Originally posted by Hobbit
This is an all-volunteer force. These guys didn't get forced into it. If the guy wanted out or concsciencous objector status, he should've mentioned something when he joined, rather than train as a combat soldier until it looked like he might actually get shot at. These guys suck.
Now, during Vietnam, it was different. Much of the country opposed the war, but many were being forced to fight it, anyway. They had to decide whether to risk life and limb by fighting a war they didn't believe or kiss their country goodbye. In that situation, I don't know who is really 'braver.' However, these people all joined the military of their own free will, then bailed out as soon as they were asked to do what they swore to do. You know, the oath they took when they joined, "To defend the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic." That's what makes them cowards.
As for Bill O'Reilly, he's a lot more reliable than you are, acludem. He presents facts and then sources for those facts. I even go and check out these sources and look for the stories in other sources to make sure I get the whole story, and O'Reilly almost (nobody's perfect) always gets the facts right on the nose. Now, I don't always agree with the opinions he has on those facts, but the facts are nearly always good. Now, do you have any way to actually discredit Mr. O'Reilly's presentations on the facts, or are you just going to make that claim without showing me anything else about it. It's the "New York Times" that lies, acludem. The even claimed O'Reilly lied about his hometown and refused to apoligize when he produced an old deed to their home in his father's name, and the house was right where he said it was, too.