Zone1 What Is All This "Christian Nation" Stuff?

Your post is correct and accurate, yes. The trouble is the conclusion you reach from those facts.

Having just escaped the tyranny of The Church Of England, many or most were aware of the tyranny under organized (in this case Christian) religion. They wanted to avoid that in the New World by keeping the government NEUTRAL in religious matters. Do you understand that?
As I am generous to a fault, I will provide some of the factual history that the cultural Marxism of government schooling deprived you of.



The Constitution provides for an observance of the Sabbath in its Presentment Clause, mandating that the President has ten days, excluding Sundays, to veto a bill lest it become binding.

And the instrument was framed with a view to the Declaration, which unequivocally bestows gratitude on the God of the Bible for America's independence.



1. The most quoted source was the Bible. Established in the original writings of our Founding Fathers we find that they discovered in Isaiah 33:22 the three branches of government: Isaiah 33:22 ā€œFor the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.ā€ Here we see the judicial, the legislative and the executive branches. In Ezra 7:24 we see where they established the tax exempt status of the church: Ezra 7:24 ā€œAlso we certify you, that touching any of the priests and Levites, singers, porters, Nethinims, or ministers of this house of God, it shall not be lawful to impose toll, tribute, or custom, upon them.ā€

When we look at our Constitution we see in Article 4 Section 4 that we are guaranteed a Republican form of government, that was found in Exodus 18 ā€œMoreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens:ā€ This indicates that we are to choose, or elect God fearing men and women. Looking at Article 3 Section 3 we see almost word for word Deuteronomy 17:6: ā€˜No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses. . .’ Deuteronomy 17:6 ā€œAt the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses. . .ā€. The next paragraph in Article 3 Section 3 refers to who should pay the price for treason. In England, they could punish the sons for the trespasses of the father, if the father died.

Roger Anghis -- Bring America Back To Her Religious Roots, Part 7



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This question was asked by political science professors at the University of Houston. They rightfully felt that they could determine the source of the Founders’ ideas if they could collect the writings from the Founding Era and see whom the Founders were quoting.

The researchers assembled 15,000 writings from the founding Era – no small sample – and searched those writings. That project spanned ten years; but at the end of that time, the researchers had isolated 3,154 direct quotes made by the Founders and had identified the source of those quotes.

The researchers discovered that Baron Charles de Montesquieu was the man quoted most often by the founding fathers, with 8.3 percent of the Founders’ quotes being taken from his writings. Sir William Blackstone was the second most-quoted individual with 7.9 percent of the Founder’s quotes, and John Locke was third with 2.9 percent.

Surprisingly, the researchers discovered that the founders quoted directly out of the bible 4 times more than they quoted Montesquieu, 4 times more often than they quoted Blackstone, and 12 times more often than they quoted John Locke. Thirty four percent of the Founders’ quotes came directly out of the bible.

The study was even more impressive when the source of the ideas used by Montesquieu, Blackstone, and Locke were identified. Consider for example, the source of Blackstone’s ideas. Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws was first introduced in 1768, and for the next 100 years America’s courts quoted Blackstone to settle disputes, to define words, and to examine procedure; Blackstone’s Commentaries were the final word in the Supreme Courts. So what was a significant source of Blackstone’s ideas? Perhaps the best answer to that question can be given through the life of Charles Finney.

Charles Finney is known as a famous revivalist, minister, and preacher from one of America’s greatest revivals; the Second Great Awakening in the early 1800’s. Finney, in his autobiography, spoke of how he received his call to ministry. He explained that – having determined to become a lawyer – he, like all other law students at the time, commenced the study of Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws. Finney observed that Blackstone’s Commentaries not only provided the laws, it also provided the Biblical concepts on which those laws were based. Finney explained that in the process of studying Blackstone, he read so much of the Bible that he became a Christian and received his call to the ministry. Finney’s life story clearly identified a major source of Blackstone’s ideas for law.

So, while 34% of the Founders’ quotes came directly out of the Bible, many of their quotes were taken from men – like Blackstone – who had used the Bible to arrive at their own conclusions.ā€

This doesn’t even include Supreme Court decisions, Congressional records, speeches, inaugurations, etc. all of which include sources of Biblical content and concepts. I can produce those as well, if need be ,as well as what was taught in American schools for the first 175 years.

Bear in mind, the above is not some made up opinion, it is well documented, irrefutable research into actual quotes from the Founders.
Sources:
David Barton, Original Intent, 1997
Donald Lutz, The Origins of American Constitutionalism 1988
ā€œThe Relative Influence of European Writers on Late Eighteenth Century American Political Thoughtā€ American Political Science Review



You should take notes.

 
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God was testing Abraham, and would have resurrected Isaac on the spot if Abraham had actually killed him. Recall that Isaac was a type of Christ whom God resurrected.
they like the liar moses defied the heavens ... nutz, the desert religions - worship those who defy the heavens than the heavenly.

you are not alone, sadly those two abraham, hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid - moses their false commandments are exemplars of the desert religions ... neither hold a candle for who the heavens have truly chosen as their representatives.
 
you are not alone, sadly those two abraham, hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid - moses their false commandments are exemplars of the desert religions ... neither hold a candle for who the heavens have truly chosen as their representatives.
Are you hinting that you are that representative? If so, I'm not standing near you during a thunderstorm. :omg:
 
Are you hinting that you are that representative? If so, I'm not standing near you during a thunderstorm. :omg:
you are not alone, sadly those two abraham, hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid - moses their false commandments are exemplars of the desert religions ...

surly, for reason, the thunderstorm gives you the quivers so much the better for those who are not sinners ...
 
surly, for reason, the thunderstorm gives you the quivers so much the better for those who are not sinners ...
No one should be out in a thunderstorm.

Please answer the question. Are you the one chosen by God to bring the real skinny to mankind?
 
really, as stated not everyone needs to be frightened by them just the sinners - in florida who will not walk in the rain most likely will starve to death.
And you don't believe that saying things like this qualifies you as a religious nutjob. SMH.
 
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^^^ that ^^^
 
really, as stated not everyone needs to be frightened by them just the sinners - in florida who will not walk in the rain most likely will starve to death.
Sorry. Unable to make sense of this statement.
 
Trump is offering Zelensky security and protection in return for those minerals. Trump puts America first and expects those who receive our help to do their fair share. If you call that swindling, I sure as hell don't want you working for me or with me on anything.

swindling is only the tip of the iceberg ...

The Oval Office shouting match has for now shattered hopes for the minerals deal, which Trump and his allies had presented as an important step forward for Ukraine on the road to peace with Russia more than three years after the war began ...

so sad, the christian gov't were already counting other peoples possessions as their own.

caught red handed in the cookie jar, their duplicity to steal from those in need and their criminal act being displayed nation wide over the national and world medias.

europe is having a heyday over the debacle.
 
swindling is only the tip of the iceberg ...



so sad, the christian gov't were already counting other peoples possessions as their own.

caught red handed in the cookie jar, their duplicity to steal from those in need and their criminal act being displayed nation wide over the national and world medias.

europe is having a heyday over the debacle.
Sorry. I have no idea what you're saying here. I suspect you don't know what you're saying here.
 
Sorry. I have no idea what you're saying here. I suspect you don't know what you're saying here.

often the plea when caught red handed - their back room dealing when brought to the lite of day ...

ā€œYou either make a deal or we are out,ā€ Trump told Zelenskyy ....

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trump and the christians were made obvious by the ukrainians and what the true nature of the conflict truly is.
 
often the plea when caught red handed - their back room dealing when brought to the lite of day ...



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trump and the christians were made obvious by the ukrainians and what the true nature of the conflict truly is.
You are still talking gibberish. Sorry.
 
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