TruthNotBS
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horseshit, we have child labor laws, hour per week limitations, mandatory overtime pay, anti-discrimination laws. Unions today are nothing but a fund raiser for the far left (using your money which you are forced to pay)
How about negotiating for healthcare benefits since Right Wingers always vote against universal healthcare and practically everything else that serves the interests of the working class? You only serve and protect the interests of the wealthy elites? That's RICH, pun intended. Here is why we unionize today and should always unionize, under this capitalist system:
1. Collective Bargaining
The RICH do it, all of the time, with their Chambers of Commerce, super PACs, industry associations, guilds, armies of lobbyists legally bribing our politicians in the halls of government, "think tanks" (stink tanks), Front Organizations, NGOs, "Christian Business Men's" Dinners and Bible Studies (Ever heard of the "Christian Working Men's Bible Study"? Nope..Because our churches are full of mammon worshiping Right Wingers who hate the poor and working-class. Church leadership loves those big monthly checks/tithes from the rich).
The interests of the capitalist elites and of their workers aren't necessarily the same. Even Adam Smith the father of capitalism admits this fact and also identifies what I just mentioned above about how the rich also collectively bargain with the government and other capitalists, to advance their financial interests, often at the expense of their workers and the public at large. Adam Smith wrote:
EMPHASIS MINE/COMMENTARY
What are the common wages of labor, depends everywhere upon the contract usually made between those two parties, whose interests are by no means the same. The workmen (workmen = employees) desire to get as much, and the masters (capitalists = masters) give as little as possible. The former are disposed to combine (form labor unions) in order to raise, the latter in order to lower the wages of labor. (the capitalist master also forms his own unions, to advance his interests, in order to lower wages, among other expenses at the cost of workers). It is not, however, difficult to foresee which of the two parties must, upon all ordinary occasions, have the advantage in the dispute (Adam Smith admits that the capitalist master has the advantage in the dispute or negotiation), and force the other into a compliance with their terms. The masters, being fewer in number, can combine much more easily (It's easier for the capitalist-masters to unionize or form organizations that advance their interests than it is for the employees); and the law, besides, authorizes, or at least does not prohibit their combinations, while it prohibits those of the workmen (the conditions are more prohibitive for the employees to unionize vs capitalist maasters). (Wealth Of Nations by Adam Smith).
Point:
The financial interests of the master are not necessarily that of his or her employees. Why do you fail to recognize that and pretend that employees shouldn't unionize, when their capitalist bosses are unionizing to advance their financial interests, often at the expense of workers? Every single benefit that workers have today (including several of the ones that you mentioned) is due to workers fighting for it, through their unions. In order to keep those laws on the books. Workers need to unionize, and form their own organizations, just as their capitalist masters do.
EXAMPLE:
For instance, five workers might feel that a certain new safety measure should be implemented in their factory, but those few workers might have limited power to get the company to install that new air filter on their CNC machine.
If the entire workforce is made aware of the need for the new measure, due to the poor air quality in the machine shop, and bands together to pressure the company to install the new air filter, there is a much greater chance that the company will comply. Labor unions band workers together, allowing the voices of individual workers to be heard and possibly made into a goal of the union. Unionized workers typically elect representatives to bring concerns to the union’s attention. Collective Bargaining makes sure changes that can negatively affect workers, are negotiated rather than imposed from the top.For instance, five workers might feel that a certain new safety measure should be implemented in their factory, but those few workers might have limited power to get the company to install that new air filter on their CNC machine.
If the capitalist bosses, disregard the bad air quality in the machine shop, imposing those conditions from the top on their workers, the workers will have the leverage (power) through their collective effort (their labor union), to resolve the issue in favor of the workers, who stand to suffer from the excessive oil and gas in the air, emitted by that CNC machine.
I'm a CNC programmer, I know how those CNC machines emit really nasty toxic gas and oil into the air. I've worked in factories where the owners don't care if the filters haven't been changed in two or three years. They should be changed every three months.
2. Higher Wages
Workers who are members of labor unions in the United States make 18% more than their nonunion counterparts, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics’ annual report on union membership, published today.
Union Members Summary - 2023 A01 Results
www.bls.gov
The report shows the median weekly earnings of full-time and salary workers who were union members in 2022 were $1,216, compared with $1,029 for nonunion workers. That’s nearly $10,000 more per year.
Union workers are also more likely to enjoy consistent pay raises on a regular basis. With a non-union job, the employer can set the new wage rate (including lower rates), without any formal bargaining process or input from the employees.
I don't even have to continue, giving you more reasons why labor unions are in the best interest of workers, and why they have the right to unionize. What I already mentioned above is more than enough. If the RICH MASTERS, can unionize, so can the workers. You have no problem, when the rich and powerful say things like " HEY BUDDY, I'M NOT RUNNING A CHARITY HERE. THIS IS A BUSINESS, AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS FOR ME TO MAKE MONEY, NOT PROVIDE YOU WITH A JOB. I DO WHAT IS IN MY BEST INTEREST, BECAUSE I AM THE CREATOR AND OWNER OF THIS BUSINESS, SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY RULINGS, YOU CAN GO TO HELLLLL"...
You love the tyranny of the workplace. You bend over backward, to defend the masters, at the expense of their employees. Are you sure you're a born-again, spirit-filled Christian? Because you Right-Wing Republicans who claim to be the disciples of Jesus Christ (the salt and light of the Earth), don't think or behave like Jesus and His apostles. You behave more like mammon worshiping devils who despise the poor and the working class. Yes indeed, there are socioeconomic classes in our society and if you deny that, you're delusional. Even Adam Smith admits that throughout his book Wealth Of Nations. Economic classes are real, according to the father of capitalism, that's one of the reasons he identifies capitalists as "masters". You love seeing working-class people under their human, worldly masters don't you? You love that, because you're the champions of "freedom and liberty". Tyranny in the workplace gives you goosebumps, you love it.
Jas 2:1-10 My brethren hold not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. (2) For if there come into your synagogue a man with a gold ring, in fine clothing, and there come in also a poor man in vile clothing; (3) and ye have regard to him that weareth the fine clothing, and say, Sit thou here in a good place; and ye say to the poor man, Stand thou there, or sit under my footstool; (4) do ye not make distinctions among yourselves, and become judges with evil thoughts? (5) Hearken, my beloved brethren; did not God choose them that are poor as to the world to be rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he promised to them that love him? (6) But ye have dishonored the poor man. Do not the rich oppress you, and themselves drag you before the judgment-seats? (7) Do not they blaspheme the honorable name by which ye are called? (8) Howbeit if ye fulfil the royal law, according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well: (9) but if ye have respect of persons, ye commit sin, being convicted by the law as transgressors. (10) For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is become guilty of all.
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