What difference does it make if being gay is genetic or if it's a choice?

[Meathead]

One is Genetically Defective
The other is Mentally Defective

Democrats are all wrapped up in that it has to be genetic, not a choice. What difference does it make? Why is that so critically important to them? Either way, it's not a job for government either to discriminate against gays or to validate who they have sex with. As long as it's a consenting adult, so the fuck what? Why is this such a critical distinction to the Democrats whether it's genetic or choice? What does it change?

Judge Barrett, don't use 'sexual preference' for LGBTQ people. It's incorrect and alarming.

Amy Coney Barrett graduated from law school first in her class. She's 48 and came of age with the LGBTQ rights movement. She should have known better.

www.usatoday.com

If you choose to be gay there's gotta be something wrong with you. I think it's a choice. I've never seen any kids talking about how they want to be queers when they grow up.

If no one would want to chose to be gay, wouldn't that support that they were born that way?

Could you chose to be gay? I couldn't. So why would they be able to chose to be straight?

The whole idea of sexual orientation being a "choice" suggests that at some point in our lives, all of us made a conscious decision to be straight or gay. Shouldn't we all be able to remember when we made this momentous decision, and on what basis we made our "choice"? I have no memory of sitting down and sussing it out.

Being straight - no discrimination, lower rates of AIDS, the ability of have children the "old fashioned way", the whole world is set up to revolve around the straight lifestyle;

Being gay - increased disposable income, no kids to support, reduced housing and work opportunities, potential to be beaten or killed by "gay bashers", increased bullying and harassment, family members may disown you, higher rates of suicide, limits dating opportunities to less than 10% of the single population.

I'm hard pressed to come up with ideas as to why anyone would "choose" to be gay. Maybe those who "chose" to be gay could enlighten the rest of us as to why you made this choice.

That doesn't answer the question. My question is why does it matter if they chose or were born that way?

It's doesn't to me. I don't want them to be treated any better or worse than any other American. So if they chose to be gay, you'd be for discriminating against gays?

No, I wouldn't. But others would use that as an excuse to disciminate as in "They made this choice to be different. Why must we accommodate them?" Or worse, those who promote "gay conversion therapy" or any of the other horrors visited upon gay children by parents who believe they can change their child's sexual orientation, when the child is still underaged and can't stop them from doing it.

If being gay is genetic, all of these horrors are estopped, and can be legally banned. If being gay is a choice, it will encourage the homophobes to continue to try to "save" their children from an "immoral and corrupt" lifestyle.

Oh, shut up. You're like a cartoon.

 

[Dragonlady]

One is Genetically Defective
The other is Mentally Defective

Democrats are all wrapped up in that it has to be genetic, not a choice. What difference does it make? Why is that so critically important to them? Either way, it's not a job for government either to discriminate against gays or to validate who they have sex with. As long as it's a consenting adult, so the fuck what? Why is this such a critical distinction to the Democrats whether it's genetic or choice? What does it change?

Judge Barrett, don't use 'sexual preference' for LGBTQ people. It's incorrect and alarming.

Amy Coney Barrett graduated from law school first in her class. She's 48 and came of age with the LGBTQ rights movement. She should have known better.

www.usatoday.com

If you choose to be gay there's gotta be something wrong with you. I think it's a choice. I've never seen any kids talking about how they want to be queers when they grow up.

If no one would want to chose to be gay, wouldn't that support that they were born that way?

Could you chose to be gay? I couldn't. So why would they be able to chose to be straight?

The whole idea of sexual orientation being a "choice" suggests that at some point in our lives, all of us made a conscious decision to be straight or gay. Shouldn't we all be able to remember when we made this momentous decision, and on what basis we made our "choice"? I have no memory of sitting down and sussing it out.

Being straight - no discrimination, lower rates of AIDS, the ability of have children the "old fashioned way", the whole world is set up to revolve around the straight lifestyle;

Being gay - increased disposable income, no kids to support, reduced housing and work opportunities, potential to be beaten or killed by "gay bashers", increased bullying and harassment, family members may disown you, higher rates of suicide, limits dating opportunities to less than 10% of the single population.

I'm hard pressed to come up with ideas as to why anyone would "choose" to be gay. Maybe those who "chose" to be gay could enlighten the rest of us as to why you made this choice.

That doesn't answer the question. My question is why does it matter if they chose or were born that way?

It's doesn't to me. I don't want them to be treated any better or worse than any other American. So if they chose to be gay, you'd be for discriminating against gays?

No, I wouldn't. But others would use that as an excuse to disciminate as in "They made this choice to be different. Why must we accommodate them?" Or worse, those who promote "gay conversion therapy" or any of the other horrors visited upon gay children by parents who believe they can change their child's sexual orientation, when the child is still underaged and can't stop them from doing it.

If being gay is genetic, all of these horrors are estopped, and can be legally banned. If being gay is a choice, it will encourage the homophobes to continue to try to "save" their children from an "immoral and corrupt" lifestyle.

So you're lying anticipating if you don't someone will do something to someone.

The dishonesty of the left in full bloom.

What if you're wrong? Then you're just a liar

Your post makes no sense. What am I supposedly lying about?

The abuse of gay children has been happening for years. Gay conversion therapy is only banned in 20 US states. Fear of being gay is the leading cause of teen suicide in the USA.

The Lies and Dangers of "Conversion Therapy"

Virginia becomes 20th state to ban conversion therapy

Virginia is the first Southern state to prohibit the widely discredited practice, which tries to change a person's sexual orientation or gender identity.

www.nbcnews.com

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-justice/news/2020/03/federal-government-introduces-legislation-to-criminalize-conversion-therapy-related-conduct-in-canada.ht

Germany is 5th country to ban conversion therapy for minors

The discredited practice purports to turn a gay person straight, and jurisdictions around the world have moved to prohibit it.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Dragonlady]

One is Genetically Defective
The other is Mentally Defective

Democrats are all wrapped up in that it has to be genetic, not a choice. What difference does it make? Why is that so critically important to them? Either way, it's not a job for government either to discriminate against gays or to validate who they have sex with. As long as it's a consenting adult, so the fuck what? Why is this such a critical distinction to the Democrats whether it's genetic or choice? What does it change?

Judge Barrett, don't use 'sexual preference' for LGBTQ people. It's incorrect and alarming.

Amy Coney Barrett graduated from law school first in her class. She's 48 and came of age with the LGBTQ rights movement. She should have known better.

www.usatoday.com

If you choose to be gay there's gotta be something wrong with you. I think it's a choice. I've never seen any kids talking about how they want to be queers when they grow up.

If no one would want to chose to be gay, wouldn't that support that they were born that way?

Could you chose to be gay? I couldn't. So why would they be able to chose to be straight?

The whole idea of sexual orientation being a "choice" suggests that at some point in our lives, all of us made a conscious decision to be straight or gay. Shouldn't we all be able to remember when we made this momentous decision, and on what basis we made our "choice"? I have no memory of sitting down and sussing it out.

Being straight - no discrimination, lower rates of AIDS, the ability of have children the "old fashioned way", the whole world is set up to revolve around the straight lifestyle;

Being gay - increased disposable income, no kids to support, reduced housing and work opportunities, potential to be beaten or killed by "gay bashers", increased bullying and harassment, family members may disown you, higher rates of suicide, limits dating opportunities to less than 10% of the single population.

I'm hard pressed to come up with ideas as to why anyone would "choose" to be gay. Maybe those who "chose" to be gay could enlighten the rest of us as to why you made this choice.

That doesn't answer the question. My question is why does it matter if they chose or were born that way?

It's doesn't to me. I don't want them to be treated any better or worse than any other American. So if they chose to be gay, you'd be for discriminating against gays?

No, I wouldn't. But others would use that as an excuse to disciminate as in "They made this choice to be different. Why must we accommodate them?" Or worse, those who promote "gay conversion therapy" or any of the other horrors visited upon gay children by parents who believe they can change their child's sexual orientation, when the child is still underaged and can't stop them from doing it.

If being gay is genetic, all of these horrors are estopped, and can be legally banned. If being gay is a choice, it will encourage the homophobes to continue to try to "save" their children from an "immoral and corrupt" lifestyle.

Oh, shut up. You're like a cartoon.

Triggered again?

 

[kaz]

One is Genetically Defective
The other is Mentally Defective

Democrats are all wrapped up in that it has to be genetic, not a choice. What difference does it make? Why is that so critically important to them? Either way, it's not a job for government either to discriminate against gays or to validate who they have sex with. As long as it's a consenting adult, so the fuck what? Why is this such a critical distinction to the Democrats whether it's genetic or choice? What does it change?

Judge Barrett, don't use 'sexual preference' for LGBTQ people. It's incorrect and alarming.

Amy Coney Barrett graduated from law school first in her class. She's 48 and came of age with the LGBTQ rights movement. She should have known better.

www.usatoday.com

If you choose to be gay there's gotta be something wrong with you. I think it's a choice. I've never seen any kids talking about how they want to be queers when they grow up.

If no one would want to chose to be gay, wouldn't that support that they were born that way?

Could you chose to be gay? I couldn't. So why would they be able to chose to be straight?

The whole idea of sexual orientation being a "choice" suggests that at some point in our lives, all of us made a conscious decision to be straight or gay. Shouldn't we all be able to remember when we made this momentous decision, and on what basis we made our "choice"? I have no memory of sitting down and sussing it out.

Being straight - no discrimination, lower rates of AIDS, the ability of have children the "old fashioned way", the whole world is set up to revolve around the straight lifestyle;

Being gay - increased disposable income, no kids to support, reduced housing and work opportunities, potential to be beaten or killed by "gay bashers", increased bullying and harassment, family members may disown you, higher rates of suicide, limits dating opportunities to less than 10% of the single population.

I'm hard pressed to come up with ideas as to why anyone would "choose" to be gay. Maybe those who "chose" to be gay could enlighten the rest of us as to why you made this choice.

That doesn't answer the question. My question is why does it matter if they chose or were born that way?

It's doesn't to me. I don't want them to be treated any better or worse than any other American. So if they chose to be gay, you'd be for discriminating against gays?

No, I wouldn't. But others would use that as an excuse to disciminate as in "They made this choice to be different. Why must we accommodate them?" Or worse, those who promote "gay conversion therapy" or any of the other horrors visited upon gay children by parents who believe they can change their child's sexual orientation, when the child is still underaged and can't stop them from doing it.

If being gay is genetic, all of these horrors are estopped, and can be legally banned. If being gay is a choice, it will encourage the homophobes to continue to try to "save" their children from an "immoral and corrupt" lifestyle.

Oh, shut up. You're like a cartoon.

Triggered again?

You're the one who's arguing that it has to be genetic because you've decided that lying is a better solution because of your own delusional paranoia about what someone might think. Now that's triggered.

You don't even live here, you're just the nosy neighbor, Mrs. Kravitz

 

[Dragonlady]

One is Genetically Defective
The other is Mentally Defective

Democrats are all wrapped up in that it has to be genetic, not a choice. What difference does it make? Why is that so critically important to them? Either way, it's not a job for government either to discriminate against gays or to validate who they have sex with. As long as it's a consenting adult, so the fuck what? Why is this such a critical distinction to the Democrats whether it's genetic or choice? What does it change?

Judge Barrett, don't use 'sexual preference' for LGBTQ people. It's incorrect and alarming.

Amy Coney Barrett graduated from law school first in her class. She's 48 and came of age with the LGBTQ rights movement. She should have known better.

www.usatoday.com

If you choose to be gay there's gotta be something wrong with you. I think it's a choice. I've never seen any kids talking about how they want to be queers when they grow up.

If no one would want to chose to be gay, wouldn't that support that they were born that way?

Could you chose to be gay? I couldn't. So why would they be able to chose to be straight?

The whole idea of sexual orientation being a "choice" suggests that at some point in our lives, all of us made a conscious decision to be straight or gay. Shouldn't we all be able to remember when we made this momentous decision, and on what basis we made our "choice"? I have no memory of sitting down and sussing it out.

Being straight - no discrimination, lower rates of AIDS, the ability of have children the "old fashioned way", the whole world is set up to revolve around the straight lifestyle;

Being gay - increased disposable income, no kids to support, reduced housing and work opportunities, potential to be beaten or killed by "gay bashers", increased bullying and harassment, family members may disown you, higher rates of suicide, limits dating opportunities to less than 10% of the single population.

I'm hard pressed to come up with ideas as to why anyone would "choose" to be gay. Maybe those who "chose" to be gay could enlighten the rest of us as to why you made this choice.

That doesn't answer the question. My question is why does it matter if they chose or were born that way?

It's doesn't to me. I don't want them to be treated any better or worse than any other American. So if they chose to be gay, you'd be for discriminating against gays?

No, I wouldn't. But others would use that as an excuse to disciminate as in "They made this choice to be different. Why must we accommodate them?" Or worse, those who promote "gay conversion therapy" or any of the other horrors visited upon gay children by parents who believe they can change their child's sexual orientation, when the child is still underaged and can't stop them from doing it.

If being gay is genetic, all of these horrors are estopped, and can be legally banned. If being gay is a choice, it will encourage the homophobes to continue to try to "save" their children from an "immoral and corrupt" lifestyle.

Oh, shut up. You're like a cartoon.

Triggered again?

You're the one who's arguing that it has to be genetic because you've decided that lying is a better solution because of your own delusional paranoia about what someone might think. Now that's triggered.

You don't even live here, you're just the nosy neighbor, Mrs. Kravitz

What bullshit. You asked what difference it makes whether it's genetic or choice. I gave you the reasons why it matters. Now you're trying to twist everything I posted, and accuse me of lying. You keep trying to play games with left wing posters, and twist our responses, and you're really, really bad at it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/08/29/theres-no-gay-gene-genetics-are-linked-same-sex-behavior-new-study-says/

Your stupid reindeer games are blowing up in your face.

 

[The Original Tree]

One is Genetically Defective
The other is Mentally Defective

Democrats are all wrapped up in that it has to be genetic, not a choice. What difference does it make? Why is that so critically important to them? Either way, it's not a job for government either to discriminate against gays or to validate who they have sex with. As long as it's a consenting adult, so the fuck what? Why is this such a critical distinction to the Democrats whether it's genetic or choice? What does it change?

Judge Barrett, don't use 'sexual preference' for LGBTQ people. It's incorrect and alarming.

Amy Coney Barrett graduated from law school first in her class. She's 48 and came of age with the LGBTQ rights movement. She should have known better.

www.usatoday.com

If you choose to be gay there's gotta be something wrong with you. I think it's a choice. I've never seen any kids talking about how they want to be queers when they grow up.

If no one would want to chose to be gay, wouldn't that support that they were born that way?

Could you chose to be gay? I couldn't. So why would they be able to chose to be straight?

The whole idea of sexual orientation being a "choice" suggests that at some point in our lives, all of us made a conscious decision to be straight or gay. Shouldn't we all be able to remember when we made this momentous decision, and on what basis we made our "choice"? I have no memory of sitting down and sussing it out.

Being straight - no discrimination, lower rates of AIDS, the ability of have children the "old fashioned way", the whole world is set up to revolve around the straight lifestyle;

Being gay - increased disposable income, no kids to support, reduced housing and work opportunities, potential to be beaten or killed by "gay bashers", increased bullying and harassment, family members may disown you, higher rates of suicide, limits dating opportunities to less than 10% of the single population.

I'm hard pressed to come up with ideas as to why anyone would "choose" to be gay. Maybe those who "chose" to be gay could enlighten the rest of us as to why you made this choice.

That doesn't answer the question. My question is why does it matter if they chose or were born that way?

It's doesn't to me. I don't want them to be treated any better or worse than any other American. So if they chose to be gay, you'd be for discriminating against gays?

No, I wouldn't. But others would use that as an excuse to disciminate as in "They made this choice to be different. Why must we accommodate them?" Or worse, those who promote "gay conversion therapy" or any of the other horrors visited upon gay children by parents who believe they can change their child's sexual orientation, when the child is still underaged and can't stop them from doing it.

If being gay is genetic, all of these horrors are estopped, and can be legally banned. If being gay is a choice, it will encourage the homophobes to continue to try to "save" their children from an "immoral and corrupt" lifestyle.

Oh, shut up. You're like a cartoon.

Triggered again?

You're the one who's arguing that it has to be genetic because you've decided that lying is a better solution because of your own delusional paranoia about what someone might think. Now that's triggered.

You don't even live here, you're just the nosy neighbor, Mrs. Kravitz

What bullshit. You asked what difference it makes whether it's genetic or choice. I gave you the reasons why it matters. Now you're trying to twist everything I posted, and accuse me of lying. You keep trying to play games with left wing posters, and twist our responses, and you're really, really bad at it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/08/29/theres-no-gay-gene-genetics-are-linked-same-sex-behavior-new-study-says/

Your stupid reindeer games are blowing up in your face.

If you care about children you must reject The Homesexual Joe Biden Agenda.

90% of pedophiles in jail are homosexuals and the overwhelming number of homosexuals are the victims of pedophilia.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Democrats are all wrapped up in that it has to be genetic, not a choice. What difference does it make? Why is that so critically important to them? Either way, it's not a job for government either to discriminate against gays or to validate who they have sex with. As long as it's a consenting adult, so the fuck what? Why is this such a critical distinction to the Democrats whether it's genetic or choice? What does it change?

Judge Barrett, don't use 'sexual preference' for LGBTQ people. It's incorrect and alarming.

Amy Coney Barrett graduated from law school first in her class. She's 48 and came of age with the LGBTQ rights movement. She should have known better.

www.usatoday.com

You stumbled over the answer in the quesrio.

If it is limited to consenting adults then it is irrelevant whether it is a preference or genetic

But these days it is clear that minors and children are involved. If it is considered genetic then they can force people including parents to accept their kids being gay or even taught to embrace their sexuality at a young age. The justification will be that it causes psychological harm for parents to teach a kid to be straight if the kid has the gay gene.

its all about control

It does cause great psychological harm for parents to try to "teach a kid to be straight". An overwhelming number of teenagers who commit suicide are gay. They'd rather be dead than gay.

I was on swim team with a boy I knew was gay when we were 10. He was so obviously never going to be dating women. I didn't even know what being gay meant at the time, but I knew Johnny "squats to pee", as my mother used to say it. As an adult, he was a total flamer, and worked in a drag revue.

When you talk to gay adults, their success as an adult, is often directly tied to whether or not their parents accepted and supported them in their sexual orientation. Those whose parents loved and accepted them always, do better and are more stable and financially successful in life.

As for children, just as straight parents can and frequently do successfully raise gay children, gay parents successfully raise straight children. Gay does not equal pedophile. Pedophilia is most overwhelmingly committed against young girls by straight men, and little is done to stop the incest and molestation of little girls. Girls are nearly four times more likely to be sexually abused, but SIS genedered males are bat shit crazy over the idea of gays being around little boys, while poo pooing the complaints that girls are more vulnerable and not well protected.

That is because even when a guy rapes a young boy-------he is not considered gay for it. The stats are wrong because the definations are off.

 

[The Original Tree]

One is Genetically Defective
The other is Mentally Defective

Democrats are all wrapped up in that it has to be genetic, not a choice. What difference does it make? Why is that so critically important to them? Either way, it's not a job for government either to discriminate against gays or to validate who they have sex with. As long as it's a consenting adult, so the fuck what? Why is this such a critical distinction to the Democrats whether it's genetic or choice? What does it change?

Judge Barrett, don't use 'sexual preference' for LGBTQ people. It's incorrect and alarming.

Amy Coney Barrett graduated from law school first in her class. She's 48 and came of age with the LGBTQ rights movement. She should have known better.

www.usatoday.com

If you choose to be gay there's gotta be something wrong with you. I think it's a choice. I've never seen any kids talking about how they want to be queers when they grow up.

If no one would want to chose to be gay, wouldn't that support that they were born that way?

Could you chose to be gay? I couldn't. So why would they be able to chose to be straight?

The whole idea of sexual orientation being a "choice" suggests that at some point in our lives, all of us made a conscious decision to be straight or gay. Shouldn't we all be able to remember when we made this momentous decision, and on what basis we made our "choice"? I have no memory of sitting down and sussing it out.

Being straight - no discrimination, lower rates of AIDS, the ability of have children the "old fashioned way", the whole world is set up to revolve around the straight lifestyle;

Being gay - increased disposable income, no kids to support, reduced housing and work opportunities, potential to be beaten or killed by "gay bashers", increased bullying and harassment, family members may disown you, higher rates of suicide, limits dating opportunities to less than 10% of the single population.

I'm hard pressed to come up with ideas as to why anyone would "choose" to be gay. Maybe those who "chose" to be gay could enlighten the rest of us as to why you made this choice.

That doesn't answer the question. My question is why does it matter if they chose or were born that way?

It's doesn't to me. I don't want them to be treated any better or worse than any other American. So if they chose to be gay, you'd be for discriminating against gays?

No, I wouldn't. But others would use that as an excuse to disciminate as in "They made this choice to be different. Why must we accommodate them?" Or worse, those who promote "gay conversion therapy" or any of the other horrors visited upon gay children by parents who believe they can change their child's sexual orientation, when the child is still underaged and can't stop them from doing it.

If being gay is genetic, all of these horrors are estopped, and can be legally banned. If being gay is a choice, it will encourage the homophobes to continue to try to "save" their children from an "immoral and corrupt" lifestyle.

So you're lying anticipating if you don't someone will do something to someone.

The dishonesty of the left in full bloom.

What if you're wrong? Then you're just a liar

Your post makes no sense. What am I supposedly lying about?

The abuse of gay children has been happening for years. Gay conversion therapy is only banned in 20 US states. Fear of being gay is the leading cause of teen suicide in the USA.

The Lies and Dangers of "Conversion Therapy"

Virginia becomes 20th state to ban conversion therapy

Virginia is the first Southern state to prohibit the widely discredited practice, which tries to change a person's sexual orientation or gender identity.

www.nbcnews.com

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-justice/news/2020/03/federal-government-introduces-legislation-to-criminalize-conversion-therapy-related-conduct-in-canada.ht

Germany is 5th country to ban conversion therapy for minors

The discredited practice purports to turn a gay person straight, and jurisdictions around the world have moved to prohibit it.

www.nbcnews.com

Explain why nearly all homosexuals are victims of homosexual rape when they were children.

 

[Leo123]

If being gay were genetic it would most certainly be an aberration which would be dealt with and handled like any mutation, we'd study it and try to preclude it's existence. If it is a choice then it is purely a deep psychological problem. IOW, no matter how you slice it, it's not normal.

 

[miketx]

One is Genetically Defective
The other is Mentally Defective

Democrats are all wrapped up in that it has to be genetic, not a choice. What difference does it make? Why is that so critically important to them? Either way, it's not a job for government either to discriminate against gays or to validate who they have sex with. As long as it's a consenting adult, so the fuck what? Why is this such a critical distinction to the Democrats whether it's genetic or choice? What does it change?

Judge Barrett, don't use 'sexual preference' for LGBTQ people. It's incorrect and alarming.

Amy Coney Barrett graduated from law school first in her class. She's 48 and came of age with the LGBTQ rights movement. She should have known better.

www.usatoday.com

If you choose to be gay there's gotta be something wrong with you. I think it's a choice. I've never seen any kids talking about how they want to be queers when they grow up.

If no one would want to chose to be gay, wouldn't that support that they were born that way?

Could you chose to be gay? I couldn't. So why would they be able to chose to be straight?

The whole idea of sexual orientation being a "choice" suggests that at some point in our lives, all of us made a conscious decision to be straight or gay. Shouldn't we all be able to remember when we made this momentous decision, and on what basis we made our "choice"? I have no memory of sitting down and sussing it out.

Being straight - no discrimination, lower rates of AIDS, the ability of have children the "old fashioned way", the whole world is set up to revolve around the straight lifestyle;

Being gay - increased disposable income, no kids to support, reduced housing and work opportunities, potential to be beaten or killed by "gay bashers", increased bullying and harassment, family members may disown you, higher rates of suicide, limits dating opportunities to less than 10% of the single population.

I'm hard pressed to come up with ideas as to why anyone would "choose" to be gay. Maybe those who "chose" to be gay could enlighten the rest of us as to why you made this choice.

That doesn't answer the question. My question is why does it matter if they chose or were born that way?

It's doesn't to me. I don't want them to be treated any better or worse than any other American. So if they chose to be gay, you'd be for discriminating against gays?

No, I wouldn't. But others would use that as an excuse to disciminate as in "They made this choice to be different. Why must we accommodate them?" Or worse, those who promote "gay conversion therapy" or any of the other horrors visited upon gay children by parents who believe they can change their child's sexual orientation, when the child is still underaged and can't stop them from doing it.

If being gay is genetic, all of these horrors are estopped, and can be legally banned. If being gay is a choice, it will encourage the homophobes to continue to try to "save" their children from an "immoral and corrupt" lifestyle.

So you're lying anticipating if you don't someone will do something to someone.

The dishonesty of the left in full bloom.

What if you're wrong? Then you're just a liar

Your post makes no sense. What am I supposedly lying about?

The abuse of gay children has been happening for years. Gay conversion therapy is only banned in 20 US states. Fear of being gay is the leading cause of teen suicide in the USA.

The Lies and Dangers of "Conversion Therapy"

Virginia becomes 20th state to ban conversion therapy

Virginia is the first Southern state to prohibit the widely discredited practice, which tries to change a person's sexual orientation or gender identity.

www.nbcnews.com

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-justice/news/2020/03/federal-government-introduces-legislation-to-criminalize-conversion-therapy-related-conduct-in-canada.ht

Germany is 5th country to ban conversion therapy for minors

The discredited practice purports to turn a gay person straight, and jurisdictions around the world have moved to prohibit it.

www.nbcnews.com

Explain why nearly all homosexuals are victims of homosexual rape when they were children.

Democrats.

 

[initforme]

We just can't let people be we just have to try and change them. It matters NOT what others do in the privacy of their home and if it bothers you then move to a country that doesn't accept it. Homosexuals pise ZERO threat to my traditional marriage. Some of you abject liberty and freedom haters are just hypocrites and vermin.

 

[basquebromance]

Justice Byron White, APPOINTED BY JFK: The idea of constitutional protections for gay couples "is, at best, facetious"

 

[Juicin]

There is evidence it is genetic for men

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/08/29/theres-no-gay-gene-genetics-are-linked-same-sex-behavior-new-study-says/

women are of course all have a little lesbian in em jejejejeje

No we don't. I have never had any interest in a sexual relationship with another woman. I'm not even what the kids call "bi-curious". I have a lot of straight female friends who would say the same thing. I have female friends who are bi or lesbian, but they're a lot fewer in number than than women like me who are straight.

calm down it was a joke

 

[Leo123]

We just can't let people be we just have to try and change them. It matters NOT what others do in the privacy of their home and if it bothers you then move to a country that doesn't accept it. Homosexuals pise ZERO threat to my traditional marriage. Some of you abject liberty and freedom haters are just hypocrites and vermin.

It may not affect your marriage but it sure as Hell will affect your children.

 

[BrokeLoser]

We just can't let people be we just have to try and change them. It matters NOT what others do in the privacy of their home and if it bothers you then move to a country that doesn't accept it. Homosexuals pise ZERO threat to my traditional marriage. Some of you abject liberty and freedom haters are just hypocrites and vermin.

Productive, likeminded, first world societies like to establish a level of normalcy...That anything goes, no boundaries free for all bullshit you weirdos seek can be found in any filthy thirdworld shithole...I’d head there if I loved filth.

 

[Soupnazi630]

We just can't let people be we just have to try and change them. It matters NOT what others do in the privacy of their home and if it bothers you then move to a country that doesn't accept it. Homosexuals pise ZERO threat to my traditional marriage. Some of you abject liberty and freedom haters are just hypocrites and vermin.

All true but also not the point So

No one including the opposite suggests otherwise.

if it matters not what people do in the privacy of their home then people who raise their kids to consider homosexuality a sin should be left alone.

 

[Blues Man]

I just can't figure out why you people care who another person is attracted to.

Life is short so if a same sex partner makes people happy who are any of you to stop them?

I don't care who they love. I do care that it is the law. Our society is dying the "death of 1000 cuts", and watering down marriage is simply one more cut.

Mark

I disagree.

Any and all citizens are entitles to all the legal protections as anyone else.

What do you care if two same sex people marry so that the partners can receive all the protections we as a society have agreed upon?

What does it matter when it comes decisions like medical care, or health insurance if a married couple is same sex or not?

On your last question, I agree as long as you mean it's between you, your employer, your insurance company, whoever, but it's not government regulation. Government should stay out of it

So you want to get rid of all anti-discrimination laws?

Yes. Government should not be allowed to discriminate. But government has no legitimate power to control the relationship between private citizens. Talk about being a slave to government

So then you want to go back to White only drinking fountains etc?

We benefit more as an inclusive society.

The more people that are included the happier and more productive they are.

Well, that's a totally vacuous statement since you were completely vague about what you meant. So let's go back to what I said.

Government drinking fountains could not be white only. Parks, government buildings, government schools, none cold do that. I said that. Sure, privately owned drinking fountains could be. Not that anyone would do that other than maybe some redneck bar on Boonieville where blacks wouldn't really want to go anyway.

Even the Montgomery Bus Company opposed the laws that forced their most loyal customers to the back of the bus and to stand, it was terrible for business. Pick up a history book. And that was 50s Alabama.

Public accommodation laws are a sledge hammer solution to a non-existent problem. Only a true government loving leftist would ever look at the reality of those laws and support them

you assume no one would do that again but I don't.

I have a feeling they would.

I don't find public accommodation laws to be a burden at all. And you might want to realize that the nonexistent problem you speak of is nonexistent because of public accommodation laws.

I just gave you the specific example that even in deep South Alabama the Montgomery Bus Company OPPOSED Jim Crow laws.

Note Jim Crow ... LAWS ... It was government that did that. And government is your solution to prevent it. See anything wrong with that at all?

One bus company in Alabama

Really?

How many other states had Jim Crow-esque laws on the books at the time?

And we have laws for all kinds of things I just don't see how anti-discrimination or public accommodation laws are so egregious compared to many others.

You don't know the significance of the Montgomery Bus Company? Seriously?

I want to the heart of the beast, Alabama in the 50s to make the point that businesses care only about serving one color, green. That we are looking for a reason to not do business with people is moronic. Customers are our target. Think about it.

So you have not demonstrated any significant discrimination from private businesses ever. I pointed out that the most prolific case ever of discrimination, which was even a quasi government company and not free market, needed the riders and opposed driving them away.

So make the case what good the sledge hammer of power you give government does

you haven't demonstrated any significant lack of discrimination.

One example is hardly proof.

And tell me how is it a sledge hammer?

You really think anti-discrimination laws and public access laws are tantamount to taking a sledgehammer to your freedoms?

I'd be far more worried about laws that actually restrict my rights than those.

And don't forget there are still instances where a business owner can refuse service.

So you think laws should be enacted unless we can prove they aren't needed? Seriously? The burden is not on you to support a law you agree with, it's my job to prove you wrong? Pass, but wow ...

I think anti-discrimination laws ARE needed.

And as laws go they are some of the least restrictive.

 

[Blues Man]

One is Genetically Defective
The other is Mentally Defective

Democrats are all wrapped up in that it has to be genetic, not a choice. What difference does it make? Why is that so critically important to them? Either way, it's not a job for government either to discriminate against gays or to validate who they have sex with. As long as it's a consenting adult, so the fuck what? Why is this such a critical distinction to the Democrats whether it's genetic or choice? What does it change?

Judge Barrett, don't use 'sexual preference' for LGBTQ people. It's incorrect and alarming.

Amy Coney Barrett graduated from law school first in her class. She's 48 and came of age with the LGBTQ rights movement. She should have known better.

www.usatoday.com

If you choose to be gay there's gotta be something wrong with you. I think it's a choice. I've never seen any kids talking about how they want to be queers when they grow up.

If no one would want to chose to be gay, wouldn't that support that they were born that way?

Could you chose to be gay? I couldn't. So why would they be able to chose to be straight?

The whole idea of sexual orientation being a "choice" suggests that at some point in our lives, all of us made a conscious decision to be straight or gay. Shouldn't we all be able to remember when we made this momentous decision, and on what basis we made our "choice"? I have no memory of sitting down and sussing it out.

Being straight - no discrimination, lower rates of AIDS, the ability of have children the "old fashioned way", the whole world is set up to revolve around the straight lifestyle;

Being gay - increased disposable income, no kids to support, reduced housing and work opportunities, potential to be beaten or killed by "gay bashers", increased bullying and harassment, family members may disown you, higher rates of suicide, limits dating opportunities to less than 10% of the single population.

I'm hard pressed to come up with ideas as to why anyone would "choose" to be gay. Maybe those who "chose" to be gay could enlighten the rest of us as to why you made this choice.

That doesn't answer the question. My question is why does it matter if they chose or were born that way?

It's doesn't to me. I don't want them to be treated any better or worse than any other American. So if they chose to be gay, you'd be for discriminating against gays?

No, I wouldn't. But others would use that as an excuse to disciminate as in "They made this choice to be different. Why must we accommodate them?" Or worse, those who promote "gay conversion therapy" or any of the other horrors visited upon gay children by parents who believe they can change their child's sexual orientation, when the child is still underaged and can't stop them from doing it.

If being gay is genetic, all of these horrors are estopped, and can be legally banned. If being gay is a choice, it will encourage the homophobes to continue to try to "save" their children from an "immoral and corrupt" lifestyle.

Oh, shut up. You're like a cartoon.

Triggered again?

You're the one who's arguing that it has to be genetic because you've decided that lying is a better solution because of your own delusional paranoia about what someone might think. Now that's triggered.

You don't even live here, you're just the nosy neighbor, Mrs. Kravitz

What bullshit. You asked what difference it makes whether it's genetic or choice. I gave you the reasons why it matters. Now you're trying to twist everything I posted, and accuse me of lying. You keep trying to play games with left wing posters, and twist our responses, and you're really, really bad at it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/08/29/theres-no-gay-gene-genetics-are-linked-same-sex-behavior-new-study-says/

Your stupid reindeer games are blowing up in your face.

If you care about children you must reject The Homesexual Joe Biden Agenda.

90% of pedophiles in jail are homosexuals and the overwhelming number of homosexuals are the victims of pedophilia.

Link

 

[kaz]

One is Genetically Defective
The other is Mentally Defective

Democrats are all wrapped up in that it has to be genetic, not a choice. What difference does it make? Why is that so critically important to them? Either way, it's not a job for government either to discriminate against gays or to validate who they have sex with. As long as it's a consenting adult, so the fuck what? Why is this such a critical distinction to the Democrats whether it's genetic or choice? What does it change?

Judge Barrett, don't use 'sexual preference' for LGBTQ people. It's incorrect and alarming.

Amy Coney Barrett graduated from law school first in her class. She's 48 and came of age with the LGBTQ rights movement. She should have known better.

www.usatoday.com

If you choose to be gay there's gotta be something wrong with you. I think it's a choice. I've never seen any kids talking about how they want to be queers when they grow up.

If no one would want to chose to be gay, wouldn't that support that they were born that way?

Could you chose to be gay? I couldn't. So why would they be able to chose to be straight?

The whole idea of sexual orientation being a "choice" suggests that at some point in our lives, all of us made a conscious decision to be straight or gay. Shouldn't we all be able to remember when we made this momentous decision, and on what basis we made our "choice"? I have no memory of sitting down and sussing it out.

Being straight - no discrimination, lower rates of AIDS, the ability of have children the "old fashioned way", the whole world is set up to revolve around the straight lifestyle;

Being gay - increased disposable income, no kids to support, reduced housing and work opportunities, potential to be beaten or killed by "gay bashers", increased bullying and harassment, family members may disown you, higher rates of suicide, limits dating opportunities to less than 10% of the single population.

I'm hard pressed to come up with ideas as to why anyone would "choose" to be gay. Maybe those who "chose" to be gay could enlighten the rest of us as to why you made this choice.

That doesn't answer the question. My question is why does it matter if they chose or were born that way?

It's doesn't to me. I don't want them to be treated any better or worse than any other American. So if they chose to be gay, you'd be for discriminating against gays?

No, I wouldn't. But others would use that as an excuse to disciminate as in "They made this choice to be different. Why must we accommodate them?" Or worse, those who promote "gay conversion therapy" or any of the other horrors visited upon gay children by parents who believe they can change their child's sexual orientation, when the child is still underaged and can't stop them from doing it.

If being gay is genetic, all of these horrors are estopped, and can be legally banned. If being gay is a choice, it will encourage the homophobes to continue to try to "save" their children from an "immoral and corrupt" lifestyle.

Oh, shut up. You're like a cartoon.

Triggered again?

You're the one who's arguing that it has to be genetic because you've decided that lying is a better solution because of your own delusional paranoia about what someone might think. Now that's triggered.

You don't even live here, you're just the nosy neighbor, Mrs. Kravitz

What bullshit. You asked what difference it makes whether it's genetic or choice. I gave you the reasons why it matters. Now you're trying to twist everything I posted, and accuse me of lying. You keep trying to play games with left wing posters, and twist our responses, and you're really, really bad at it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/08/29/theres-no-gay-gene-genetics-are-linked-same-sex-behavior-new-study-says/

Your stupid reindeer games are blowing up in your face.

Yes, you said you have to lie and say it's genetic because a boogie man is going to come if you don't say that. You think lying will protect gays from those evil neighbor kids. You know, in your neighbor's house you're always starting at through your binoculars. It's retarded

 

[kaz]

One is Genetically Defective
The other is Mentally Defective

Democrats are all wrapped up in that it has to be genetic, not a choice. What difference does it make? Why is that so critically important to them? Either way, it's not a job for government either to discriminate against gays or to validate who they have sex with. As long as it's a consenting adult, so the fuck what? Why is this such a critical distinction to the Democrats whether it's genetic or choice? What does it change?

Judge Barrett, don't use 'sexual preference' for LGBTQ people. It's incorrect and alarming.

Amy Coney Barrett graduated from law school first in her class. She's 48 and came of age with the LGBTQ rights movement. She should have known better.

www.usatoday.com

If you choose to be gay there's gotta be something wrong with you. I think it's a choice. I've never seen any kids talking about how they want to be queers when they grow up.

If no one would want to chose to be gay, wouldn't that support that they were born that way?

Could you chose to be gay? I couldn't. So why would they be able to chose to be straight?

The whole idea of sexual orientation being a "choice" suggests that at some point in our lives, all of us made a conscious decision to be straight or gay. Shouldn't we all be able to remember when we made this momentous decision, and on what basis we made our "choice"? I have no memory of sitting down and sussing it out.

Being straight - no discrimination, lower rates of AIDS, the ability of have children the "old fashioned way", the whole world is set up to revolve around the straight lifestyle;

Being gay - increased disposable income, no kids to support, reduced housing and work opportunities, potential to be beaten or killed by "gay bashers", increased bullying and harassment, family members may disown you, higher rates of suicide, limits dating opportunities to less than 10% of the single population.

I'm hard pressed to come up with ideas as to why anyone would "choose" to be gay. Maybe those who "chose" to be gay could enlighten the rest of us as to why you made this choice.

That doesn't answer the question. My question is why does it matter if they chose or were born that way?

It's doesn't to me. I don't want them to be treated any better or worse than any other American. So if they chose to be gay, you'd be for discriminating against gays?

No, I wouldn't. But others would use that as an excuse to disciminate as in "They made this choice to be different. Why must we accommodate them?" Or worse, those who promote "gay conversion therapy" or any of the other horrors visited upon gay children by parents who believe they can change their child's sexual orientation, when the child is still underaged and can't stop them from doing it.

If being gay is genetic, all of these horrors are estopped, and can be legally banned. If being gay is a choice, it will encourage the homophobes to continue to try to "save" their children from an "immoral and corrupt" lifestyle.

Oh, shut up. You're like a cartoon.

Triggered again?

You're the one who's arguing that it has to be genetic because you've decided that lying is a better solution because of your own delusional paranoia about what someone might think. Now that's triggered.

You don't even live here, you're just the nosy neighbor, Mrs. Kravitz

What bullshit. You asked what difference it makes whether it's genetic or choice. I gave you the reasons why it matters. Now you're trying to twist everything I posted, and accuse me of lying. You keep trying to play games with left wing posters, and twist our responses, and you're really, really bad at it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/08/29/theres-no-gay-gene-genetics-are-linked-same-sex-behavior-new-study-says/

Your stupid reindeer games are blowing up in your face.

If you care about children you must reject The Homesexual Joe Biden Agenda.

90% of pedophiles in jail are homosexuals and the overwhelming number of homosexuals are the victims of pedophilia.

"90% of pedophiles in jail are homosexuals" - That really isn't a good argument because such a small percentage of gays are pedophiles. You really get into a segmentation issue and cause and effect. What percentage of bank robbers drove cars to the bank?

"the overwhelming number of homosexuals are the victims of pedophilia" - Now that's fake news