What Is Genocide?

[Sherlock Holmes]

And I asked what quote something I wrote that called them that. Or you're a liar.

I never said you literally called them liars, I said you effectively did, then I explained that to you but you're still very confused.

Tell me what an antisemite is?

 

[Hollie]

It was the two state solution, that was in place until Jordan, Syria et al invaded and lost bigly

They really screwed over the Palintinian people. they didn't want the two state solution. we shouldn't give it to them now then

Yes. And there's an obvious reason why neighboring Arab-Moslem countries treat the al'istanians" with revulsion. Many of those Arab-Moslem nations have had experiences with the Pallys they don't want repeated.

Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt and other Arab-Moslem nations have no intention of bearing the political and socio-economic burden of their former countrymen. Jordan in particular has a long memory for that Black September dalliance when the Egyptian who invented 'Palestinians' tried to overthrow their government

 

[Kruska]

Over the deep edge there, Krusty. Learn something you're ignorant about.

Hitler’s Mufti​

Hajj Amin al-Husseini recruited whole divisions of fanatics to fight and kill in the name of extremism.​

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Those weren't Arabs you idiot - but Bosnian, Albanian and Montenegrin's

And they volunteered and were recruited, because they wanted to defend their homes and families against Serbian partisans, who had committed numerous atrocities against them, whilst a large part of them was used by Hitler to fight the Soviets.

Those Egyptian & Arab spies, saboteurs and insurgents aka the German-Arab training unit, to fight the Brits in the Middle-east - were not recruited by Amin al-Husseini - but directly via the German Arab Bureau in Berlin. - you idiotic Zionist apologist.

You obviously don't know anything.

 

[struth]

The Arabs never accepted the partition plan, it was a violation of the people's right to self determination once the British mandate ended.

Such a "solution" could have been put to the vote, but it was not, it was imposed by outside colonial powers, that's a breach of the UN charter in that it denies the right to self determination. There was no effort to have the people of Palestine vote on partitioning. The goal was always to colonize Palestine and nothing has changed, the Zionists are once again in Syria and Lebanon and are today continuing to create "settlements" illegally.

The Palestinians do not want to be "given" anything they simply want that which was taken to be returned.

Syria et al didnt like it....they are seperate countries....that blew it for the people of Palistine...

There was a vote in the UN. The entire reason we had a UN created was to do this sort of thing and avoid war, the Arabs however just wanted war, and they lost.

Why do they want it back? They lost, that's what happens in wars....they should have not allowed the Arab neighors to invade. They lost. Takei it up with Syria and Jordan et al

 

[Hollie]

The Arabs never accepted the partition plan, it was a violation of the people's right to self determination once the British mandate ended.

Such a "solution" could have been put to the vote, but it was not, it was imposed by outside colonial powers, that's a breach of the UN charter in that it denies the right to self determination. There was no effort to have the people of Palestine vote on partitioning. The goal was always to colonize Palestine and nothing has changed, the Zionists are once again in Syria and Lebanon and are today continuing to create "settlements" illegally.

The Palestinians do not want to be "given" anything they simply want that which was stolen to be returned.

Nothing was taken from the arab-moslem occupiers. Occupying land formally under the control of the Ottoman's did not grant any squatters rights to the arabs-moslems. They never had any sovereign territory so nothing was taken from them.

 

[Hollie]

Those weren't Arabs you idiot - but Bosnian, Albanian and Montenegrin's

And they volunteered and were recruited, because they wanted to defend their homes and families against Serbian partisans, who had committed numerous atrocities against them, whilst a large part of them was used by Hitler to fight the Soviets.

Those Egyptian & Arab spies, saboteurs and insurgents aka the German-Arab training unit, to fight the Brits in the Middle-east - were not recruited by Amin al-Husseini - but directly via the German Arab Bureau in Berlin. - you idiotic Zionist apologist.

You obviously don't know anything.

Yuo obviously have no clue of the history. The Mufti was tasked with assembling arabs-Moslems sympathetic to the Nazi cause.from the link I previously gave you,

"Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish people in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: “The Jews are yours.” (Ami Isseroff and Peter FitzGerald-Morris, “The Iraq Coup Attempt of 1941, the Mufti, and the Farhud”)"

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Syria et al didnt like it....they are seperate countries....that blew it for the people of Palistine...

There was a vote in the UN. The entire reason we had a UN created was to do this sort of thing and avoid war, the Arabs however just wanted war, and they lost.

It was a violation of the UN charter to impose a partition plan because the UN charter defines self determination as a fundamental right.

Just as today the powerful veto wielding nations violate the UN charter, they were doing so back then.

Why do they want it back? They lost, that's what happens in wars....they should have not allowed the Arab neighors to invade. They lost. Takei it up with Syria and Jordan et al

In case you haven't been told, there are countless resolutions condemning Israel's illegal occupation. You just cited the UN as the basis for authority and now you choose to push it aside, how odd....

 

[struth]

It was a violation of the UN charter to impose a partition plan because the UN charter defines self determination as a fundamental right.

Just as today the powerful veto wielding nations violate the UN charter, they were doing so back then.

In case you haven't been told, there are countless resolutions condemning Israel's illegal occupation. You just cited the UN as the basis for authority and now you choose to push it aside, how odd....

1) Well they made their own self-determination, and this where they are.
2) We should get rid of the UN
3) I have been told, see post number 2.

 

[Hollie]

It was a violation of the UN charter to impose a partition plan because the UN charter defines self determination as a fundamental right.

Just as today the powerful veto wielding nations violate the UN charter, they were doing so back then.

In case you haven't been told, there are countless resolutions condemning Israel's illegal occupation. You just cited the UN as the basis for authority and now you choose to push it aside, how odd....

"It was a violation of the UN charter to impose a partition plan because the UN charter defines self determination as a fundamental right."

Nonsense. It was the UN which assumed admistrative control after the expiration of the British Mandate.

It was the UN proposing a partition plan. The Israelis established self-determination.

The arab-moslem tribes could not.

 

[Kruska]

Nothing was taken from the arab-moslem occupiers. Occupying land formally under the control of the Ottoman's did not grant any squatters rights to the arabs-moslems. They never had any sovereign territory so nothing was taken from them.

And the Jewish squatters? where did they have any sovereign territory?

There where around 15,000 Jews living in British mandated Palestine and around 600,000 Palestinians, Arabs and Bedouin's in 1917. Having tribal and personal property rights attested and DOCUMENTED to them during Ottoman rule.

Like I stated already - you don't know what you talk about, only spewing indoctrinated hatred, aka the well known Zionist bull.

Easily identifiable via the Zionist propaganda term, "squatters", and the Zionist standard lie "They never had any sovereign territory".
Displaying the same racist mentality of those European colonialists in the New World and wherever they robbed other peoples (indigenous) lands and killing them.

 

[jc456]

You're obviously too dumb as well, to read
I had already stated:

Yes - just like the French under Petain, or e.g. Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh and those many others in the USA.

So now tell me - nitwit - who did those Nazi's in the USA try to get rid off?, their British occupiers like the Arabs??
You are clearly just a moron. And a Zionist apologist on top.

Deflecting

 

[jc456]

I never said you literally called them liars, I said you effectively did, then I explained that to you but you're still very confused.

Quote it!

 

[Hollie]

And the Jewish squatters? where did they have any sovereign territory?

There where around 15,000 Jews living in British mandated Palestine and around 600,000 Palestinians, Arabs and Bedouin's in 1917. Having tribal and personal property rights attested and DOCUMENTED to them during Ottoman rule.

Like I stated already - you don't know what you talk about, only spewing indoctrinated hatred, aka the well known Zionist bull.

Easily identifiable via the Zionist propaganda term, "squatters", and the Zionist standard lie "They never had any sovereign territory".
Displaying the same racist mentality of those European colonialists in the New World and wherever they robbed other peoples (indigenous) lands and killing them.

Poor, angry Krusty. The Jewish people established self-determination on May 14, 1948.

 

[jc456]

The Arabs never accepted the partition plan, it was a violation of the people's right to self determination once the British mandate ended.

Hence no two state solution. Period end of argument

 

[gipper]

The genocide is so appalling. Made worse by the idiots here who ignorantly support it, but should know better.

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[Hollie]

The genocide is so appalling. Made worse by the idiots here who ignorantly support it, but should know better.

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One More Dead Palestinian Kid They killed a two year-old girl in the West Bank on Saturday. Laila al-Khatib was shot in the head by Israeli forces in Jenin, because I guess they needed one more dead Palestinian kid. One more dead Palestinian kid to add to the mountain. One more small...

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The "genocide" slogan is getting old, Bunky. There is no indication of what happened or if this is a fake news story.

 

[Kruska]

Yuo obviously have no clue of the history. The Mufti was tasked with assembling arabs-Moslems sympathetic to the Nazi cause.from the link I previously gave you,

That link of yours gives no sources and no accounts of anything - just a headline. - obviously you didn't even read it.

"Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish people in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: “The Jews are yours.” (Ami Isseroff and Peter FitzGerald-Morris, “The Iraq Coup Attempt of 1941, the Mufti, and the Farhud”)"

The Mufti was absolutely aware about the Zionist policy and it's intentions. Being aware of them continuously entering British Palestine drove him into Hitlers arms - so you need to thank the Brits in the first place.

From as early as 1920, he actively opposed Zionism,

In 1921, Herbert Samuel, the British High Commissioner appointed him Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, a position he used to promote Islam while rallying a non-confessional Arab nationalism against Zionism

He was considered an important ally by the British authorities. His appointment by the British for the role of grand mufti of all Palestine (a new role established by the British) helped divide the Palestinian leadership structure and national movement
In 1937, evading an arrest warrant for aligning himself as leader of the 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine against British rule, he fled and took refuge in Lebanon and afterwards Iraq. He then established himself in Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, which he collaborated with during World War II against Britain, requesting during a meeting with Adolf Hitler backing for Arab independence and opposition to the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine

Hitler's Englandpolitik essentially precluded significant assistance to Arab leaders. This care for treating with respect English colonial initiatives (like the promotion of Zionist immigration) was also linked to Nazi ambitions to drive Jews out of Europe.

And it is very well known and documented that the Mufti lacked any major support amongst Arabs and Palestinians.

BTW, show me a recruiting list - confirming Arabs to have been recruited by the Mufti and then send to the SS or Wehrmacht.

Ah... don't bother, you are a proven Zionist mouthpiece uttering one lie upon another, aka you're a waste of time to anyone with an education and a profound Middle-east historic knowledge.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Hence no two state solution. Period end of argument

Hence Oct 7th type attacks. Period end of argument.

 

[Kruska]

Deflecting

No YOU are trying to - I hadn't deflected anything you moron.

 

[jc456]

Hence Oct 7th type attacks. Period end of argument.

Hence retaliation, stop whining