What do you pay for housing?

[Lisa558]

Does she live in Adelphi or Beltsville or Camp Springs or Lanham or Hyattsville or Landover Hills or New Carrollton, etc.?

Those are the lesser expensive areas surrounding Washington, DC.

Your son could afford an apartment. Here’s one in Hyattsville for $1200 a month, and it’s a 1-bedroom at 750 sf.

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[RoshawnMarkwees]

Those are the lesser expensive areas surrounding Washington, DC.

Your son could afford an apartment. Here’s one in Hyattsville for $1200 a month, and it’s a 1-bedroom at 750 sf.

Hilltop Apartments - 5345 85th Ave Hyattsville MD | Zillow

Hilltop Apartments apartment community at 5345 85th Ave Hyattsville MD, offers units from 599 - 1320 sqft, a Pet-friendly, Shared laundry, and Air conditioning available. Explore availability.

www.zillow.com

Landover Hills. No offense but that is ultra ghetto. I didn’t bring a kid into this world so things could be made worse for him.

 

[Moonglow]

I am getting close to buying a home on the river for 50k, tearing it down, and building another house but on stilts.
I have 43 acres for sale for $$280k

 

[WEATHER53]

There is a portion of hard-working men and women who simply cannot afford the high cost of living. But there’s also the problem with the politicians basically feminizing huge portions of young men across the country into thinking that it’s actually normal to live with your parents until your God knows how old. again there are young men and women who are living with their parents, but who don’t want this.

There are major differences in indicators of living between now and say 40 years ago. For example, the average 25-year-old 40 years ago made $75,000 a year adjusted for inflation. That is according to professor Scott Galloway, who is no right winger the guy is a big Trump critic.

Today the average 25-year-old makes about $40,000 a year. So there you go there it is. Country ain’t what it used to be.

Nobody has ever exclaimed how reasonable prices are
It’s an excuse for not improving yourself
My dad bough our house in 1953 for $6,500. He was making 6, 200 per year. They barely scraped by for years.
Bunch of utter softies and unmotivated whiners now.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Nobody has ever exclaimed how reasonable prices are
It’s an excuse for not improving yourself
My dad bough our house in 1953 for $6,500. He was making 6, 200 per year. They barely scraped by for years.
Bunch of utter softies and unmotivated whiners now.

So houses now go for $500k which means everyone should make $500k a year. No problem.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Nobody has ever exclaimed how reasonable prices are
It’s an excuse for not improving yourself
My dad bough our house in 1953 for $6,500. He was making 6, 200 per year. They barely scraped by for years.
Bunch of utter softies and unmotivated whiners now.

The very masculine society that your dad and my grandfather grew up in is frowned upon by Democrats and even Republicans today. They attack the great Democrats of the 20th century as being “racist”. Don’t you see what’s going on here.

Do you know in this thread You’re using bad language towards Trump supporters. Not toward me but I think your attitude toward RoshawnMarkwees is misplaced. And that guy Rowshawn is a big supporter of Israel like you are I believe.

In the era of your father, there was no cancel culture or radical leftism. So that made things better. Now it’s really interesting that your father bought a home for $6000 when his salary was about 6500. Now here’s the thing there is no young man in this country today who is making an average salary, which is about 50,000 or so for the average 25 year-old… who can then buy a house for $60,000. There are effectively no homes that can be found unless you go way out of the way for $60,000. I know some of the posters have brought up those homes, but they are way out-of-the-way, they need massive amounts of work. People cannot drive thousands of miles from their house to their job.

Do you see the monumental difference my friend??? Surely you can. People are making $50,000 a year so they can buy a $300,000 800 square-foot home in New Orleans? No way … the math isn’t there.


The numbers don’t add up. And the argument is not something that you think it is. You’re missing a number of things, including cancel culture, radical left-wing politics in the modern era. The extreme rise in home prices in just the last four years and the stagnation of wages.

 

[Lisa558]

Landover Hills. No offense but that is ultra ghetto. I didn’t bring a kid into this world so things could be made worse for him.

Well maybe he can find a teaching job in a better area.

But your idea that a man in his 30s should still live with his parents so things “won’t be made worse for him” is short-sighted. My parents did not bring me up to live in a dumpy apartment my whole life, but they understood that starting out isn’t always great - but it’s only temporary.

Everyone in my family either lived in a dumpy apartment, shared with roommates, rented a basement room, whatever, in their early to mid 20s. Such is life. But everyone in my family now lives in comfortable, if not outright upscale, homes.

A 32-year-old college graduate should be out of the house. You say the areas near his work are “ghetto”? Well, let him move further away. What about Laurel or Glen Burnie?

 

[Lisa558]

So houses now go for $500k which means everyone should make $500k a year. No problem.

Not everyone is entitled to a buy a house. A married couple can buy a $350k townhouse or condo. Or rent a place. Owning a house comes with all sorts of expenses, and property taxes in blue cities are astronomical.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Nobody has ever exclaimed how reasonable prices are
It’s an excuse for not improving yourself
My dad bough our house in 1953 for $6,500. He was making 6, 200 per year. They barely scraped by for years.
Bunch of utter softies and unmotivated whiners now.

Lisa558

There was a senior citizen woman in the C-SPAN video who talked about how her small studio apartment is $1850 a month in San Francisco. She’s now having to work…. she’s retired but she’s working on the side just to afford the cost-of-living. You’re missing these things in your arguments

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Not everyone is entitled to a buy a house. A married couple can buy a $350k townhouse or condo. Or rent a place. Owning a house comes with all sorts of expenses, and property taxes in blue cities are astronomical.

With all of the prices right now, most folks are better off simply renting. But that’s another problem to your point. We have an astronomical number of young men who are single and hooked on drugs. .. also some women who have the same problem, but it’s much more profound with young men. Again more problems that did not exist 50 years ago. It’s more rare these days to see something known as a young couple married or not then it was even 20 years ago.

Anyways, at least with renting one is free to move wherever they want whenever they want. But obviously there are benefits in owning something.

 

[Lisa558]

Lisa558

There was a senior citizen woman in the C-SPAN video who talked about how her small studio apartment is $1850 a month in San Francisco. She’s now having to work…. she’s retired but she’s working on the side just to afford the cost-of-living. You’re missing these things in your arguments

So a senior citizen should not live in the most expensive city in America! She can either move an hour away to where rents are more affordable, or if she insists on remaining in San Francisco, then that’s her choice - but she’ll have to work on the side.

My first job was in Washington, DC, and I would have loved to live right in the city. But I couldn’t afford it. I moved 45 minutes out, on a bus line to a Metro stop.

People aren’t entitled to live in the middle of expensive cities. I knew three people with jobs in Manhattan, and two lived in Staten Island and another in Jersey.

Way too much entitlement going on.

 

[Lisa558]

With all of the prices right now, most folks are better off simply renting. But that’s another problem to your point. We have an astronomical number of young men who are single and hooked on drugs. .. also some women who have the same problem, but it’s much more profound with young men. Again more problems that did not exist 50 years ago. It’s more rare these days to see something known as a young couple married or not then it was even 20 years ago.

Anyways, at least with renting one is free to move wherever they want whenever they want. But obviously there are benefits in owning something.

Well, drugs are an entirely different issue.

But young adults can rent - and share if they have to.

Me? I love my house, but my next move will be to a nice rental. There are fewer headaches with repairs and upkeep.

 

[The Duke]

Way to go Biden. more than doubled the value of that persons home.

That is awesome.

Now tell me, Herfing Derfer, who does that help?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Now tell me, Herfing Derfer, who does that help?

The people that own homes.

Trump list this as one of his major accomplishments...if it were good then, it should be a good now

• Home prices hit an all-time record high.

 

[Woodznutz]

Biggest problem is overpopulation which puts upward price pressure on everything. Next biggest is runaway credit flooding the market with borrowed money which leads to inflation.

 

[The Duke]

The people that own homes.

Trump list this as one of his major accomplishments...if it were good then, it should be a good now

• Home prices hit an all-time record high.

What if they don't want to sell their home at that ridiculously increased value. What happens then?
What happens to potential home buyers?

 

[john doe 101]

They are all over the place in Indian and Ohio.

Nobody wants to live there.

 

[Winco]

I bought this house in 2008.

In 2008 The RE Taxes were $3,100 a year.
In 2024 The RE Taxes are $4,800 per year.

In 2008 the House payment was $1,600 per month
Today in 2024, the House payment is $1,750 per month

Current House Value is $700,000.
We owe $82,000

 

[john doe 101]

Look for a CRE crash later this year. Lots of CRE has to refinance. Regional banks are gonna go belly up as they hold most CRE debt. This could leak into the housing market. Buyer beware.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

So a senior citizen should not live in the most expensive city in America! She can either move an hour away to where rents are more affordable, or if she insists on remaining in San Francisco, then that’s her choice - but she’ll have to work on the side.

My first job was in Washington, DC, and I would have loved to live right in the city. But I couldn’t afford it. I moved 45 minutes out, on a bus line to a Metro stop.

People aren’t entitled to live in the middle of expensive cities. I knew three people with jobs in Manhattan, and two lived in Staten Island and another in Jersey.

Way too much entitlement going on.

This is part of the big misunderstanding Lisa. That woman is a Trump supporter. Maybe she’s disabled and it’s not so easy for her to just pack everything up and go move somewhere else. She’s also old. Maybe she doesn’t have family that can help her move.

Here’s the bottom line that same studio would’ve been half the price just four years ago. That is what is being lost on folks in this conversation.

The other point is the average 25-year-old is making a lot less money compared to 40 years ago. These are the critical points that you and WEATHER53 …. This is nothing to do with entitlement, but are changing America and not to mention cancel culture which your generation did not have to go through