What Is Wrong With Liberals??

[RKMBrown]

Part of the problem is that most people with half a brain aren't extremist but both parties are now being guided by their far (for lack of better term) "wacko" groups. I would bet most people are closer to the middle yet its the crazies who make the most noise and get the most attention. Time for moderates to make the noise to shut the extremists in the parties up.

bullshirt... there are many issues
On socialism, republicans are further left than democrats used to be thus.. republicans are moderates on that topic, with democrats being just right of communists.

On rights for minorities democrats have finally come full circle and now support the rights of all minorities, where the republicans are acting like nazis when it comes to gays.

On foreign occupations and wars on fear, the democrats are for it till they are not for it then they are against it for the purpose of getting elected, then for it again when in power,... soon they will be claiming they are the party that will get us out of war again.. as for the republicans on this issue they are controlled by the military industrial complex and we've got to kill human on the planet to be safe from fear war hawks.

On monopolies and oligopolies both parties are silent, while they collect payments from same.

On taxes neither party wants their constituents to pay em, and both parties want the money collected to go to their constituents in the form of hand-outs to purchase votes.

BOTH PARTIES SUCK

 

[Wyld Kard]

What Is Wrong With Liberals??

They have shit-for-brains and continually pretend to know what's best for everyone!

 

[Wyld Kard]

Liberals "love" America. They would just love it more if was like Cuba.

Liberals created America

It was Conservative policies that created Cuba

Liberals created America

What a load of BULLSHIT!

Our Founding Fathers who helped to create America were revolutionaries, NOT liberals.

 

[RKMBrown]

Liberals "love" America. They would just love it more if was like Cuba.

Liberals created America

It was Conservative policies that created Cuba

Liberals created America

What a load of BULLSHIT!

Our Founding Fathers who helped to create America were revolutionaries, NOT liberals.

Our Founding Fathers were on average classical liberals.. which we now call constitutional conservatives. Marxist communist POS assholes took over the democrat party, msm, and education systems in the US and redefined liberal to mean marxist communist POS assholes.

 

[BluesLegend]

Iraq wasn't about oil, now Libya was about oil SOS Clinton admitted it.

How on earth was Iraq not about oil?

Then again you're clearly backing up my point, that people will lie, and then people like you are willing to believe all the lies.

Because it wasn't, is that a trick question or something? And as I said Libya was absolutely about oil, our allies oil, its not a theory the SOS admitted it and yet was this 24/7 MSM news like it would have been if a Republican were in the White House, no of course not, it was crickets.

 

[Wyld Kard]

Liberals "love" America. They would just love it more if was like Cuba.

Liberals created America

It was Conservative policies that created Cuba

Liberals created America

What a load of BULLSHIT!

Our Founding Fathers who helped to create America were revolutionaries, NOT liberals.

Our Founding Fathers were on average classical liberals.. which we now call constitutional conservatives. Marxist communist POS assholes took over the democrat party, msm, and education systems in the US and redefined liberal to mean marxist communist POS assholes.

Our Founding Fathers were revolutionary because what they were doing had never, ever, ever been done before. No one had ever set up a government based on democracy, not tyranny, and let the people choose their governors was a completely new idea. Power hadn't ever been placed in the hands of the people. So they were revolutionaries in that their thinking was totally different from the norm, because they were creating a government based on democracy and republicanism and equality.

Maybe their philosophy of how they did things became known as "Classical Liberalism", but they were revolutionaries nonetheless.

 

[RKMBrown]

Liberals "love" America. They would just love it more if was like Cuba.

Liberals created America

It was Conservative policies that created Cuba

Liberals created America

What a load of BULLSHIT!

Our Founding Fathers who helped to create America were revolutionaries, NOT liberals.

Our Founding Fathers were on average classical liberals.. which we now call constitutional conservatives. Marxist communist POS assholes took over the democrat party, msm, and education systems in the US and redefined liberal to mean marxist communist POS assholes.

Liberals "love" America. They would just love it more if was like Cuba.

Liberals created America

It was Conservative policies that created Cuba

Liberals created America

What a load of BULLSHIT!

Our Founding Fathers who helped to create America were revolutionaries, NOT liberals.

Our Founding Fathers were on average classical liberals.. which we now call constitutional conservatives. Marxist communist POS assholes took over the democrat party, msm, and education systems in the US and redefined liberal to mean marxist communist POS assholes.

Our Founding Fathers were revolutionary because what they were doing had never, ever, ever been done before. No one had ever set up a government based on democracy, not tyranny, and let the people choose their governors was a completely new idea. Power hadn't ever been placed in the hands of the people. So they were revolutionaries in that their thinking was totally different from the norm, because they were creating a government based on democracy and republicanism and equality.

Maybe their philosophy of how they did things became known as "Classical Liberalism", but they were revolutionaries nonetheless.

democracy is tyranny of the majority

That's why we set up our government as a republic.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Because it wasn't, is that a trick question or something? And as I said Libya was absolutely about oil, our allies oil, its not a theory the SOS admitted it and yet was this 24/7 MSM news like it would have been if a Republican were in the White House, no of course not, it was crickets.

No, it's not a trick question.

Bush claimed it was about WMDs. What WMDs? There weren't any.

Look at the history of major intervention of the US since the end of the Cold War.

Kuwait (OPEC)
Afghanistan (not OPEC but had ibn Laden)
Iraq (OPEC)
Libya (OPEC)

On top of this you have sanctions and threats against Iran (OPEC) and helping a coup d'etat against Venezuela (OPEC) in 2002.

So, of all the OPEC countries who hated the US in 2001, all have suffered the wrath of the US. What about countries that aren't OPEC that hate the US? Well.... to be honest not much happened. In the past couple of decades the US has managed to avoid a lot of conflicts out there, such as the Ivory Coast.

Basically Colin Powell convinced people that intervention would only be carried out if US interests were at hand. What interests does the US have in the Middle East? Two. Israel and Oil. Iraq wasn't about Israel (which isn't to say that Israel asked for help or anything like that, but Israel was clearly not the main reason for going in).

 

[frigidweirdo]

What a load of BULLSHIT!

Our Founding Fathers who helped to create America were revolutionaries, NOT liberals.

The term "liberal" and "conservative" changes with the times. At the time, the Founding Fathers included some extremely liberal men. Think the norm being pro-Monarchy, anti-rights anti-everything to do with the working people.

 

[BluesLegend]

Because it wasn't, is that a trick question or something? And as I said Libya was absolutely about oil, our allies oil, its not a theory the SOS admitted it and yet was this 24/7 MSM news like it would have been if a Republican were in the White House, no of course not, it was crickets.

No, it's not a trick question.

Bush claimed it was about WMDs. What WMDs? There weren't any.

Look at the history of major intervention of the US since the end of the Cold War.

Kuwait (OPEC)
Afghanistan (not OPEC but had ibn Laden)
Iraq (OPEC)
Libya (OPEC)

On top of this you have sanctions and threats against Iran (OPEC) and helping a coup d'etat against Venezuela (OPEC) in 2002.

So, of all the OPEC countries who hated the US in 2001, all have suffered the wrath of the US. What about countries that aren't OPEC that hate the US? Well.... to be honest not much happened. In the past couple of decades the US has managed to avoid a lot of conflicts out there, such as the Ivory Coast.

Basically Colin Powell convinced people that intervention would only be carried out if US interests were at hand. What interests does the US have in the Middle East? Two. Israel and Oil. Iraq wasn't about Israel (which isn't to say that Israel asked for help or anything like that, but Israel was clearly not the main reason for going in).

Who claimed it was WMD's you only answered a fraction of that question. Bush claimed it was about WMD's AND so did congressional leaders in both parties AND so did leaders in many other countries AND so did intelligence agencies in many other countries not just ours AND it was later discovered Sadam was intentionally trying to make everyone think they had WMD's. When will the left stop intentionally lying and spinning this?

This is what I'm saying you can't have an honest discussion with the left because they are not honest, they lie and twist and distort intentionally.

 

[Redfish]

Iraq was about several things
1. oil
2. Saddam trying to kill Bush 41
3. bad intel
4. americas desire to get even for 9/11
5. the unfinished first gulf war

and remember, both parties authorized, funded, and supported that fiasco, just like they all supported the viet nam fiasco.

Bad intel because Bush told them to go find intel that proved what he needed. Perhaps revenge was there. But the big factor is that Bush wasn't the man pulling the strings, he was the puppet, and the puppet can only do so much.

not true. Unless you are saying that all of the following were also puppets: the UN, EU, UK, Germany, France, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Spain, Israel, Australia, Canada, et al.

Who is your "puppet master in the sky" who controlled all of these people, countries, and organizations? Was it the evil darth vader cheney? Its amazing what power you libs ascribe to that one man. your hate blocks your ability to think.

I get it that you hate Bush because he beat your clowns twice in close elections. But, how about preserving what little credibility you have by stopping the lies?

 

[Redfish]

What a load of BULLSHIT!

Our Founding Fathers who helped to create America were revolutionaries, NOT liberals.

The term "liberal" and "conservative" changes with the times. At the time, the Founding Fathers included some extremely liberal men. Think the norm being pro-Monarchy, anti-rights anti-everything to do with the working people.

by today's definitions the founders were extremely conservative.

you libs always use the term "working people" Do doctors, lawyers, business owners, teachers, and CEOs not "work" ? WTF does 'working people' mean?

 

[BluesLegend]

Iraq was about several things
1. oil
2. Saddam trying to kill Bush 41
3. bad intel
4. americas desire to get even for 9/11
5. the unfinished first gulf war

and remember, both parties authorized, funded, and supported that fiasco, just like they all supported the viet nam fiasco.

Bad intel because Bush told them to go find intel that proved what he needed. Perhaps revenge was there. But the big factor is that Bush wasn't the man pulling the strings, he was the puppet, and the puppet can only do so much.

not true. Unless you are saying that all of the following were also puppets: the UN, EU, UK, Germany, France, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Spain, Israel, Australia, Canada, et al.

Who is your "puppet master in the sky" who controlled all of these people, countries, and organizations? Was it the evil darth vader cheney? Its amazing what power you libs ascribe to that one man. your hate blocks your ability to think.

I get it that you hate Bush because he beat your clowns twice in close elections. But, how about preserving what little credibility you have by stopping the lies?

^^^ Exactly. Sadly the low life liberals and MSM have done a pretty good job of spewing this propaganda to the point many believe it as fact, some know it to be false but intentionally parrot the lies and distortions anyway. Its hard to tell them apart really.

 

[BluesLegend]

What a load of BULLSHIT!

Our Founding Fathers who helped to create America were revolutionaries, NOT liberals.

The term "liberal" and "conservative" changes with the times. At the time, the Founding Fathers included some extremely liberal men. Think the norm being pro-Monarchy, anti-rights anti-everything to do with the working people.

by today's definitions the founders were extremely conservative.

you libs always use the term "working people" Do doctors, lawyers, business owners, teachers, and CEOs not "work" ? WTF does 'working people' mean?

Liberals lie, begin with that baseline when dealing with them.

 

[frigidweirdo]

not true. Unless you are saying that all of the following were also puppets: the UN, EU, UK, Germany, France, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Spain, Israel, Australia, Canada, et al.

Who is your "puppet master in the sky" who controlled all of these people, countries, and organizations? Was it the evil darth vader cheney? Its amazing what power you libs ascribe to that one man. your hate blocks your ability to think.

I get it that you hate Bush because he beat your clowns twice in close elections. But, how about preserving what little credibility you have by stopping the lies?

Well, the UN is a free spending load of rubbish. I met a girl in Harare who was working in the DRC as a UN "volunteer". I asked how she afford to be volunteer there. She said she got paid a "living wage", oh, but the DRC is really expensive to live in though as everything has to be imported, and you have have to fly home every 6 weeks, yep, for every 5 weeks they worked they got one week holiday, and an income that included flights when judging how much you got paid.
I asked if they had danger money. Yep, that too. All in all the UN "volunteers" make a shed load more money than I do.

And then they need the big shiny new buildings to look important, and they need nice new shiny SUVs to drive around in to look important. Once they've spent all this money they're too exhausted to bother with doing anything worth while.

The UK, sometimes France and Spain, not very often German are puppets of the US and follow the US's lead. So too various others there.
Certainly Aznar's PP were kicked out of power because of the lies. Blair was clearly willing to follow anything the US did.

Who controlled them? "You're either with us, or against us" Bush said. Yeah, it's amazing how much power, some guy who happens to be C-in-C of the most expensive armed forces in the world, a country which spends more on military than the next eight or nine countries on the list of military spending PUT TOGETHER, has.

But on Iraq, most of those you mention didn't go with. Only Spain and the UK helped invade, if you actually knew what you were talking about you'd know this.

 

[saved]

My Dog helped me understand this;

I Just Realized Something:

My dog sleeps about 20 hours a day.
He has his food prepared for him.
His meals are provided at no cost to him.
He visits the doctor once a year for his checkup and again during the year, if any medical needs arise.
For this he pays nothing and nothing is required of him.
He lives in a nice neighborhood in a heated and cooled doghouse that is much larger than he needs, but he is not required to do any upkeep.
If he makes a mess, someone else cleans it up.
He has his choice of luxurious places to sleep.
He receives these accommodations absolutely free.
He is living like a king and has absolutely no expenses whatsoever.
All of his costs are picked up by others who earn a living.
I was just thinking about all this, and suddenly it hit me like a ton of bricks ~

MY dog is a LIBERAL DEMOCRAT!

 

[frigidweirdo]

^^^ Exactly. Sadly the low life liberals and MSM have done a pretty good job of spewing this propaganda to the point many believe it as fact, some know it to be false but intentionally parrot the lies and distortions anyway. Its hard to tell them apart really.

Propaganda point huh?

It wasn't about WMD, there weren't any.
It wasn't about humanitarian issues, the US doesn't give a damn.

What was it about? Being the world's police? Er... I don't think so, the US doesn't GIVE A DAMN

 

[frigidweirdo]

by today's definitions the founders were extremely conservative.

you libs always use the term "working people" Do doctors, lawyers, business owners, teachers, and CEOs not "work" ? WTF does 'working people' mean?

Well how many of the Founding Fathers are still alive then?

If I were talking about nowadays then I'd have made that clear, but I clearly am not. The terminology we're using, and it shouldn't be hard to grasp, is relative.

Liberal back in 1776 was a lot closer to conservatism now than it was then. Conservatism them was keep slavery, wipe out native americans and so on (wait, what's changed?)!!!

 

[BluesLegend]

by today's definitions the founders were extremely conservative.

you libs always use the term "working people" Do doctors, lawyers, business owners, teachers, and CEOs not "work" ? WTF does 'working people' mean?

Well how many of the Founding Fathers are still alive then?

If I were talking about nowadays then I'd have made that clear, but I clearly am not. The terminology we're using, and it shouldn't be hard to grasp, is relative.

Liberal back in 1776 was a lot closer to conservatism now than it was then. Conservatism them was keep slavery, wipe out native americans and so on (wait, what's changed?)!!!

You libs are a hoot, you claim the founders were horrible slave owning conservatives then you claim they are liberals I guess it depends on what liberal propaganda is being spun day to day.

 

[Redfish]

by today's definitions the founders were extremely conservative.

you libs always use the term "working people" Do doctors, lawyers, business owners, teachers, and CEOs not "work" ? WTF does 'working people' mean?

Well how many of the Founding Fathers are still alive then?

If I were talking about nowadays then I'd have made that clear, but I clearly am not. The terminology we're using, and it shouldn't be hard to grasp, is relative.

Liberal back in 1776 was a lot closer to conservatism now than it was then. Conservatism them was keep slavery, wipe out native americans and so on (wait, what's changed?)!!!

You libs are a hoot, you claim the founders were horrible slave owning conservatives then you claim they are liberals I guess it depends on what liberal propaganda is being spun day to day.

the liberal mind----------such a waste of brain cells.