Taxes are for the poor working stiff! The great and powerful companies should pay nothing !!!!
Every dollar of profit a corporation earns will be taxed because eventually every dollar that a corporation earns ends up as income to someone. Why do you want to tax it twice?
No corp. keeps all the profit it makes under a mattress
Because it should be taxed as corporation profit, and as income to the shareholder. Why do you want to give one or the other a free ride? Corporations use massive amounts of infrastructure and government services. Individuals also use infrastructure and services, although most as to a lesser extent. Both owe a share of income to the state to cover their share of the costs for the infrastructure and services they use.
This notion that corporations provide jobs so they shouldn't pay taxes, is ridiculous. I spent the last 15 years of my career doing big time development work, for big box retailers, shopping malls, and corporate clients. Just building a big box store requires hundreds of thousands of dollars of infrastructure changes. Such construction requires roadway widenings to allow high volume access to and from the parking lot, daylighting triangles for more efficient traffic flow, and cost sharing agreements for neighbouring properties.
The infrastructure costs for any business, are enormous. There are good and valid reasons why it takes years from the time a business buys a piece of vacant land and turns it into a store or factory. If the business is one which uses massive amounts of water, there may be issues with the water pipes running to and from the business. Who pays for that? What is required to upgrade it? What will the ongoing costs be? Will there additional traffic problems created by the construction? Will traffic relief, in the form of daylighting triangles, additional turning lanes, or similar changes to the surrounding roadways be needed?
Does the business need a railway spur line? Will lots of large trucks be going into or out of the property. Are turning areas sufficient? All of the corporation's infrastructure requirements are going to have to be met and paid for. If the corporation has negotiated a sweetheart deal with the municipality, the taxpayers may have to eat those costs in order to get the jobs promised. If the jobs provided pay so little that the employees need food stamps, Medicaid and earned income credits, the town really gets no benefit whatsoever, nor does the federal government. City taxes won't recoup all of the infrastructure costs, they just cover city operating expenses for the property.
Yes the store is going to make hundreds of thousands of dollars, and good for them, but they need to pay taxes on that money. The roads around the mall are going to need repairs and replacements more frequently. New stop lights will be needed. All of these things cost big bucks. Repairs to pubic roadways come out of the overall city budget. Normally developers pay big bucks to the city for the roadways, sewer and water lines and hookups, drainage (which may include storm drains, culverts, and grading) for the land, to ensure the flow of water to the storm drains. None of this stuff is cheap.
If you are going to give some corporations tax breaks for providing jobs, how good do the jobs have to be to qualify? If they are putting in a shopping mall, should corporations be getting tax breaks to provide low wage retail jobs? What's the cut-off point for the wages. Corporations are now getting municipalities into bidding wars for their jobs. Who's going to give us the best deal? Cities who participate in these fools games, soon find that they never recover the incentives given, and in a few years, when the benefits expire, the corporation will look for another city to fleece and move on.
In regards to wages, my neighbourhood in Toronto fought and won the battle to keep from having what had been the Toronto Film Studios, turned into a shopping mall, on the grounds that the shopping mall would be replacing high income film production jobs, with low wage retail jobs. When the City of Toronto (which owned the land), closed the Toronto Film Studio, it was because the facility was outdated and was to be replaced. They promised the neighbourhood that the lands would continue to be used for film production and would not be sold, or leased out for low wage McJobs. And then the City proposed leasing the land to a shopping mall company.
Many of my neighbours worked in the movie business, so getting more studio space was more work for them, added to which the roadways surrounding the property weren't built for the level of traffic the mall would receive. The properties across the street from the proposed mall on the north side, which would be one of the access roadways, were residential homes, which would now been choked with traffic and fumes. The entire neighbourhood fought the mall on economic grounds - that the jobs coming in weren't acceptable to the neighbourhood. The economics was the basis for the argument, but the entire residential character of the neighbourhood would have been adversely affected by the traffic. The roadway itself was already high traffic during rush hours, and the traffic to the neighbourhood had increased dramatically with the construction of a mall on property to the south of the proposed mall, and a grocery store on the property next door to it. Since houses in this area sell for upwards of $500,000. this impact of living across the road from the mall would have destroyed their property values.
People matter. Corporations are not people, regardless of what the Citizen's United ruling said. Unless and until the US puts its people first, ALL of its people, not just the rich white ones, you're going to have problems.
Biker/Sailor, I hear you on the tariffs, and a while back I would have even agreed with you, but then I saw a very reasonable argument against protectionist tariffs based around the notion that the global movement of goods and capital has been the catalyst for the first world economic growth which occurred during the last half of the 20th Century. That tariffs would set all of that progress back, and that with the internet and the speed at which capital can now move, the tariffs would no longer work. I now need more information.