosion, 10.9 per million.

U.S. fire deaths, fire death rates, and risk of dying in a fire

Your figure for dying of a gunfire assault is wrong. The figure for is much lower. Let's take a look at the figure for armed robbery. It's 1 out of 167. That sounds pretty high. But it's pretty accurate. Now, consider that many of those are the same people being robbed multiple times because they are stupid. It's like burglars hitting the same home many times because the house is easy to rob. Stupid people squew the average. You can be stupid and be murdered, robbed, beaten, raped, etc. and keep those figures high or you can not be stupid and not be part of the statistics. I choose not to be part of the statistics, myself. If you keep going into those areas that are high in the statistics, guess what, you are being stupid. Just go somewhere else and not bve stupid.

Not always possible. For instance my job takes me in high crime areas at times. It's work and nothing I can do about it. My hospital is also in a high crime area, but thousands of people go there every single day.

As for where I live, it was once one of the nicest suburbs in the city until the blacks moved in. It's not a high-crime area, but we have enough shootings for it to be a concern. So I stay armed especially if I have to go to the store or bank after dark.

Easy now Ray...don’t get too honest...you’ll be dubbed a racist.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Military style gun battle, by defending myself from assault or death?

So what do you think the odds are of me dying in a building fire compared to me dying from an attack in the US?

You tell me. It's your story.

Odds of dying from gunfire assault, 1 in 306.

The Odds on How You Will Die

Odds of dying in a fire or explosion, 10.9 per million.

U.S. fire deaths, fire death rates, and risk of dying in a fire

Your figure for dying of a gunfire assault is wrong. The figure for is much lower. Let's take a look at the figure for armed robbery. It's 1 out of 167. That sounds pretty high. But it's pretty accurate. Now, consider that many of those are the same people being robbed multiple times because they are stupid. It's like burglars hitting the same home many times because the house is easy to rob. Stupid people squew the average. You can be stupid and be murdered, robbed, beaten, raped, etc. and keep those figures high or you can not be stupid and not be part of the statistics. I choose not to be part of the statistics, myself. If you keep going into those areas that are high in the statistics, guess what, you are being stupid. Just go somewhere else and not bve stupid.

Not always possible. For instance my job takes me in high crime areas at times. It's work and nothing I can do about it. My hospital is also in a high crime area, but thousands of people go there every single day.

As for where I live, it was once one of the nicest suburbs in the city until the blacks moved in. It's not a high-crime area, but we have enough shootings for it to be a concern. So I stay armed especially if I have to go to the store or bank after dark.

Your work may have to stay that way until YOU decide to change it by either working with the community and authorities to clean it up or by taking another job elsewhere. It's a choice.

As for your home, that's strictly a choice on your part. You stay or leave, your choice. If the crime is that high then you can leave. Or you can work with the community and the Authorities to clean it up.

But just complaining about it and not working with the community and authorities to clean it up just took you to the (cue the music) "The Stupid Zone".

My work is driving a truck and we're a same day outfit so get different deliveries and customers all the time. There is no telling if you will be in the city one day or the other side of the state.

There is no working with a community once it's shot. You can work with it all you like but it won't change much of anything. That's what people did to try and preserve this neighborhood. But you can't fight government. When government targets your area for destruction, that's exactly what happens. Since I'm in the stupid zone, tell me what the smart zone is. Selling your home for half of what you paid for it and running to some area you can't afford?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Are you a member of 'gabby giffords' gun control group of 'serbice' people or 'retired government e
mployees' that push for gun restrictions on Americans 'mrguncontrol' Daryl ??

You just made the cut. And there is no cure for stupid.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Military style gun battle, by defending myself from assault or death?

So what do you think the odds are of me dying in a building fire compared to me dying from an attack in the US?

You tell me. It's your story.

Odds of dying from gunfire assault, 1 in 306.

The Odds on How You Will Die

Odds of dying in a fire or explosion, 10.9 per million.

U.S. fire deaths, fire death rates, and risk of dying in a fire

Your figure for dying of a gunfire assault is wrong. The figure for is much lower. Let's take a look at the figure for armed robbery. It's 1 out of 167. That sounds pretty high. But it's pretty accurate. Now, consider that many of those are the same people being robbed multiple times because they are stupid. It's like burglars hitting the same home many times because the house is easy to rob. Stupid people squew the average. You can be stupid and be murdered, robbed, beaten, raped, etc. and keep those figures high or you can not be stupid and not be part of the statistics. I choose not to be part of the statistics, myself. If you keep going into those areas that are high in the statistics, guess what, you are being stupid. Just go somewhere else and not bve stupid.

Not always possible. For instance my job takes me in high crime areas at times. It's work and nothing I can do about it. My hospital is also in a high crime area, but thousands of people go there every single day.

As for where I live, it was once one of the nicest suburbs in the city until the blacks moved in. It's not a high-crime area, but we have enough shootings for it to be a concern. So I stay armed especially if I have to go to the store or bank after dark.

Your work may have to stay that way until YOU decide to change it by either working with the community and authorities to clean it up or by taking another job elsewhere. It's a choice.

As for your home, that's strictly a choice on your part. You stay or leave, your choice. If the crime is that high then you can leave. Or you can work with the community and the Authorities to clean it up.

But just complaining about it and not working with the community and authorities to clean it up just took you to the (cue the music) "The Stupid Zone".

Haha...what fantasy world do you live in?
Liberal shithole cities never clean up, they only further degrade as more and more degenerates gravitate toward said liberal shithole. Politicians, Mayors and Police Chiefs simply decriminalize shit or stop making arrests to improve their spreadsheets. Don’t be a fool.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

You tell me. It's your story.

Odds of dying from gunfire assault, 1 in 306.

The Odds on How You Will Die

Odds of dying in a fire or explosion, 10.9 per million.

U.S. fire deaths, fire death rates, and risk of dying in a fire

Your figure for dying of a gunfire assault is wrong. The figure for is much lower. Let's take a look at the figure for armed robbery. It's 1 out of 167. That sounds pretty high. But it's pretty accurate. Now, consider that many of those are the same people being robbed multiple times because they are stupid. It's like burglars hitting the same home many times because the house is easy to rob. Stupid people squew the average. You can be stupid and be murdered, robbed, beaten, raped, etc. and keep those figures high or you can not be stupid and not be part of the statistics. I choose not to be part of the statistics, myself. If you keep going into those areas that are high in the statistics, guess what, you are being stupid. Just go somewhere else and not bve stupid.

Not always possible. For instance my job takes me in high crime areas at times. It's work and nothing I can do about it. My hospital is also in a high crime area, but thousands of people go there every single day.

As for where I live, it was once one of the nicest suburbs in the city until the blacks moved in. It's not a high-crime area, but we have enough shootings for it to be a concern. So I stay armed especially if I have to go to the store or bank after dark.

Your work may have to stay that way until YOU decide to change it by either working with the community and authorities to clean it up or by taking another job elsewhere. It's a choice.

As for your home, that's strictly a choice on your part. You stay or leave, your choice. If the crime is that high then you can leave. Or you can work with the community and the Authorities to clean it up.

But just complaining about it and not working with the community and authorities to clean it up just took you to the (cue the music) "The Stupid Zone".

Haha...what fantasy world do you live in?
Liberal shithole cities never clean up, they only further degrade as more and more degenerates gravitate toward said liberal shithole. Politicians, Mayors and Police Chiefs simply decriminalize shit or stop making arrests to improve their spreadsheets. Don’t be a fool.

NYC went from the Murder Capital of the Word to the safest metro city in the world by the methods I mentioned. The citizens just got tired of stupid. You want to give credit to any one mayor but until the Citizens get tired and decide to do something about it, you can't fix stupid.

You have made the cut; cue the music for the"Stupid Zone"

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Then why have guns at all, if you're not using them for hunting or because you live on a farm?

Why buy life insurance when you're young? The vast majority will never use it.

Target shooting is fun. Skeet shooting is fun. Collecting is fun. There are a lot of reasons why people own guns. Self defense is an important, but far from the only, reason.

The only reason to buy life insurance when you're young is that you can get it at a much lower premium

Or you have a family you want to protect and you realize even young people die. But just like life insurance for the young is rarely needed, a gun for self defense will probably not be needed. But if it is, you're glad it's there.

A young person is better off buying disability insurance as he is more likely to be injured than die

I'm well aware of that, but that's deflecting from the point. The vast majority of young people will never use a life insurance policy, but the families of the few who do are very grateful they have it. Likewise, the vast majority of gun owners who carry weapons for self defense will never shoot another human being, but on the rare occasions when they need to, they're glad they had the option. Even most LEO will never shoot another human being, but we don't question their need to be armed.

False comparison fallacy.