Zone1 What is Wrong with Inequality?

[The Sage of Main Street]

Inequality exists and existed in every society. Things are not equal in nature or life. Quite the opposite. No hand of government can make it equal.

Inequality is not the harbinger of doom. Trying to right it in the name of egalitarianism is.

Birth-Class Biased Indentured Servitude

How about equalizing the rewards of natural talent, especially by making it unnecessary to become a workoholic zombie in order for the best human resources to achieve their potential?

 

[Concerned American]

There is no equity in "Survival of the fittest."

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Call it what you like - still centralized control of the means of production.

The House-Take at the Casino

So is Wall Street.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Who gives a shit?

I don't say that flippantly.

Out of Jealousy, Losing the Benefits of Funding Talent

If you have no talent yourself, you'll be pleased that richkids with no talent can overpower the talented.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Working class America had it good till 1980. Strong unions, affordable homes, affordable education, dependable healthcare, good pensions
Since then, wages have been stagnant, benefits cut, healthcare through the roof.

Hot Heir

It started in 1960 when a Prettyboy Preppy got elected over a self-made man.

 

[alang1216]

Why should you have the right to take the money that I worked hard to amass, Alang? If I choose to leave that to my family that should be MY right! I paid taxes on that money as it was made. I'll pay a tax on it when I die and it goes to my family. What right does anyone have to take MORE of that money in the name of "inequality"?

If you have more than $10 million to give to each kid, I'm sorry but I don't feel your pain or theirs.

 

[alang1216]

We do agree. See the 2024 election win and focus on reducing taxes.

Many of the cuts identified in the DOGE undertaking are spot on and great step in the right direction. Certainly the ones spending US tax dollars on foreign social non-sense programs.

Further tax cuts for charitable donations.

Advocate for a flat tax of some variety.

Eliminate entities like the Department of Education, USAID, etc.

That extra 1.5% isn't very much, look at the senate where the BBB couldn't even get all the GOP on board.

 

[Lisa558]

Hot Heir

It started in 1960 when a Prettyboy Preppy got elected over a self-made man.

His daddy bought him that election.

 

[alang1216]

You’re better off if you stop comparing yourself to people who have more than you, and grumbling about how “unfair” it is, and just make good decisions, be responsible, exercise discipline, obey laws, work hard, and do the best you can.

“Comparison is the thief of joy.”

I don't disagree but even if we do nothing we still have made a choice. I think there are better choices for our kids.

 

[Foxfyre]

Working class America had it good till 1980. Strong unions, affordable homes, affordable education, dependable healthcare, good pensions
Since then, wages have been stagnant, benefits cut, healthcare through the roof.

They had all that until a twisted left started fiddling with the system to achieve 'equality.' All they did was screw it up.

 

[alang1216]

You can't make the opportunities of policeman the same as the opportunities of a fast wood worker......so then what? You can't make the opportunity of a fast food worker the same as a day laborer.

My kids don't have opportunities that someone else does - others do have more than me.

Its not a call for .gov to make everything fair.

Life isn't fair, I get it. I also feel children shouldn't suffer because of the failures of their parents.

 

[Lisa558]

I don't disagree but even if we do nothing we still have made a choice. I think there are better choices for our kids.

The choice for our kids is to instill in them that they are responsible for their own decisions and actions - and that their focus is better spent on doing the best they can with what they have rather than look to more successful people to “share” their money with them.

 

[Concerned American]

The choice for our kids is to instill in them that they are responsible for their own decisions and actions - and that their focus is better spent on doing the best they can with what they have rather than look to more successful people to “share” their money with them.

The best that our children can expect from more successful people is how to emulate them.

 

[Lisa558]

Life isn't fair, I get it. I also feel children shouldn't suffer because of the failures of their parents.

What do you mean by “failures” of their parents?

 

[alang1216]

The choice for our kids is to instill in them that they are responsible for their own decisions and actions - and that their focus is better spent on doing the best they can with what they have rather than look to more successful people to “share” their money with them.

Our job as parents is to try and give kids a world in which they have the opportunity to succeed. For example, if all the farmland is owned by corporations they have little chance of buying a farm and becoming a farmer.

 

[Concerned American]

if all the farmland is owned by corporations they have little chance of buying a farm and becoming a farmer.

Can you cite something that has at least some basis in reality?

 

[alang1216]

What do you mean by “failures” of their parents?

Another of my pet peeves, probably not relevant here. I meant, for example, a parents failure to provide health insurance should not prevent the kid from getting healthcare.

 

[Concerned American]

I meant, for example, a parents failure to provide health insurance should not prevent the kid from getting healthcare.

You should look up kids that are in that boat and provide them with healthcare. Charity begins at home--not in the tax rolls.

 

[Man With A Plan]

If you have more than $10 million to give to each kid, I'm sorry but I don't feel your pain or theirs.

What is the limit that someone should be able to make, Alang?

 

[task0778]

Equality requires a brutal oppressive ultra-authoritarian government.

Throughout human history there have been many brutal and oppressive ultra-authoritarian gov'ts, but not once in all that time has there ever been equality. There has always been haves and have-nots in any kind of gov't and there always will be.