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Ah, the grand symphony of misplaced arguments continues. While I commend your persistence in advocating for sensible reforms, let's address the dissonance in your reasoning.
Indeed, mass deportations of millions are not only logistically impossible but also lack humanity. However, your concession is duly noted, and I share your concern for border security and the need to address illegal immigration. It's high time we focus on comprehensive immigration reform, including securing our borders, improving legal pathways, and addressing the root causes of migration.
But let's not forget the bigger picture. Closed borders alone won't magically solve all our challenges. We must also invest in education, training, and infrastructure to create opportunities for all Americans. This includes ensuring that workers, including low-skilled ones, are paid a living wage that allows them to thrive.
And while we're at it, let's acknowledge the role of historical and ongoing political interventions that have contributed to the complex issues we face today. A holistic approach involves lifting sanctions, promoting stability, and fostering cooperation in the regions from which many migrants originate.
Let Bukele do his job and stop threatening him. He's cleaning up El Salvador and making it livable.
Ah, the grand symphony of misplaced arguments continues. While I commend your persistence in advocating for sensible reforms, let's address the dissonance in your reasoning.
Indeed, mass deportations of millions are not only logistically impossible but also lack humanity. However, your concession is duly noted, and I share your concern for border security and the need to address illegal immigration. It's high time we focus on comprehensive immigration reform, including securing our borders, improving legal pathways, and addressing the root causes of migration.
But let's not forget the bigger picture. Closed borders alone won't magically solve all our challenges. We must also invest in education, training, and infrastructure to create opportunities for all Americans. This includes ensuring that workers, including low-skilled ones, are paid a living wage that allows them to thrive.
And while we're at it, let's acknowledge the role of historical and ongoing political interventions that have contributed to the complex issues we face today. A holistic approach involves lifting sanctions, promoting stability, and fostering cooperation in the regions from which many migrants originate.
Let Bukele do his job and stop threatening him. He's cleaning up El Salvador and making it livable.
Firstly, we must acknowledge the importance of non-interference in the political affairs of Latin American countries. By refraining from past interventionist practices, we can create a conducive environment for these countries to govern themselves and focus on their own development. This would significantly reduce illegal immigration from these countries into the US.Indeed, mass deportations of millions are not only logistically impossible but also lack humanity.
We won't know until we try.
However, your concession is duly noted, and I share your concern for border security and the need to address illegal immigration.
I duly concede that we need to seal the border and deport 30 million illegals.
Closed borders alone won't magically solve all our challenges.
But it will certainly be a step in the right direction.
Firstly, we must acknowledge the importance of non-interference in the political affairs of Latin American countries. By refraining from past interventionist practices, we can create a conducive environment for these countries to govern themselves and focus on their own development. This would significantly reduce illegal immigration from these countries into the US.
Additionally, it is crucial to foster collaboration between the United States and the Mexican government to tackle the menace of cartels. Highly targeted US military operations against cartels within Mexico may be necessary. Special forces, drone strikes, and the involvement of our armed forces can be deployed strategically to eliminate the cartels.
Simultaneously, we must address the underlying issues that drive illegal migration into the US from Latin America, particularly Central America, which is where most illegals come from. By investing in aid and resources, we can support the development of infrastructure and economic opportunities in Central American and Mexican communities. This approach would encourage illegal immigrants to leave the US and return to their respective countries.
We should support Central American countries like El Salvador in their effort to purge their homeland of homicidal gangs/street terrorists and make their countries safer. Bukele currently has a 94% approval rating by his people. Some American politicians and NGOs are threatening Bukele, to stop him from "violating" the "human rights" of homicidal street terrorists, that held El Salvador, hostage, for decades.
In the spirit of finding humane solutions, we could explore the possibility of voluntary repatriation programs that provide incentives for individuals to return to their home countries. By offering financial support, resources, and assistance in resettlement, we can facilitate a smooth transition for those who wish to go back and rebuild their lives in their own countries.
And yes, we can also do the strong-arm deportations that you yearn for, along with all of the above. We can essentially tell these illegal immigrants, that if they get caught and detained by our immigration enforcement they will be deported without the resettlement assistance. There will be no repatriation/re-location help, they will just get deported.
They need to turn themselves in and go through the process of resettling in their countries within the repatriation program. If they don't turn themselves in and are caught by law enforcement, they just get deported. That's the smart way to deport 30 MILLION PEOPLE.
The above has nothing to do with Walmart being stingy with their full-time employees and essentially having their labor force subsidized by the US government. Right-wingers need to get out of the way and allow the US government to not just give you rich folks your monthly "employee food stamps and cash assistance bailout", but to ensure all Americans are housed with at least basic housing, and have access to an education, e.g. college or vocational job training.
If you believe you have the right to pay employees whatever you want, despite not being enough for these people to live, then due to the market's failure to provide them with a living wage, the government has to get involved, not just with food stamps and cash assistance. Capitalism doesn't work without at least a little bit of socialism.
Illegals aren't being hired in Walmart, they work the jobs most Americans, especially our new generation with their manicured nails and silky baby smooth hands, don't want to work. It's the labor-intensive, "ugly jobs" that these Latin American illegals are working, not cashier and retail inventory jobs in major brand stores.
You shout "Soviet Union!", "Stalin!", when I suggest the US government should have a full-employment policy for all Americans, providing people with a job in the public sector, when they can't find one in the private sector. You don't shout that when Uncle Sam is subsidizing your full-time workforce, because you refuse to pay them enough to live. In order to attract people to work for you as cashiers for ten hours:
I'm more than willing to pay a few cents more for that box of macaroni as shown in the above video, to make sure the cashier can get paid a living wage. I would even pay an extra buck or two for some items, to make sure Walmart employees are earning a living wage (enough to live on without government welfare).
You need her full-time, so pay her enough to live and not need Uncle Sam to feed and house her. You're making billions of dollars a year, pay her an extra 3 or 4 bucks an hour. That's an extra $700, $1000 monthly. That's her rent, utilities, and food. When pearl-clutching rich folks like you flippantly dismiss the needs of their employees, Uncle Sam must get involved. The US government keeps this from happening to you capitalists:
They make sure the working class (94% of the population), doesn't eat the rich (6% of the population). If Todd's way of doing capitalism leads to social unrest and economic collapses (perpetual boom and bust cycles), requiring socialism to save the day (US government, tax payer funded bailouts), then your form of capitalism is dysfunctional.
Firstly, we must acknowledge the importance of non-interference in the political affairs of Latin American countries. By refraining from past interventionist practices, we can create a conducive environment for these countries to govern themselves and focus on their own development. This would significantly reduce illegal immigration from these countries into the US.
Additionally, it is crucial to foster collaboration between the United States and the Mexican government to tackle the menace of cartels. Highly targeted US military operations against cartels within Mexico may be necessary. Special forces, drone strikes, and the involvement of our armed forces can be deployed strategically to eliminate the cartels.
Simultaneously, we must address the underlying issues that drive illegal migration into the US from Latin America, particularly Central America, which is where most illegals come from. By investing in aid and resources, we can support the development of infrastructure and economic opportunities in Central American and Mexican communities. This approach would encourage illegal immigrants to leave the US and return to their respective countries.
We should support Central American countries like El Salvador in their effort to purge their homeland of homicidal gangs/street terrorists and make their countries safer. Bukele currently has a 94% approval rating by his people. Some American politicians and NGOs are threatening Bukele, to stop him from "violating" the "human rights" of homicidal street terrorists, that held El Salvador, hostage, for decades.
In the spirit of finding humane solutions, we could explore the possibility of voluntary repatriation programs that provide incentives for individuals to return to their home countries. By offering financial support, resources, and assistance in resettlement, we can facilitate a smooth transition for those who wish to go back and rebuild their lives in their own countries.
And yes, we can also do the strong-arm deportations that you yearn for, along with all of the above. We can essentially tell these illegal immigrants, that if they get caught and detained by our immigration enforcement they will be deported without the resettlement assistance. There will be no repatriation/re-location help, they will just get deported.
They need to turn themselves in and go through the process of resettling in their countries within the repatriation program. If they don't turn themselves in and are caught by law enforcement, they just get deported. That's the smart way to deport 30 MILLION PEOPLE.
The above has nothing to do with Walmart being stingy with their full-time employees and essentially having their labor force subsidized by the US government. Right-wingers need to get out of the way and allow the US government to not just give you rich folks your monthly "employee food stamps and cash assistance bailout", but to ensure all Americans are housed with at least basic housing, and have access to an education, e.g. college or vocational job training.
If you believe you have the right to pay employees whatever you want, despite not being enough for these people to live, then due to the market's failure to provide them with a living wage, the government has to get involved, not just with food stamps and cash assistance. Capitalism doesn't work without at least a little bit of socialism.
Illegals aren't being hired in Walmart, they work the jobs most Americans, especially our new generation with their manicured nails and silky baby smooth hands, don't want to work. It's the labor-intensive, "ugly jobs" that these Latin American illegals are working, not cashier and retail inventory jobs in major retail brand stores.
You shout "Soviet Union!", "Stalin!", when I suggest the US government should have a full-employment policy for all Americans, providing people with a job in the public sector, when they can't find one in the private sector. You don't shout that when Uncle Sam is subsidizing your full-time workforce, because you refuse to pay them enough to live. In order to attract people to work for you as cashiers for ten hours daily, you're going to have to pay them enough to live, if the government has a national full-employment policy. That's why you hate it so much. You love having people desperate for work, due to scarcity of jobs, accepting whatever peanuts you throw at them:
I'm more than willing to pay a few cents more for that box of macaroni as shown in the above video, to make sure the cashier can get paid a living wage. I would even pay an extra buck or two for some items, to make sure Walmart employees are earning a living wage (earning enough to live on without government welfare).
You need her full-time, so pay her enough to live and not need Uncle Sam to feed and house her. You're making billions of dollars a year, hence pay her an extra 3 or 4 bucks an hour. That's an extra $700, $1000 monthly. That's her rent, utilities, and food. When pearl-clutching rich folks like you flippantly dismiss the needs of their employees, Uncle Sam must get involved. The US government keeps this from happening to you stingy ass capitalists:
They make sure the working class (94% of the population), doesn't eat the rich (6% of the population). If Todd's way of doing capitalism leads to social unrest and a perpetual series of economic collapses (boom and bust cycles), requiring socialism to save the day (US government, tax payer funded bailouts), then your form of capitalism is dysfunctional:
The purpose of the state is primarily to protect the haves from the have-nots, the owners, and masters from the majority who are owned and have a master over them. The state is always a dictatorship dictating for either the wealthy elites or for the working class. When the state is in the hands of the rich, it's called a plutocracy, an oligarchy, and when it's actually in the hands of the vast majority of people, it's a democracy. It's the rule of the people.
What Happens When You Tax Billionaires At 90%
Thanks for the Walmart video.
Raising prices 1.4% saves taxpayers $300,000,000 a year.
At a cost to customers of about $7 billion dollars.
You end up with a country of few billionaires. After all, what idiot would do the work to make a billion dollars if they have to give it all to the State, and with everyone giving everything to the jackasses in Washington, there'd be too little left to develop, invest in, create and update big business and corporations, so most of them would fail as well or never get off the ground leaving a ruling class and a poverty class just as in every country such an idiotic communist notion has ever been tried.
the price of labor should be set by supply and demand, not government dictate. What is your objection to letting the economic laws of supply and demand operate freely? Why do you favor socialist principles where freedom does not exist?Ah, the sweet, dulcet tones of intellectual discourse, and then the strident, off-key clang of “move to North Korea.” The classic and rather tired rejoinder, trundled out whenever one dares to suggest that rampant, unchecked capitalism might need a pinch of humanity and responsibility.
When corporations recognize the vitality of paying employees a living wage, they are investing in the society that allows them to prosper. Yes, I dare say ‘invest’ without a single mention of stock options or market portfolios. They are ensuring that their workforce can live with dignity, and that society doesn't bear the cost through welfare programs. Quite ironically, by the way, this is reducing the sort of ‘socialism’ that critics often rail against. Yes, corporations taking responsibility reduces the need for government intervention.
Henry Ford, hardly a ‘commie’ by any stretch of the imagination, doubled his workers’ wages in 1914. He did so partly to reduce employee turnover, but also because he realized that better-paid employees could afford to buy the cars they were making. Eureka! A capitalist recognizing that his workers are also paying consumers. They are part of the very economy upon which the corporate citadels are built.
horseshit, they will spend their money elsewhere. economics 101The individual customer will gladly pay a few cents more to make sure the employees that are working in that store are earning enough to live on. Not you of course, because you're an asshole. But normal, decent people don't have a problem with that.
Firstly, we must acknowledge the importance of non-interference in the political affairs of Latin American countries. By refraining from past interventionist practices, we can create a conducive environment for these countries to govern themselves and focus on their own development. This would significantly reduce illegal immigration from these countries into the US.
Additionally, it is crucial to foster collaboration between the United States and the Mexican government to tackle the menace of cartels. Highly targeted US military operations against cartels within Mexico may be necessary. Special forces, drone strikes, and the involvement of our armed forces can be deployed strategically to eliminate the cartels.
Simultaneously, we must address the underlying issues that drive illegal migration into the US from Latin America, particularly Central America, which is where most illegals come from. By investing in aid and resources, we can support the development of infrastructure and economic opportunities in Central American and Mexican communities. This approach would encourage illegal immigrants to leave the US and return to their respective countries.
We should support Central American countries like El Salvador in their effort to purge their homeland of homicidal gangs/street terrorists and make their countries safer. Bukele currently has a 94% approval rating by his people. Some American politicians and NGOs are threatening Bukele, to stop him from "violating" the "human rights" of homicidal street terrorists, that held El Salvador, hostage, for decades.
In the spirit of finding humane solutions, we could explore the possibility of voluntary repatriation programs that provide incentives for individuals to return to their home countries. By offering financial support, resources, and assistance in resettlement, we can facilitate a smooth transition for those who wish to go back and rebuild their lives in their own countries.
And yes, we can also do the strong-arm deportations that you yearn for, along with all of the above. We can essentially tell these illegal immigrants, that if they get caught and detained by our immigration enforcement they will be deported without the resettlement assistance. There will be no repatriation/re-location help, they will just get deported.
They need to turn themselves in and go through the process of resettling in their countries within the repatriation program. If they don't turn themselves in and are caught by law enforcement, they just get deported. That's the smart way to deport 30 MILLION PEOPLE.
The above has nothing to do with Walmart being stingy with their full-time employees and essentially having their labor force subsidized by the US government. Right-wingers need to get out of the way and allow the US government to not just give you rich folks your monthly "employee food stamps and cash assistance bailout", but to ensure all Americans are housed with at least basic housing, and have access to an education, e.g. college or vocational job training.
If you believe you have the right to pay employees whatever you want, despite not being enough for these people to live, then due to the market's failure to provide them with a living wage, the government has to get involved, not just with food stamps and cash assistance. Capitalism doesn't work without at least a little bit of socialism.
Illegals aren't being hired in Walmart, they work the jobs most Americans, especially our new generation with their manicured nails and silky baby smooth hands, don't want to work. It's the labor-intensive, "ugly jobs" that these Latin American illegals are working, not cashier and retail inventory jobs in major retail brand stores.
You shout "Soviet Union!", "Stalin!", when I suggest the US government should have a full-employment policy for all Americans, providing people with a job in the public sector, when they can't find one in the private sector. You don't shout that when Uncle Sam is subsidizing your full-time workforce, because you refuse to pay them enough to live. In order to attract people to work for you as cashiers for ten hours daily, you're going to have to pay them enough to live, if the government has a national full-employment policy. That's why you hate it so much. You love having people desperate for work, due to scarcity of jobs, accepting whatever peanuts you throw at them:
I'm more than willing to pay a few cents more for that box of macaroni as shown in the above video, to make sure the cashier can get paid a living wage. I would even pay an extra buck or two for some items, to make sure Walmart employees are earning a living wage (earning enough to live on without government welfare). Hell, I'm even willing to give Walmart some tax incentives, to cut their taxes.
You need her full-time, so pay her enough to live on and not need Uncle Sam to feed and house her. You're making billions of dollars a year, hence pay her an extra 3 or 4 bucks an hour. That's an extra $700, $1000 monthly. That's her rent, utilities, and food. When pearl-clutching rich folks like you flippantly dismiss the needs of their employees, Uncle Sam must get involved. The US government keeps this from happening to you stingy ass capitalists:
They make sure the working class (94% of the population), doesn't eat the rich (6% of the population). If Todd's way of doing capitalism leads to social unrest and a perpetual series of economic collapses (boom and bust cycles), requiring socialism to save the day (US government, tax payer funded bailouts), then your form of capitalism is dysfunctional. It doesn't work:
The purpose of the state is primarily to protect the haves from the have-nots, the owners, and masters from the majority who are owned and have a master over them (if you're an employeeeeeee/exploiteeeee, you're owned).
The state is always a dictatorship dictating for either the wealthy elites or for the working class. When the state is in the hands of the rich, it's called a plutocracy, an oligarchy, and when it's actually in the hands of the vast majority of people, it's a democracy. It's the rule of the people. There will never be a perfect society and government, so at least we can mitigate the chaps or entropy, with a little bit of socialism. Without it capitalism collapses, because of the unsustainable level of inequality, poverty, homelessness, crime..etc. You end up with nothing. We need to strike a workable balance, between Ayn Rand (laissez-faire) and Stalin (USSR). Not one or the other.
You're holding people hostage to the blind dictates of supply and demand. People aren't mere commodities, they're human beings and if they can't eat and house themselves they starve or are homeless. If you can't pay your full-time employees a living wage, you don't deserve a business with employees. Go back into the workforce, where you belong. Go get yourself a job.the price of labor should be set by supply and demand, not government dictate. What is your objection to letting the economic laws of supply and demand operate freely? Why do you favor socialist principles where freedom does not exist?
Find, spend it elsewhere, but nonetheless, all full-time employees must make enough to not depend on government welfare. If you can't afford to pay your full-time workers a living wage, you shouldn't be in business. Go get a job.horseshit, they will spend their money elsewhere. economics 101
Hehehehe...its amazing that someone so ignorant could achieve adulthood. you are totally brainwashed in the liberal tub of bleach. you are a waste of time to debate because all you can do it repeat lying dem/lib talking points and propaganda. welcome to my ignore list.
You're infantilizing Walmart and yourself. Since when do people have a right to work at Walmart? Is that in the US Constitution? The Bill of Rights? However, society can give all Americans who work full-time the right to a living wage, namely, wages they can live on without needing government welfare. It's you rich folks who are the infantile parasites, depending upon other people's labor to generate an income and insisting that you don't need to pay them a living wage, forcing them to seek government assistance. If you can't pay your workers enough to live on, you shouldn't be in business. Go get a job you bum.
More money in the pockets of employees translates into more money in the pockets of your customers, who will purchase your products. That's more money for you. More business.
So why are you harping about illegals, when we're discussing Walmart paying their full-time employees a living wage?
We're not the Soviet Union, we're the United States, hence you're comparing apples and toaster ovens, baking oatmeal cookies. Our economy is completely different than theirs.
