What drives someone to be a democrat?

[Mac1958]

So, what is the glue that holds the system in place? I think it is Big Money in politics. Ever notice that both parties take turns criticizing Big Money when they lose a majority, and call for reversing Citizen's United, but when they get their control back it's crickets, and the other party starts whining about Big Money? Neither side wants to get rid of Big Money in politics because that would easily open the door to many other parties. The two parties at their core are two sides of the same coin. Everything else is just political propaganda to get the votes necessary to continue serving Big Money.

Yep, and that's a big part of a broken system.

What is an American politician's top priority? It's not serving his constituency, or the Constitution, or the country. It's getting re-elected. Are that politician's ACTIONS then going to be swayed by their top priority? Of COURSE they are. And who do they have to please the most? Their loud, rabid, ideologically fundamentalist base.

So getting big money out of politics is essential. I would add term limits. If we do not change negative incentives, I don't know how we can expect anything to improve.

But I'm not dreaming. I'm not expecting this to happen. Which is why I'm worried for my kids.

 

[Dorian Mode]

Yep, and that's a big part of a broken system.

What is an American politician's top priority? It's not serving his constituency, or the Constitution, or the country. It's getting re-elected. Are that politician's ACTIONS then going to be swayed by their top priority? Of course they are. And who do they have to please the most? Their loud, rabid, ideologically fundamentalist base.

So getting big money out of politics is essential. I would add term limits. If we do not change negative incentives, I don't know how we can expect anything to improve.

But I'm not dreaming. I'm not expecting this to happen. Which is why I'm worried for my kids.

It took 240 years to build and hone this system, it isn't going anywhere. Trump can try to change DC, but his own party will crucify him, along with generous help from the opposition party. That's why I can't understand the blind allegiance many have to one or the other political parties. They're both part of the problem, not the solution.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Setting aside unwise kids and family traditions, what drives someone to swing democrat?

Brain damage.

 

[M14 Shooter]

What is an American politician's top priority? It's not serving his constituency, or the Constitution, or the country. It's getting re-elected.

That's what happens when you regularly elect people to government, and incumbents have to run to keep their seats.
Pretty much unavoidable.

 

[Mac1958]

That's what happens when you regularly elect people to government, and incumbents have to run to keep their seats.
Pretty much unavoidable.

Not necessarily with short, strict term limits.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Not necessarily with short, strict term limits.

For that, you need a constitutional amendment.
Guessing Congress will not go along with it.

 

[Mac1958]

For that, you need a constitutional amendment.
Guessing Congress will not go along with it.

Yes, I know.

 

[Missourian]

Different people have different experiences, priorities, perceptions and opinions.

Maybe you should get to know a few people who don't think exactly like you do. Have a cheeseburger with them now then.

And then listen.

I met an actual dyed in the wool progressive last week. Spouting off about white privilege and DEI.

I was surprised.

Yes, he was crazy, and wrong, and unable to process reality...but he wasn't maliciously crazy. He actually believed these things. That is was acceptable to be racist and sexist as long as it was the "right kind" of racist and sexist.

We did have a single point of agreement. I really don't care about increasing personal tax on billionaires. But, we both agreed, just like states compete using tax incentives to lure in businesses, countries do the same with 100 millionaires to billionaires. Their thinking is Reagan-esque... Better 10% of the tax revenue than no tax revenue at all.

Increasing personal tax on those with the means to flee those high taxes can easily be killing the goose that lays the golden eggs...as 97% of personal taxes are paid by only the top 40% of earners.

 

[Dorian Mode]

For that, you need a constitutional amendment.
Guessing Congress will not go along with it.

No, congress will not go along with anything that takes away power and money from them. Ever notice how they often bitch about how Big Money and the lobbies rule DC, but no one will ever do anything about it?

 

[j-mac]

What drives someone to be a democrat?​

Narcissism and entitlement

 

[Independent thinker]

Setting aside unwise kids and family traditions, what drives someone to swing democrat?

I ask because if you really listen to what their leaders and sources say, its all tall tales free of objectivity. It can't be traditional democrat speak, because trump objectively represents much of that, and as a result, the democrats have left that reasoning behind.

Is it their squeaky wheels, which are primarily unhappy women who lead by emotions at the cost of rational thought? How about those with mental issues, who represent much of what the left have become?

Is it the democrats marketing racism that makes the party attractive?

Is it the their policies creating an environment for "inmates to run the prison"?

Perhaps their high taxes while their cities are riddled with chaos, crime and welfare?

Perhaps they're simply drawn to contrary thought and behavior?

Not many have swung to being a democrat. It's pretty much always the other way around. Most were just born into it due to generational poverty and the elite rich do everything they can to keep these people there in order to get their votes to keep the elites in power. But, more and more have been escaping the plantation.

 

[Shamrock17]

Setting aside unwise kids and family traditions, what drives someone to swing democrat?

I ask because if you really listen to what their leaders and sources say, its all tall tales free of objectivity. It can't be traditional democrat speak, because trump objectively represents much of that, and as a result, the democrats have left that reasoning behind.

Is it their squeaky wheels, which are primarily unhappy women who lead by emotions at the cost of rational thought? How about those with mental issues, who represent much of what the left have become?

Is it the democrats marketing racism that makes the party attractive?

Is it the their policies creating an environment for "inmates to run the prison"?

Perhaps their high taxes while their cities are riddled with chaos, crime and welfare?

Perhaps they're simply drawn to contrary thought and behavior?

I love the rhetorical questions you've listed above. Well done.

Perhaps it's their delusion and entitlement that nobody can better run the world than them?

 

[Shamrock17]

I think democrats and repubs want basically the same thing, but it's the methodology of how to get there that's the issue.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to help the poor, help the world, and let people live whatever lives they want to. The problem is how the left wants to go about this. Basically, the right wants to teach a man to fish, the left wants to give a man a fish.

Lol, both parties want to do neither, help the poor or show them how to fish. They promise stuff in the way of taxing more or taxing less to gain and keep power. That. is. it.

Who better can manage your money but you? Look at the nations' debt. Convinced that I am right about you being the better manager of your money?

 

[Shamrock17]

An IQ higher than the number your thermostat is set at?

A little compassion?

An education?

Real life experience?

All of those things can encourage support for Democrats.

What a load of crap.

 

[Luckyone]

I love the rhetorical questions you've listed above. Well done.

Perhaps it's their delusion and entitlement that nobody can better run the world than them?

 

[Shamrock17]

I'm of the belief that magaturds rarely leave their trailer communities and touch grass.

You aptly but unknowingly make the O/P's points. Congratulations!

 

[Shamrock17]

Yes, we lost to a nazi.

It's a sad time in the US.

Do you ask at all why the Democratic Party's numbers are at record lows?

27% of registered voters viewed the Democratic Party favorably, marking the lowest favorability rating in NBC’s polling history dating back to 1990
The Democrats 29% favorability rating among U.S. adults, the lowest in CNN’s polling since 1992.

 

[marvin martian]

Setting aside unwise kids and family traditions, what drives someone to swing democrat?

I ask because if you really listen to what their leaders and sources say, its all tall tales free of objectivity. It can't be traditional democrat speak, because trump objectively represents much of that, and as a result, the democrats have left that reasoning behind.

Is it their squeaky wheels, which are primarily unhappy women who lead by emotions at the cost of rational thought? How about those with mental issues, who represent much of what the left have become?

Is it the democrats marketing racism that makes the party attractive?

Is it the their policies creating an environment for "inmates to run the prison"?

Perhaps their high taxes while their cities are riddled with chaos, crime and welfare?

Perhaps they're simply drawn to contrary thought and behavior?

Hatred of everything different from them.

 

[Shamrock17]

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Can't use your own words? Your partisan meme is outdated horseshit.

 

[Independent thinker]

Lol, both parties want to do neither, help the poor or show them how to fish. They promise stuff in the way of taxing more or taxing less to gain and keep power. That. is. it.

Who better can manage your money but you? Look at the nations' debt. Convinced that I am right about you being the better manager of your money?

That's something I have picked up on since Democrat's election losses in November. Bernie Sanders shouted something like, "It should be of no surprise that when Democrats abandon the working class then the working class abandoned them". Translation: Bernie and other democrats feel like that in order to get the working class back, they need to give them more free shit. That's how they look at things.