What happened to the “Master Debaters?”

[rdean]

Remember when the Republican Party was called the “Party of Ideas”? When they won many of the debates with facts and figures? When the majority of scientists were Republican?

What happened?

A typical debate with a Republican on this board:

R: We invaded Iraq, got rid of a bad guy and now the people are free.

Me: Christians have been pretty much wiped out and nearly all, if not all their churches burned.

R: You have to break a few eggs. At least they can practice their religion the way they want.

Me: I disagree. Islam is now the “national religion” by constitution and all legislation is based on Islam.

R: Well, at least women make up 1/3 of the government.

Me: Yea, because we insisted. How much power does 1/3 have, anyway? Besides, if a woman doesn’t run in that district, then it goes to a man. Women can’t even go outside now because they fall under Islamic law and must be escorted everywhere by a male. Some might even call that “protective custody”.

R: Look, you can’t tell people what kind of government they need to have. They need to be free to live their own lives.

Me: Then why did we go in and smash their government? They were already under sanctions. They had no manufacturing and no industry. Everything they had, they bought from the outside, from people willing to share with us because of 9/11, or from our friends, or even us.

R: Screw you sh*teater. *sswipe. I can’t explain anything to you because you are stupid you dumb*ss.

And that is pretty much how a discussion on this board goes.

Many times, it’s even worse. They just go right to the name calling and don't bother with the debate.

What happened to the Republican Party? The Party of ideas, facts and figures?

 

[WillowTree]

***yawn****



attack a conservative.. what else is new. I think by now we know that demoncwats hate white republican people and black republican people too. whydonchyagiveitarest?

 

[saveliberty]

"What happened to the Republican Party? The Party of ideas, facts and figures?" - rdean

The liberals changed the definintion of facts and ignored the rest.

 

[AllieBaba]

We didn't tell the Iraqis what sort of gov't to set up. We assisted them in establishing the government of their own choosing, and we trained their military and their police, while dying to protect them from foreigners who wanted to kill them.

 

[Sunni Man]

What happened to the Republican Party? The Party of ideas, facts and figures?

The Republicans saw that the Democrats had gone a long way by just using slander and inuendo

So they just started imitating the Democrats.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Remember when the Republican Party was called the “Party of Ideas”? When they won many of the debates with facts and figures? When the majority of scientists were Republican?

What happened?

A typical debate with a Republican on this board:

R: We invaded Iraq, got rid of a bad guy and now the people are free.

Me: Christians have been pretty much wiped out and nearly all, if not all their churches burned.

R: You have to break a few eggs. At least they can practice their religion the way they want.

Me: I disagree. Islam is now the “national religion” by constitution and all legislation is based on Islam.

R: Well, at least women make up 1/3 of the government.

Me: Yea, because we insisted. How much power does 1/3 have, anyway? Besides, if a woman doesn’t run in that district, then it goes to a man. Women can’t even go outside now because they fall under Islamic law and must be escorted everywhere by a male. Some might even call that “protective custody”.

R: Look, you can’t tell people what kind of government they need to have. They need to be free to live their own lives.

Me: Then why did we go in and smash their government? They were already under sanctions. They had no manufacturing and no industry. Everything they had, they bought from the outside, from people willing to share with us because of 9/11, or from our friends, or even us.

R: Screw you sh*teater. *sswipe. I can’t explain anything to you because you are stupid you dumb*ss.

And that is pretty much how a discussion on this board goes.

Many times, it’s even worse. They just go right to the name calling and don't bother with the debate.

What happened to the Republican Party? The Party of ideas, facts and figures?

Debating yourself, and you still can't win. Imagine that.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Remember when Librul were saying "The War is Losttttttt!" and "Iran runs Iraq"

The only way Libruls ever win is when Republicans throw the election.

 

[Bfgrn]

What happened to the “Master Debaters?”

Now they're just Masterbaters...

 

[nodoginnafight]

I'll agree to the extent that I think the current crop of folks who are providing the intellectual foundation for the right fall so far short of the William F. Buckleys and George Wills - what do they have instead? Sarah Palin, Charles Krauthammer, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh ??????

And where the right used to boast real statesmen with real vision - they have replaced them with Grassley, Shelby, Bachman, Bohner ......

I morn the loss of the rational right and hope - for the sake of my nation - for a better crop SOON. Unfortunately, I just don't see anyone on the horizon capable of toting a briefcase for the giants who went before.

 

[Harry Dresden]

What happened to the “Master Debaters?”

Now they're just Masterbaters...

im sure you spend lots of time doing just that....switch hands once in a while....its like you got a new girlfriend.....

 

[Oddball]

What happened to the “Master Debaters?”

Now they're just Masterbaters...

Wow, Jethro....Didja use up every bit of your sixth grade edumacation to think that one up?

 

[RodISHI]

Redean is not a debater. He is more like a shit slinger.

 

[rdean]

We didn't tell the Iraqis what sort of gov't to set up. We assisted them in establishing the government of their own choosing, and we trained their military and their police, while dying to protect them from foreigners who wanted to kill them.

They already had the government of their own choosing.

WE are the foreigners who went in and killed them.

Now, they are basiclly Iran. A clergy backed government whose legislation is based on Islam by Constitution.

If you think a religious theocracy is the definition of "freedom", then you are sadly mistaken.

Anyway, it wasn't about Iraq, but about the current crop of Republicans.

Wow, only one using dirty words. A recent record.

 

[CurveLight]

Remember when the Republican Party was called the “Party of Ideas”? When they won many of the debates with facts and figures? When the majority of scientists were Republican?

What happened?

A typical debate with a Republican on this board:

R: We invaded Iraq, got rid of a bad guy and now the people are free.

Me: Christians have been pretty much wiped out and nearly all, if not all their churches burned.

R: You have to break a few eggs. At least they can practice their religion the way they want.

Me: I disagree. Islam is now the “national religion” by constitution and all legislation is based on Islam.

R: Well, at least women make up 1/3 of the government.

Me: Yea, because we insisted. How much power does 1/3 have, anyway? Besides, if a woman doesn’t run in that district, then it goes to a man. Women can’t even go outside now because they fall under Islamic law and must be escorted everywhere by a male. Some might even call that “protective custody”.

R: Look, you can’t tell people what kind of government they need to have. They need to be free to live their own lives.

Me: Then why did we go in and smash their government? They were already under sanctions. They had no manufacturing and no industry. Everything they had, they bought from the outside, from people willing to share with us because of 9/11, or from our friends, or even us.

R: Screw you sh*teater. *sswipe. I can’t explain anything to you because you are stupid you dumb*ss.

And that is pretty much how a discussion on this board goes.

Many times, it’s even worse. They just go right to the name calling and don't bother with the debate.

What happened to the Republican Party? The Party of ideas, facts and figures?

My Party has been invaded by Neocons and the Christian Right. It really is that simple. Iam a Christian, Republican, and political Conservative, but I refuse to fall in line with the abhorrent, anti-Christ, and flat out evil based policies that have been injected over the past decade. My Party needs an enema.

 

[WillowTree]

I'll agree to the extent that I think the current crop of folks who are providing the intellectual foundation for the right fall so far short of the William F. Buckleys and George Wills - what do they have instead? Sarah Palin, Charles Krauthammer, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh ??????

And where the right used to boast real statesmen with real vision - they have replaced them with Grassley, Shelby, Bachman, Bohner ......

I morn the loss of the rational right and hope - for the sake of my nation - for a better crop SOON. Unfortunately, I just don't see anyone on the horizon capable of toting a briefcase for the giants who went before.

left wing pure and simple

 

[Oddball]

I'll agree to the extent that I think the current crop of folks who are providing the intellectual foundation for the right fall so far short of the William F. Buckleys and George Wills - what do they have instead? Sarah Palin, Charles Krauthammer, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh ??????

And where the right used to boast real statesmen with real vision - they have replaced them with Grassley, Shelby, Bachman, Bohner ......

I morn the loss of the rational right and hope - for the sake of my nation - for a better crop SOON. Unfortunately, I just don't see anyone on the horizon capable of toting a briefcase for the giants who went before.

Uh-huh...And your side has such sterling examples of civility and highbrow communicators as Bill Maher, Randi Rhoads and Keith Olberdouche....Lest we fail to mention that your party has traded the likes of Hubert Humphrey and Daniel Patrick Moynahan for pettifogging demagogues like Nancy Pelosi and Al Frankenstein.

Physician, heal thyself.

 

[Harry Dresden]

They already had the government of their own choosing.

oh really.....so Sadam allowed free and fair elections?.....you know like the one they had where he was the unanimous choice?......no votes for the other 5 guys....dam!... he was good....

 

[Bfgrn]

What happened to the “Master Debaters?”

Now they're just Masterbaters...

im sure you spend lots of time doing just that....switch hands once in a while....its like you got a new girlfriend.....

And you would know ...how?

 

[Harry Dresden]

What happened to the “Master Debaters?”

Now they're just Masterbaters...

im sure you spend lots of time doing just that....switch hands once in a while....its like you got a new girlfriend.....

And you would know ...how?

because i...like EVERY OTHER MALE on the planet.....has fucking done it.......and if any guy anywhere,tells me he never has.....he is a liar of the highest order....

 

[nodoginnafight]

I'll agree to the extent that I think the current crop of folks who are providing the intellectual foundation for the right fall so far short of the William F. Buckleys and George Wills - what do they have instead? Sarah Palin, Charles Krauthammer, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh ??????

And where the right used to boast real statesmen with real vision - they have replaced them with Grassley, Shelby, Bachman, Bohner ......

I morn the loss of the rational right and hope - for the sake of my nation - for a better crop SOON. Unfortunately, I just don't see anyone on the horizon capable of toting a briefcase for the giants who went before.

Uh-huh...And your side has such sterling examples of civility and highbrow communicators as Bill Maher, Randi Rhoads and Keith Olberdouche....Lest we fail to mention that your party has traded the likes of Hubert Humphrey and Daniel Patrick Moynahan for pettifogging demagogues like Nancy Pelosi and Al Frankenstein.

Physician, heal thyself.

My side is the side of the United States of America - if you were familliar with my posts - and not just what you try to make up about my views - you'd find unkind words for Olbermann, Pelosi and Franken. I have no idea who Randi Rhoads is and I know nothing of Maher other than he used to be funny.

I'm no Humphrey fan at all but I do have a great deal of respect for Moynihan.

Obama was the first Democrat I've ever voted for for president although I've voted for some wierdos and a libertarian or two as a protest vote because even though I was a registered Republican I couldn't go for W or his daddy.

So maybe you should try to learn what "my side" really is before you make inane and uninformed comments on what you assume it to be.
(I'm not a doctor - I just play one on TV)