Tom Sweetnam
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You need an ID to go cash your welfare check at the liquor store...don't you? Delta? Moonglow? Dot Com? rdean? You guys need an ID to go cash your welfare checks at the liquor store, right?
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If you don't have a license, then you can get a non-driving ID from the DMV. It's not an extra hoop people with driver's licenses don't have to go through. It's an alternative to getting a driver's license. I don't think people are typically talking about a separate ID just for showing at a voting location. There's no reason your normal ID (your driver's license or non-driver's ID) can't function as one.my motherinlaw, would not have a govt photo id to vote.... for 55 years of her voting life she did not drive, so only the last 11 did she have a driver's license.
People who choose not to drive, should not be made to go through a hoop that was not put before other voters.....
People who drive already, already have this gvt issued photo id and don't have to take any extra measures in order to vote while those who don't drive are put through a measure of having to miss work, take a cab or bus to a gvt agency, buy and pay for a birth certificate that they may not have, all in order to be able to vote....
that does not seem like equal treatment, under the law...?
the only reason to resist making it harder to cheat is if you need to cheating to win........
Many people lack an IDYou need an ID to go cash your welfare check at the liquor store...don't you? Delta? Moonglow? Dot Com? rdean? You guys need an ID to go cash your welfare checks at the liquor store, right?
I understand that the real goal is twofold - to further the "non-Democrats are racist" narrative and to protect the suffrage of the solidly Democratic-voting illegal immigrant bloc. I'm still curious what their case is in their own words - how they actually justify it legally and rhetorically. I can't really seem to find much more than vague assertions and talking points though. Maybe somebody well versed in their platform (preferably at least a Democrat themselves if not connected to the issue in some active way) could explain it?
OK...I'll try
Surveys have shown large percentages of blacks do not have appropriate ID or documentation that would support obtaining ID. There is nothing indicating they are not legal voters
Blocking those voters from the polls will result In a 2-3% shift intend polls. Enough to influence many elections
An estimated 81,983 voters in South Carolina do not possess a government-issued photo ID, mainly because of missing or inaccurate personal documents. These are mostly elderly, black longtime residents.
I'll make an offer. Provide documentation to 99% of the voters and then you can require it
Better yet, allow those now registered to vote to continue voting absent an ID; if there's evidence of 'fraud' with a given voter, then elections officials can pursue an investigation with regard to that particular voter.Many people lack an IDYou need an ID to go cash your welfare check at the liquor store...don't you? Delta? Moonglow? Dot Com? rdean? You guys need an ID to go cash your welfare checks at the liquor store, right?
Get them one and then you can require it for voting
The evidence grows that ignorance, hate, and stupidity are prerequisites for being a conservative.You need an ID to go cash your welfare check at the liquor store...don't you? Delta? Moonglow? Dot Com? rdean? You guys need an ID to go cash your welfare checks at the liquor store, right?
It is obvious that grandfathering should be allowedBetter yet, allow those now registered to vote to continue voting absent an ID; if there's evidence of 'fraud' with a given voter, then elections officials can pursue an investigation with regard to that particular voter.Many people lack an IDYou need an ID to go cash your welfare check at the liquor store...don't you? Delta? Moonglow? Dot Com? rdean? You guys need an ID to go cash your welfare checks at the liquor store, right?
Get them one and then you can require it for voting
You have obviously not studied the Chicago Democratic Party machine, in either its historical nor present configuration.Voter ID is the least of it. Reducing the number of voting places, reducing hours, making it harder to vote period and then boasting that the GOP will win elections with these disgusting, anti American and rotten tactics and those comments coming from the GOP leadership. Things you come to expect from the GOP. Right?
"What exactly is the Democrats' reasoning when they oppose requiring voter ID as racism?"
For many African-Americans born before the advent of the civil rights movement, born at home, or in segregated hospitals, and raised in communities subject to segregation, they do not have birth certificates, records, or other such documents now needed to acquire the new types of identification.
Note that these are registered voters, registered and eligible to vote for the last 30 or 40 years, citizens who have voted in every election during that time now being told they can no longer vote because they lack a state issued photo ID.
And sadly there are some on the right who see this as an opportunity to keep these citizens from voting because they are perceived to be democratic voters.
The racism, therefore, manifests by taking advantage of this legacy of segregation.
I understand that the real goal is twofold - to further the "non-Democrats are racist" narrative and to protect the suffrage of the solidly Democratic-voting illegal immigrant bloc. I'm still curious what their case is in their own words - how they actually justify it legally and rhetorically. I can't really seem to find much more than vague assertions and talking points though. Maybe somebody well versed in their platform (preferably at least a Democrat themselves if not connected to the issue in some active way) could explain it?
Then let them use that I'd that they may have used and don't force them to get your Gestapo govt Papers.Blacks don't seem to have any problem providing ID to buy alcohol, cigarettes, sign up for welfare, get a fishing license, board a plane or train, shall I continue?
voter I'd is fine, govt issued PHOTO I'D that 10 - 20 percent of our nation"s Citizens do not have....MANDATED by our govt in order to vote is the problem.....
Of course it's true! I only post the TRUTH, aside from the lies spread about me by the subversive left!
Guess who supported voter ID Nelson Mandela TribLIVE
I understand that the real goal is twofold - to further the "non-Democrats are racist" narrative and to protect the suffrage of the solidly Democratic-voting illegal immigrant bloc. I'm still curious what their case is in their own words - how they actually justify it legally and rhetorically. I can't really seem to find much more than vague assertions and talking points though. Maybe somebody well versed in their platform (preferably at least a Democrat themselves if not connected to the issue in some active way) could explain it?
OK...I'll try
Surveys have shown large percentages of blacks do not have appropriate ID or documentation that would support obtaining ID. There is nothing indicating they are not legal voters
Blocking those voters from the polls will result In a 2-3% shift intend polls. Enough to influence many elections
An estimated 81,983 voters in South Carolina do not possess a government-issued photo ID, mainly because of missing or inaccurate personal documents. These are mostly elderly, black longtime residents.
I'll make an offer. Provide documentation to 99% of the voters and then you can require it
voter I'd is fine, govt issued PHOTO I'D that 10 - 20 percent of our nation"s Citizens do not have....MANDATED by our govt in order to vote is the problem.....
Of course it's true! I only post the TRUTH, aside from the lies spread about me by the subversive left!
Guess who supported voter ID Nelson Mandela TribLIVE
The govt would be choosing who gets to vote out of ordinary citizens, making it EASY PEASY for those citizens s who already drive and or have a govt issued photo I'd and harder for those in our society who live without a car or a govt issued photo I'd
AND AGAIN vetting should take place at the time one is registering to vote and NOT after the govt has already approved them.