What human cost is acceptable in controling illegal immigration?

[francoHFW]

Poor Americans like that are the result of the last 35 years of GOP dominance and obstruction. So end it and stop dicking around stupid un American walls and screwing random Hispanics...

Poor Americans are also the result of Democrat open border policies (amnesty, sanctuary, birthright citizenship, welfare for illegals, etc) and thus, resulting illegal immigration taking jobs away from Americans. It also results from businesses being deprived of sales due to immigration remittances$$$$.

Amnesty was Reagan but Republicans refused to follow up with a good ID card or or something ! Fix it and stop parroting BS nonexistent and irrelevant GOP crises and Scandals, super duper.

 

[francoHFW]

Poor Americans like that are the result of the last 35 years of GOP dominance and obstruction. So end it and stop dicking around stupid un American walls and screwing random Hispanics...

Poor Americans are also the result of Democrat open border policies (amnesty, sanctuary, birthright citizenship, welfare for illegals, etc) and thus, resulting illegal immigration taking jobs away from Americans. It also results from businesses being deprived of sales due to immigration remittances$$$$.

Amnesty was Reagan but Republicans refused to follow up with a good ID card or or something ! Fix it and stop parroting BS nonexistent and irrelevant GOP crises and Scandals, super duper.

Nobody is for open borders for for immigrants, you ridiculous chump.

 

[protectionist]

None of this stuff would be an issue if the Latin American Socialists were not destroying their own countries and driving their populations into flight.

And nowhere is that more clearly the case than in the train wreck to our south known as Mexico.

If they broke up the monopolies, and allowed Mexican small businessmen to compete, thereby opening thousands of companies and hiring millions of people, poor Mexicans would be happy in Mexico, instead of migrating north.

Also, needed is to deprive Mexico of the tons of Billions$$/year they get from USA remittances$$ and us paying their poverty bill - thankfully, we finally have a POTUS who is working on that.

 

[francoHFW]

If American farmers paid workers twice what they make now, they would lose a large percent of the 135 billion dollars in food product exports. Even if American workers would work the fields for twice the pay, farmers couldn't pay it.

Then they shouldn't be farmers..

They can do what all the rest of us who can't afford to own a business ,do. Go out and GET A JOB​

Or we could do the intelligent thing and have seasonal workers as we do and follow up on them and and of course give them a f******ID card to do it

 

[protectionist]

A hard and fast policy of Ripping kids from their parents is

Which is why illegal aliens shouldn't be doing that, and the lowlife country that send them here.

 

[francoHFW]

None of this stuff would be an issue if the Latin American Socialists were not destroying their own countries and driving their populations into flight.

And nowhere is that more clearly the case than in the train wreck to our south known as Mexico.

If they broke up the monopolies, and allowed Mexican small businessmen to compete, thereby opening thousands of companies and hiring millions of people, poor Mexicans would be happy in Mexico, instead of migrating north.

Also, needed is to deprive Mexico of the tons of Billions$$/year they get from USA remittances$$ and us paying their poverty bill - thankfully, we finally have a POTUS who is working on that.

Mexico is ruined by drug gangs and resultant corruption, stupid dupe, caused by us. Caused by us, hater dupe.

 

[protectionist]

Or we could do the intelligent thing and have seasonal workers as we do and follow up on them and and of course give them a f******ID card to do it

IF we NEED seasonal workers.

 

[francoHFW]

Or we could do the intelligent thing and have seasonal workers as we do and follow up on them and and of course give them a f******ID card to do it

IF we NEED seasonal workers.

We do, to keep cost of produce down... Or by all means whatever. But do it intelligently and a goddamn facking ID card like most other modern countries have. But of course that would be communist right, GOP dupe?

 

[protectionist]

Mexico is ruined by drug gangs and resultant corruption, stupid dupe, caused by us. Caused by us, hater dupe.

You just got told (in Post # 1923) what is, and has been, ruining Mexico, and none of it is caused by us, STUPID DUPE.

 

[Flopper]

No illegal aliens-children or otherwise-should be allowed to stay. Zero tolerance. End of story.

How about the unnecessary separation of children from their parents?

It's a deterrent, as in, don't want to be separated from your children, then don't bring them here illegally. Once the word gets around, they'll cut it out. maybe.

Now that would be pretty dumb, applying for asylum out of fear for the lives of the family members and then leave the kids there.

 

[Slyhunter]

No illegal aliens-children or otherwise-should be allowed to stay. Zero tolerance. End of story.

How about the unnecessary separation of children from their parents?

It's a deterrent, as in, don't want to be separated from your children, then don't bring them here illegally. Once the word gets around, they'll cut it out. maybe.

Now that would be pretty dumb, applying for asylum out of fear for the lives of the family members and then leave the kids there.

Instead of fleeing they should fight for their country and have a revolution.

 

[MaryL]

When you think about illegal aliens, you probably are thinking a poor little group of famished Mexicans hiding in the shadows, barley eking out a living fearing a knock on their door. Well, think again. No, instead they are emboldened to strut around like they can't do any wrong. Because they get SANCTUARY. I live in a sanctuary city/state. And yet I see homeless Americans living tents begging for money. Most of these people lost their jobs and homes because entire industries switched to illegal aliens, it happens, it's a non negotiable fact. Poor Americans want a better life too, and they deserve a little more recognition and respect than being treated like disposable trash. Why don't we give poor Americans sanctuary instead?

I have seen Mexicans (unable to speak English) showing up at the welfare office, driving shiny, new cars.

There are so many layers to this. Anecdotal evidence, then there's all those pols and statistics and analysis by so called experts. Let me boil down my 25 year plus experience with Illegal aliens. It comes down to: Illegal aliens just aren't worth selling out America. It cheapens and devalues basic human standards. It's not about humanitarianism, the fact they dispossess Americans and create poverty HERE makes a lie of that statement. We ALL want a better life, after all.

 

[protectionist]

We do, to keep cost of produce down... Or by all means whatever. But do it intelligently and a goddamn facking ID card like most other modern countries have. But of course that would be communist right, GOP dupe?

Cost of produce (or any product) remains the same regardless of wages. Companies cannot raise prices above their market price - to do so, causes catastrophic SALES REDUCTIONS.

What do you think made the price of any given product in the first place, leftist dupe ? Somebody's lucky number ?

You don't run your economic system by depriving your citizens of jobs. We still have 3.8% unemployment, so some Americans are still without jobs, and anybody can pick fruit - don't need engineers and scientists to do that.

 

[imawhosure]

You are screwed, that is all you need know-)

 

[francoHFW]

A hard and fast policy of Ripping kids from their parents is

Which is why illegal aliens shouldn't be doing that, and the lowlife country that send them here.

The problem is it's happening with those trying for Asylum... Ordinary illegals caught that could happen, but that would be for a few days before being sent back right? Actually they could keep them together since they're all illegal. Why do you GOPers have to be cruel just for the hell of it. Of course racism no longer exists, right? LOL!

 

[francoHFW]

Mexico is ruined by drug gangs and resultant corruption, stupid dupe, caused by us. Caused by us, hater dupe.

You just got told (in Post # 1923) what is, and has been, ruining Mexico, and none of it is caused by us, STUPID DUPE.

So there is no drug gang problem in Mexico? No resultant corruption? You are out of your mind.

 

[francoHFW]

You are screwed, that is all you need know-)

Pass the goddamn ID card with computer chip. And enforce it. End it. Democrats have been trying to get that forever. Your brainwashing Heroes block actual Solutions, super duper s.

 

[imawhosure]

You are screwed, that is all you need know-)

Pass the goddamn ID card with computer chip. And enforce it. End it. Democrats have been trying to get that forever. Your brainwashing Heroes block actual Solutions, super duper s.

Hey super DUPEr, how the hell you doing?

Good to see you are here, even as your whole damn Leftist agenda collapses.

What a deal, isn't it! And you thought you had it, lololololol!

 

[Natural Citizen]

That isn’t calling for open borders. Talk about distortion.

There's a case to be made for open borders. But this demands a free society. We don't have a free society. But if we did, there's a case to be made for it.

Anyway. Are you like a warrior chick now? Raaaaaaaar....

 

[Flopper]

No illegal aliens-children or otherwise-should be allowed to stay. Zero tolerance. End of story.

How about the unnecessary separation of children from their parents?

It's a deterrent, as in, don't want to be separated from your children, then don't bring them here illegally. Once the word gets around, they'll cut it out. maybe.

Now that would be pretty dumb, applying for asylum out of fear for the lives of the family members and then leave the kids there.

Instead of fleeing they should fight for their country and have a revolution.

They did. They had 5 of them.