What is in Pandora's box?

[joaquinmiller]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Drunk or sober, he's right. All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt, and the GOP-controlled Senate is determined to keep any more evidence from coming out. If you're on the side that wants less information and less evidence, you're being played for a sucker.

 

[berg80]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Drunk or sober, he's right. All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt, and the GOP-controlled Senate is determined to keep any more evidence from coming out. If you're on the side that wants less information and less evidence, you're being played for a sucker.

Sometimes the smokescreen the Trump spin machine obscures the simple truth. Namely, they do not want all the evidence to be presented. That is not the kind of strategy innocent people employ.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Not so clever quips are not a substitute for the kind of factual refutation you are apparently incapable of.

Don't let Hillary know you're drinking her vodka.
You know how she gets.

Not so clever quips are not a substitute for the kind of factual refutation you are apparently incapable of. Geeeez, you folks have nothin'.

So we shouldn't investigate Biden, because Trump (and the country) would benefit?

 

[joaquinmiller]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Drunk or sober, he's right. All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt, and the GOP-controlled Senate is determined to keep any more evidence from coming out. If you're on the side that wants less information and less evidence, you're being played for a sucker.

Sometimes to smokescreen the Trump spin machine obscures the simple truth. Namely, they do not want all the evidence to be presented. That is not the kind of strategy innocent people employ.

Now the Senate is going to argue fear of an (unasserted) executive privilege claim as an excuse not to call witnesses. Given the fact that John Bolton has said he would honor a subpoena and appear, it's a dishonest argument, but that's all the fig leaf Republican senators want.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Drunk or sober, he's right. All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt, and the GOP-controlled Senate is determined to keep any more evidence from coming out. If you're on the side that wants less information and less evidence, you're being played for a sucker.

All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt,

Is that why the House wouldn't have the "whistleblower" testify, because.....evidence?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Drunk or sober, he's right. All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt, and the GOP-controlled Senate is determined to keep any more evidence from coming out. If you're on the side that wants less information and less evidence, you're being played for a sucker.

Sometimes to smokescreen the Trump spin machine obscures the simple truth. Namely, they do not want all the evidence to be presented. That is not the kind of strategy innocent people employ.

Namely, they do not want all the evidence to be presented.

But enough about the House Dems.

 

[berg80]

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Not so clever quips are not a substitute for the kind of factual refutation you are apparently incapable of.

Don't let Hillary know you're drinking her vodka.
You know how she gets.

Not so clever quips are not a substitute for the kind of factual refutation you are apparently incapable of. Geeeez, you folks have nothin'.

So we shouldn't investigate Biden, because Trump (and the country) would benefit?

You still don't get it. The idea behind even mentioning an investigation of Biden.............WITHOUT A SHRED OF A CREDIBLE REASON FOR IT...........is to smear Biden without evidence.

Individual 1 may have failed in his efforts to get Ukraine to announce an investigation.............BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER NOW BECAUSE TRUMPETTE'S ARE OFF AND RUNNING WITH THE IDEA...........WITHOUT BEING GIVEN ANY FACTUAL PREDICATE WHATSOEVER.

 

[joaquinmiller]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Drunk or sober, he's right. All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt, and the GOP-controlled Senate is determined to keep any more evidence from coming out. If you're on the side that wants less information and less evidence, you're being played for a sucker.

All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt,

Is that why the House wouldn't have the "whistleblower" testify, because.....evidence?

The whistleblower's report - illegally withheld from Congress by the administration - has been confirmed by testimony and the partial transcript released by the White House. If you think he would add to the evidence, please request your Senators to call him as a witness, along with Bolton, Mulvaney and Duffy.

Just kidding - Trump and the Republicans don't want any more evidence or testimony. You're being played for a sucker.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Drunk or sober, he's right. All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt, and the GOP-controlled Senate is determined to keep any more evidence from coming out. If you're on the side that wants less information and less evidence, you're being played for a sucker.

Sometimes to smokescreen the Trump spin machine obscures the simple truth. Namely, they do not want all the evidence to be presented. That is not the kind of strategy innocent people employ.

Now the Senate is going to argue fear of an (unasserted) executive privilege claim as an excuse not to call witnesses. Given the fact that John Bolton has said he would honor a subpoena and appear, it's a dishonest argument, but that's all the fig leaf Republican senators want.

Given the fact that John Bolton has said he would honor a subpoena and appear, it's a dishonest argument,

Bolton's willingness eliminates executive privilege?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Not so clever quips are not a substitute for the kind of factual refutation you are apparently incapable of.

Don't let Hillary know you're drinking her vodka.
You know how she gets.

Not so clever quips are not a substitute for the kind of factual refutation you are apparently incapable of. Geeeez, you folks have nothin'.

So we shouldn't investigate Biden, because Trump (and the country) would benefit?

You still don't get it. The idea behind even mentioning an investigation of Biden.............WITHOUT A SHRED OF A CREDIBLE REASON FOR IT...........is to smear Biden without evidence.

Individual 1 may have failed in his efforts to get Ukraine to announce an investigation.............BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER NOW BECAUSE TRUMPETTE'S ARE OFF AND RUNNING WITH THE IDEA...........WITHOUT BEING GIVEN ANY FACTUAL PREDICATE WHATSOEVER.

You still don't get it. The idea behind even mentioning an investigation of Biden.............WITHOUT A SHRED OF A CREDIBLE REASON FOR IT...........is to smear Biden without evidence.


Oh, so it's like the Steele dossier.....

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

The usual load of bullshit. There is zero evidence against Trump, shit for brains.

1. Trump empowered Giuliani to employ the help of various members of the US diplomatic contingent to Ukraine, and some who were not part of that contingent, to put pressure on Ukraine to announce an investigation in to Joe Biden. A campaign that began in the spring of 2019. Trump directed Ukraine pressure, US diplomat says
2. Leverage was used, at Trump's direction, as a means to get Ukraine to acquiesce to Trump's requests in the form of the withholding of military aid authorized by Congress.
"Clear direction from POTUS to continue hold."
https://www.justsecurity.org/67863/...ts-reveal-extent-of-pentagons-legal-concerns/
3. Resulting from the WB complaint, a summary of the transcript of the Zelensky call was released revealing Trump speaking to Zelensky about the investigations he wanted Ukraine to announce. A transcript WH officials tried to hide from other members of the government and the public by placing it in a code level secret server typically used for keeping national security matters secret. AP FACT CHECK: Trump's flawed 'read the transcript' defense
4. Trump and Sondland were overheard discussing the efforts to get Ukraine to announce an investigation in to Biden.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/21/imp...ow-he-overheard-trump-call-with-sondland.html
5. Officials in the admin and the Pentagon expressed concern the hold was illegal.
https://publicintegrity.org/nationa...rried-ukraine-aid-halt-violated-spending-law/
A GAO analysis of the laws pertaining to the hold found it was, in their opinion, illegal.
6. Ukrainian officials asked about the aid on the day Trump called Zelensky when he said, "I need you to do us a favor though," prior to asking Ukraine to investigate Biden (and the server).
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/20/ukr...ump-zelenskiy-call-impeachment-testimony.html
7. Part time, acting Chief-of-Staff Mick Mulvaney publicly acknowledged the quid pro quo.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/17/poli...d-pro-quo-donald-trump-ukraine-aid/index.html
So did EU ambassador Sondland.
Sondland acknowledges Ukraine quid pro quo, implicates Trump, Pence, Pompeo and others
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...741e3c-0b92-11ea-8397-a955cd542d00_story.html
8. US Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch was relieved of her post by Trump as a result of a smear campaign launched against her by Giuliani because she posed on obstacle to carrying out the scheme to extort Ukraine. Defiant Yovanovitch says she was ‘kneecapped’ amid Trump 'smear campaign'
Lev Parnas recently stated her removal was directed as a payoff to get a Ukrainian official to produce dirt on Biden. https://slate.com/news-and-politics...risma-biden-dirt-fire-ukraine-ambassador.html
9. All of the 17 witnesses who testified during the House inquiry corroborate 1-8.
10. If any of the witnesses or documentary evidence Trump has blocked as part of his obstruction of the investigation can offer a refutation of the evidence above it is his prerogative to present it.
11. The solicitation of help in a US election from a foreign person or government is illegal.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...s-illegality-of-soliciting-campaign-help-from

And much, much more.

Lolololollol the Trump yelling on a cellphone as evidence!!! Fucking priceless!!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Drunk or sober, he's right. All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt, and the GOP-controlled Senate is determined to keep any more evidence from coming out. If you're on the side that wants less information and less evidence, you're being played for a sucker.

All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt,

Is that why the House wouldn't have the "whistleblower" testify, because.....evidence?

The whistleblower's report - illegally withheld from Congress by the administration - has been confirmed by testimony and the partial transcript released by the White House. If you think he would add to the evidence, please request your Senators to call him as a witness, along with Bolton, Mulvaney and Duffy.

Just kidding - Trump and the Republicans don't want any more evidence or testimony. You're being played for a sucker.

The whistleblower's report - illegally withheld from Congress by the administration - has been confirmed by testimony

Hasn't been confirmed by his testimony.

 

[joaquinmiller]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Drunk or sober, he's right. All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt, and the GOP-controlled Senate is determined to keep any more evidence from coming out. If you're on the side that wants less information and less evidence, you're being played for a sucker.

Sometimes to smokescreen the Trump spin machine obscures the simple truth. Namely, they do not want all the evidence to be presented. That is not the kind of strategy innocent people employ.

Now the Senate is going to argue fear of an (unasserted) executive privilege claim as an excuse not to call witnesses. Given the fact that John Bolton has said he would honor a subpoena and appear, it's a dishonest argument, but that's all the fig leaf Republican senators want.

Given the fact that John Bolton has said he would honor a subpoena and appear, it's a dishonest argument,

Bolton's willingness eliminates executive privilege?

No one from the executive branch has claimed executive privilege, and Bolton is free to honor a subpoena if he wants.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Drunk or sober, he's right. All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt, and the GOP-controlled Senate is determined to keep any more evidence from coming out. If you're on the side that wants less information and less evidence, you're being played for a sucker.

Sometimes to smokescreen the Trump spin machine obscures the simple truth. Namely, they do not want all the evidence to be presented. That is not the kind of strategy innocent people employ.

Now the Senate is going to argue fear of an (unasserted) executive privilege claim as an excuse not to call witnesses. Given the fact that John Bolton has said he would honor a subpoena and appear, it's a dishonest argument, but that's all the fig leaf Republican senators want.

Given the fact that John Bolton has said he would honor a subpoena and appear, it's a dishonest argument,

Bolton's willingness eliminates executive privilege?

No one from the executive branch has claimed executive privilege, and Bolton is free to honor a subpoena if he wants.

They should definitely call him...…...and Hunter.

 

[joaquinmiller]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Drunk or sober, he's right. All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt, and the GOP-controlled Senate is determined to keep any more evidence from coming out. If you're on the side that wants less information and less evidence, you're being played for a sucker.

All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt,

Is that why the House wouldn't have the "whistleblower" testify, because.....evidence?

The whistleblower's report - illegally withheld from Congress by the administration - has been confirmed by testimony and the partial transcript released by the White House. If you think he would add to the evidence, please request your Senators to call him as a witness, along with Bolton, Mulvaney and Duffy.

Just kidding - Trump and the Republicans don't want any more evidence or testimony. You're being played for a sucker.

The whistleblower's report - illegally withheld from Congress by the administration - has been confirmed by testimony

Hasn't been confirmed by his testimony.

It has been confirmed by those witnesses who testified under oath. It hasn't been disputed by anyone under oath, though a certain loudmouthed crackpot has said it's not accurate. You're already being played for a sucker - no need to play stupid.

 

[Zander]

LWNJ's....they really are suffering as Trump keeps his promises.

I feel sorry for the fools.

 

[berg80]

What could we learn from all those documents and all the witness testimony Dems are requesting?

If the evidence the Orange Fraud is obstructing was beneficial to him logic dictates he allow it to be revealed.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

It shows Baby Donald did exactly what he is accused of doing.

And that is why he doesn't want Pandora's box to be opened.

But every bit of documentary evidence and every witness's testimony revealed thus far shows Don's guilt.

Little early to be drinking, ain't it?

Drunk or sober, he's right. All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt, and the GOP-controlled Senate is determined to keep any more evidence from coming out. If you're on the side that wants less information and less evidence, you're being played for a sucker.

Sometimes to smokescreen the Trump spin machine obscures the simple truth. Namely, they do not want all the evidence to be presented. That is not the kind of strategy innocent people employ.

Now the Senate is going to argue fear of an (unasserted) executive privilege claim as an excuse not to call witnesses. Given the fact that John Bolton has said he would honor a subpoena and appear, it's a dishonest argument, but that's all the fig leaf Republican senators want.

Given the fact that John Bolton has said he would honor a subpoena and appear, it's a dishonest argument,

Bolton's willingness eliminates executive privilege?

EP has not been invoked. Trump is waiting to invoke it until after the courts rule witnesses must comply with lawful subpoenas.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Drunk or sober, he's right. All the evidence so far reveals Trump's guilt, and the GOP-controlled Senate is determined to keep any more evidence from coming out. If you're on the side that wants less information and less evidence, you're being played for a sucker.

Sometimes to smokescreen the Trump spin machine obscures the simple truth. Namely, they do not want all the evidence to be presented. That is not the kind of strategy innocent people employ.

Now the Senate is going to argue fear of an (unasserted) executive privilege claim as an excuse not to call witnesses. Given the fact that John Bolton has said he would honor a subpoena and appear, it's a dishonest argument, but that's all the fig leaf Republican senators want.

Given the fact that John Bolton has said he would honor a subpoena and appear, it's a dishonest argument,

Bolton's willingness eliminates executive privilege?

No one from the executive branch has claimed executive privilege, and Bolton is free to honor a subpoena if he wants.

They should definitely call him...…...and Hunter.

They won't. They're scared. They know Trump is guilty. They also know they're going to acquit him, so they think they will suffer less political damage if the acquittal happens before additional evidence comes out. And it will come out, through FOIA requests, leaks, testimony in other legal actions - such as the prosecutions of Parnas and Fruman. Then when it does come out, some disingenuous Rs can say, "I didn't know!"

 

[berg80]

LWNJ's....they really are suffering as Trump keeps his promises.

I feel sorry for the fools.

Like this promise?

Trump Opens Door to Cuts to Medicare and Other Entitlement Programs
The president signaled a willingness to scale back Medicare, a shift from his 2016 platform of protecting entitlement programs.
Trump Opens Door to Cuts to Medicare and Other Entitlement Programs

 

[berg80]

Sometimes to smokescreen the Trump spin machine obscures the simple truth. Namely, they do not want all the evidence to be presented. That is not the kind of strategy innocent people employ.

Now the Senate is going to argue fear of an (unasserted) executive privilege claim as an excuse not to call witnesses. Given the fact that John Bolton has said he would honor a subpoena and appear, it's a dishonest argument, but that's all the fig leaf Republican senators want.

Given the fact that John Bolton has said he would honor a subpoena and appear, it's a dishonest argument,

Bolton's willingness eliminates executive privilege?

No one from the executive branch has claimed executive privilege, and Bolton is free to honor a subpoena if he wants.

They should definitely call him...…...and Hunter.

They won't. They're scared. They know Trump is guilty. They also know they're going to acquit him, so they think they will suffer less political damage if the acquittal happens before additional evidence comes out. And it will come out, through FOIA requests, leaks, testimony in other legal actions - such as the prosecutions of Parnas and Fruman. Then when it does come out, some disingenuous Rs can say, "I didn't know!"

Or they'll say "yes he did it, but I didn't care when I voted to acquit and I don't care now."