What is there to learn from history?

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Yup, Adolph, who used everybody, including Edward, never used the socialists in the party. Edward, you fucked up on Jefferson, you fucked up on conservatism, you accepted the ten thousand dollar bets and lost and welshed, and little one, you fucked up on this.

One, Hitler had the socialist leadership, which was homosexual, like you, murdered in the Night of Long Knives, almost two thousand dead. End fo the socialists in the party.

Two, Hitler killed and or interned socialists and communists, every one he could find.

Three, Hiter kissed capitalist ass, and the capitalists and corporatist supported him big time.

Four, Hitler nationalized NO industry in Germany.

Conclusions: (1) you are an idiot, (2) Hitler used the socialist and then killed them, and (3) you can go ahead and send your $10,000 to me via the Board management.

Any American who believes Hitler was a socialist is either mentally feeble, woefully ignorant, malignantly motivated, or any or all three.

actually, dear, Hitler was a National Socialist!!!!

See why we are 100% positive a liberal will be slow??

Hitler was a National Socialist!! What more do you want? Barry had two communist parents and voted to the left of Bernie Sanders, an open socialist.

Hitler Stalin Mao and to a lessor extent FDR LBJ were the great 20th Century liberals who got their way. So far Barry is not getting his way but we know his record and we know the government is never big enough for him.


“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” ~ Adolf Hitler, May 1st, 1927

On one occassion during WW2 Hitler even declared" basicially National Socialism and Marxism are the same" - Page 220 "Property and Freedom",Richard Pipes,Harvard University

can you tell us why our liberals spied for Stalin and not Hitler?

can you tell us why Jefferson gave us freedom from all big liberal governments?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Can you tell us why conservatives spied for Hitler?

Can you tell us why the Liberal, Jefferson, violated the Constitution as Vice-President, accepting the South Carolina electoral votes of 1800 when they were improper form, and why he approved the Louisiana Territory in violation yet again of the Constitution?

Thank you for admitting that failed with Hiter and ineffective socialist argument.

 

[Marhaba]

That history really repeats itself. Always.

 

[edthecynic]

That history really repeats itself. Always.

If history repeats itself, and the unexpected always happens, how incapable must Man be of learning from experience.
- George Bernard Shaw

 

[JakeStarkey]

Edward's affirmative silence indicates that he agrees he has lost, yet again.

Can you tell us why conservatives spied for Hitler?

Can you tell us why the Liberal, Jefferson, violated the Constitution as Vice-President, accepting the South Carolina electoral votes of 1800 when they were improper form, and why he approved the Louisiana Territory in violation yet again of the Constitution?

Thank you for admitting that failed with Hiter and ineffective socialist argument.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Can you tell us why conservatives spied for Hitler?

too stupid!! Conservatives are for small government while Hitler was for totalitarian government

Can you tell us why the Liberal, Jefferson, violated the Constitution as Vice-President, accepting the South Carolina electoral votes of 1800 when they were improper form,

gibberish and hardly important as to the value of Jefferson's central philosophy of freedom from liberal government

and why he approved the Louisiana Territory in violation yet again of the Constitution?

I see no violation and even if there was its hardly important as to the value of Jefferson's central philosophy of freedom from liberal government.

Go play basketball Jack






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[JakeStarkey]

Edward lost yet again. The facts are these:

The conservative corporatists supported Hitler.

The great conservative Jefferson violated the Constitution by improperly accepting the SC electoral votes and improperly purchased Louisiana. EB, show us where in the Constitution the delegated authority is given to the national government to purchase territorial property from another government.

I love smacking you around and down as you end up revealed as a stupid far right doosh.

 

[regent]

Gipper, all of that is true.

However, democracy with an enforcement of minority rights, remains the best form of government.

This talk of communism or libertarianism in America would only bring even more suffering.

Democracy you say? I do not want democracy in its most pure form. That is mob rule.

I prefer a representative republic with many checks and balances...sort of like the one our Founders designed.

I prefer a Constitution like the one Jefferson gave us that limits federal government to a few enumerated powers.

Jefferson was in France during the writing of the Constitution but I guess he tweeted a lot with Madison.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Democracy you say? I do not want democracy in its most pure form. That is mob rule.

I prefer a representative republic with many checks and balances...sort of like the one our Founders designed.

I prefer a Constitution like the one Jefferson gave us that limits federal government to a few enumerated powers.

Jefferson was in France during the writing of the Constitution but I guess he tweeted a lot with Madison.

too stupid!! but perfectly liberal!! Jefferson wrote the Declaration, mentored Madison who wrote the Constitution, and confirmed the Constitution in what he called the Second American Revolution!!

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow??


"The revolution of 1800... was as real a revolution in the principles of our government as that of 1776 was in its form; not effected indeed by the sword, as that, but by the rational and peaceable instrument of reform, the suffrage of the people." --Thomas Jefferson to Spencer Roane, 1819. ME 15:212

 

[JakeStarkey]

Jefferson did not like the Constitution because it granted the government too much power.

He went crazy when Chief Justice Marshall kicked Jefferson's ass with Marbury v. Madison.

EB, are you simply ignorant, or an outright liar about this stuff?

You have never written an OP on Jefferson that was not torn apart by historical application.

You are a moron.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Jefferson did not like the Constitution because it granted the government too much power.

Yes he was very very conservative even then when the government was tiny!! That is why he formed the Republican Party in 1792.

"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground."-Jefferson

He went crazy when Chief Justice Marshall kicked Jefferson's ass with Marbury v. Madison.

yes he did and all agree without question????????????????????????? although it is interesting to note that it did not become an important case till 100 years later according to Reinquist who thought it was the most important case ever. Of course I'm sure you have no idea why you brought it up or what your point is

EB, are you simply ignorant, or an outright liar about this stuff?

of course if true you would not be so afraid to explain exactly why for the whole world to see. What does your fear tell you??

You have never written an OP on Jefferson that was not torn apart by historical application.

You are a moron.

of course if so you would not be so afraid to present your best example for the whole world to see. What does your fear tell you??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Can you tell us why conservatives spied for Hitler?

too stupid!! Conservatives are for small government while Hitler was for totalitarian government

Can you tell us why the Liberal, Jefferson, violated the Constitution as Vice-President, accepting the South Carolina electoral votes of 1800 when they were improper form,

gibberish and hardly important as to the value of Jefferson's central philosophy of freedom from liberal government

and why he approved the Louisiana Territory in violation yet again of the Constitution?

I see no violation and even if there was its hardly important as to the value of Jefferson's central philosophy of freedom from liberal government.

Go play basketball Jack

 

[JakeStarkey]

Jefferson went big government and bought territory from another nation.

Anybody want to tell me where he had that power in the Constitution?

Jefferson showed his lack of character, when as VP he accepted the SC electoral votes that were clearly not in the style according to the Constitution.

Jefferson was a power mad president who had no respect for the Constitution.

Edward constantly reveals here that his OP has gone bust.

 

[gipper]

Go play basketball Jack

He doesn't PLAY basketball...he watches it on TV (in between playing teenage video games), while drinking cheap skunky beer and eating lots of cheetos.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Watching libertarian and extremist right fools act like they have a clue about history is entertaining.

TJ would piss on EB and the Gypper.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Jefferson went big government and bought territory from another nation.

too completely stupid!! big government and big country are not the same Jack!!!

Anybody want to tell me where he had that power in the Constitution?

it was not in the Constitution nor contemplated by the Founders so all the branches of government winged it when they saw a once in a millennium opportunity. It of course has nothing to do with the rectitude of his freedom philosophy. In fact, Jefferson saw it as a way for more people to be more distant from the federal government. Sorry jack!!

Jefferson showed his lack of character, when as VP he accepted the SC electoral votes that were clearly not in the style according to the Constitution.

don't really care about his character, just his philosophy, especially 200 years later Jack!! See why we say stupid??

Jefferson was a power mad president who had no respect for the Constitution.

gee and you clean forgot to give your best example. I wonder what that tells us about IQ and character of the liberal.

Edward constantly reveals here that his OP has gone bust.

gee and you clean forgot to give your best example of going bust. I wonder what that tells us about IQ and character of the liberal.

 

[JakeStarkey]

EB is a stupid 11 year old, I swear.

Big Government Jefferson broke the Constitution and bought the LA purchase: end of story, munchkin.

Character informs philosophy, munchkin, and Jefferson's was broken.

OP fail. Hey, I will bet you $10,000 that I will prove you a fool all through this thread.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Big Government Jefferson broke the Constitution and bought the LA purchase: end of story, munchkin.

1) entire world would do it again. What kind of ass would still be arguing against it 200 years later??

2) why blame Jefferson when entire government was involved anyway.

3) its 100% irrelevent anyway since it has nothing whatsoever to do with the philosophy of freedom he gifted to us. IF he was a hypocrite, so what ?? So is the guy who preaches against smoking while doing 3 packs a day.

Go play basketball Jack, these arguments are too subtle for a liberal to understand

 

[JakeStarkey]

The same ass who is arguing that Jefferson was some kind of modern day Republican.

Jefferson was president, Munchkin.

Jefferson's freedom was for whites to own blacks and to have children on slave women.

You have no idea at all about American history or our national narrative.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The same ass who is arguing that Jefferson was some kind of modern day Republican.

Jefferson formed the Republican Party in 1792 and started what he called the Second American Revolution. It was a revolution for freedom from all government, not just the government of England.

Modern Republicans stand for the exact same thing while modern Democrats stand for exactly the opposite of these founding principles which explains why they spied for Stalin and gave him the bomb.

Jefferson was president, Munchkin.

$10,000 if I disagreed?? Bet or run away??

Jefferson's freedom was for whites to own blacks and to have children on slave women.

that is called presentism. The whole world had slaves then dear. See why we say a liberal will be stupid??

You have no idea at all about American history or our national narrative.

Sure I do, Republicans stand for freedom, Democrats spied for Stalin, and Barry voted to the left of Bernie Sanders.

What more do you want to know Jake???