Zone1 what happens after death?

[BreezeWood]

I'm not an atheist I just know that ghosts don't exist

- can't be hedging the heavens without including the spiritual ...

 

[Blues Man]

- can't be hedging the heavens without including the spiritual ...

Where does it say ghosts exist in the Bible? And what reputable scientific study ever proved ghosts exist?

And just because I am not an atheist in no way means I must believe in the god of the bible or any god that people have invented.

 

[BreezeWood]

- can't be hedging the heavens without including the spiritual ...

Where does it say ghosts exist in the Bible? And what reputable scientific study ever proved ghosts exist?

And just because I am not an atheist in no way means I must believe in the god of the bible or any god that people have invented.

not everyone refers to the 4th century c-bible - that book should never have been written by those that wrote it - the crucifiers using jesus for their own nefarious purposes.

the proof of physiology's unique spiritual content, would give allowance for ghosts were the spiritual content ever to emerge without its physiological companion. that may be a goal for all living beings or at least humans to come and go as they please.

to spiritually find another planet and regenerate their physiology - and reproduce.

 

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not everyone refers to the 4th century c-bible - that book should never have been written by those that wrote it - the crucifiers using jesus for their own nefarious purposes.

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the proof of physiology's unique spiritual content, would give allowance for ghosts were the spiritual content ever to emerge without its physiological companion. that may be a goal for all living beings or at least humans to come and go as they please.

to spiritually find another planet and regenerate their physiology - and reproduce.

 

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And just because I am not an atheist in no way means I must believe in the god of the bible or any god that people have invented.

So what God do you believe exists?

 

[Red Front]

The average person did not.

You don't seem to realize that the vast majority of people in the Iron Age were illiterate uneducated unsophisticated and superstitious.

Don't confuse what a few extremely educated and intelligent people knew with what everyone else believed. And don't forget these very intelligent people of the Iron Age thought the universe revolved around the Earth.

The average person did not.

How do you know what "the average person" knew back then? Did you personally ask them? Perhaps you'd be surprised what "average" people knew back then.

We don't base whether a certain scientific discovery or knowledge-skill set was known in a certain era upon weather the majority of the people living at that time were aware of it. Even today there are scientific discoveries made by scientists (specialists), while the average Joe (Joe the plumber), doesn't know about it. The "specialists" back then knew the world was spherical. More, the people who would've known this information, would've been of the better educated, upper-classes, namely the royal aristocracy, the religious/shamanic priesthood and scribes. The very same people who you assume were all superstitious idiots, making up bible stories, supposedly believing snakes actually talk and there was an actual Adam and Eve who ate from the wrong fruit tree..etc.

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You don't seem to realize that the vast majority of people in the Iron Age were illiterate uneducated unsophisticated and superstitious.

You willfully, arrogantly refuse to realize the high level of sophistication of the ancients and the fact that the paranormal or/and extraterrestrial at that time was better known. Of course, I expect you to scoff at the notion of the ancients being in contact with spirits or/and ETs, but it's nonetheless true. People like Ramon Watkins a.k.a "Prophet Yahweh" existed back then too:

(The PDF attached to this post was written by Watkins to show people how to replicate what he did)​

That was a sphere of light that flew down from the sky and then went back up into space. In 2005 when this news story was broadcasted there were no civilian drones. Even today in 2024, there are no drones that can perfectly mimic a sphere of light in broad daylight, moving at the speed and agility shown by that flying object (UFO).

A week or so after the event filmed in that news story, the reporter who witnessed the UFO with Watkins in the park, admitted in an interview, on a widely syndicated AM talk show called the "Art Bell Show", that his producer had received a phone call from a government agency, ordering him to stop doing stories on Watkins, hence they stopped communicating with him and the "big event" that was supposed to be televised, with Watkins calling down multiple UFOs, didn't occur.

The ancients were well aware of these "moving stars" (light spheres, WW2 era "foo-fighters") in the sky:

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Don't confuse what a few extremely educated and intelligent people knew with what everyone else believed.

You're making a lot of unnecessary, unsupported assumptions, but as I mentioned, it doesn't matter. Your point is moot.

And don't forget these very intelligent people of the Iron Age thought the universe revolved around the Earth.

Not all of them:

Aristarchus of Samos - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Babylonian Culture | Early World Civilizations

courses.lumenlearning.com

There is scientific data pointing to the Earth being in a special position in the universe, or at least our region of space:

The Axis Of Evil:

(Undebunkable) Cosmic Microwave Background Proves Intelligent Design- but by whom?​

 

[Red Front]

I'm not an atheist I just know that ghosts don't exist

From Ghoulies and Ghosties,
And long-leggity Beasties,
And all Things that go bump in the Night,
Good Lord deliver us.

You've deluded yourself, due to your religious dogmatism that ghosts/spirits don't exist. You're like an atheist-materialist bible thumper, when it comes to your pretentious arrogance. and close mindedness.

 

[Red Front]

Where does it say ghosts exist in the Bible? And what reputable scientific study ever proved ghosts exist?

And just because I am not an atheist in no way means I must believe in the god of the bible or any god that people have invented.

The Torah prohibits speaking with the dead (implying that the dead exist) and we have the example of the witch of Endor, summoning the soul of the prophet Samuel from the underworld or grave/sheol. Much of what is stated in the Hebrew Bible is confirmed by necromancers like Shannon a.k.a. "Mortis The Wizard":

and John Huntington:

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[BreezeWood]

what needs - linking ...

Christianity in the 4th century was dominated in its early stage by Constantine the great and the First Council of Nicaea of 325, which was the beginning of the period of the First seven Ecumenical Councils (325–787), and in its late stage by the Edict of Thessalonica of 380, which made Nicene Christianity the state church of the Roman Empire.

the romans (christians) and jews together in the 1st century crucified jesus and those others that gave their lives for the original religion of antiquity issued by the heavens to a&e for their journey and remission to the everlasting.

- liberation theology, self determination as taught by jesus - they were crucified for.

the physical proof of physiology's unique spiritual content speaks for itself.


- what more could there be ...

 

[Blues Man]

not everyone refers to the 4th century c-bible - that book should never have been written by those that wrote it - the crucifiers using jesus for their own nefarious purposes.

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the proof of physiology's unique spiritual content, would give allowance for ghosts were the spiritual content ever to emerge without its physiological companion. that may be a goal for all living beings or at least humans to come and go as they please.

to spiritually find another planet and regenerate their physiology - and reproduce.

Yeah OK

 

[Blues Man]

You've deluded yourself, due to your religious dogmatism that ghosts/spirits don't exist. You're like an atheist-materialist bible thumper, when it comes to your pretentious arrogance. and close mindedness.

I have no religious dogma because I have no religion.

And it's not arrogance not to believe something that there is absolutely no reliable proof of.

Tell me did you think Ghostbusters was a documentary?

 

[Blues Man]

So what God do you believe exists?

You don't care so why the fuck should I tell you anything ?

Maybe you want to take more things I say out of context because you're a dishonest fuck.

 

[SootedUpCyndi]

Where Does the Soul Go After We Die?

My husband and I disagree about where our souls go after we die. I believe that you are judged right away and that if you are found worthy your soul will go to Heaven immediately. My husband believ…

www.catholiceducation.org

This site sounds pretty Catholic so far, meaning it is not Francis-esque (alleged-pope reference)

I actually did die on the floor? and the local boys shook me- to wake up- I didn't see Gawd or Satan... i saw Geri Garcia... i'm not even a fan? splain that one? funny stuff?

 

[BreezeWood]

I actually did die on the floor? and the local boys shook me- to wake up- I didn't see Gawd or Satan... i saw Geri Garcia... i'm not even a fan? splain that one? funny stuff?

passing out due to intoxication is not usually considered dying - are you sure shaking is all the local boys - did to you.

 

[SootedUpCyndi]

the local boys shook me and brought me back-no I came back- wise arss - i floated down a long hallway towards the light- along the hallway was rooms- and the trick was- pass the evil on bye... you will see..

 

[Natural Citizen]

i floated down a long hallway towards the light- along the hallway was rooms- and the trick was- pass the evil on bye...

Sounds uhscary...

 

[Red Front]

I have no religious dogma because I have no religion.

And it's not arrogance not to believe something that there is absolutely no reliable proof of.

Tell me did you think Ghostbusters was a documentary?

I have no religious dogma because I have no religion.

That's what you say, but not how you think and behave. You're thinking and behaving like a religious fundamentalist, dogmatically attached to your cherished assertions about atheistic anti-paranormal materialism.

And it's not arrogance not to believe something that there is absolutely no reliable proof of.

The video evidence was shown to you for the paranormal with the proposal to provide you free of charge, detailed instructions on how to replicate the phenomena and confirm it for yourself. Your response is a flippant, arrogant dismissal of the material provided to you and complete indifference.

Tell me did you think Ghostbusters was a documentary?

Ghostbusters has nothing to do with the material I showed you. You can actually experience everything I showed you in those videos. The reason you're behaving this way is because you're afraid to confirm it for yourself and then be forced to recognize that the paranormal is real. Your materialist religion would have to include the paranormal, a prospect that you ardently want to avoid.

 

[Red Front]

You don't care so why the fuck should I tell you anything ?

Maybe you want to take more things I say out of context because you're a dishonest fuck.

This is a zone 1 thread, so clean up your act or I'm going to report you to staff.

 

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what needs - linking ...



the romans (christians) and jews together in the 1st century crucified jesus and those others that gave their lives for the original religion of antiquity issued by the heavens to a&e for their journey and remission to the everlasting.

- liberation theology, self determination as taught by jesus - they were crucified for.


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the physical proof of physiology's unique spiritual content speaks for itself.


- what more could there be ...

Everything.

 

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You don't care so why the fuck should I tell you anything ?

Maybe you want to take more things I say out of context because you're a dishonest fuck.

I care because I don't believe it is true.