What did our founders really mean when they said “general welfare”?

[jc456]

Nope, you're the one denying the Preamble to the Constitution.

It’s a preamble. No more

 

[otto105]

It’s a preamble. No more

The Preamble is the dead founding father's statement on the meaning and intent of the Constitution fuckup.

 

[jc456]

The Preamble is the dead founding father's statement on the meaning and intent of the Constitution fuckup.

yep, exactly, it doesn't point to any one amendment, it is a summary of the intent of the amendments. The amendments are the law.

 

[Hum Dinger]

You don’t have the first clue about what you’re talking about.

I doubt you've ever read the Constitution. You, like all MAGGOTS, just assume it says whatever you want it to say.

The preamble was written for a reason. It is not just 'pretty words', dumbass!

 

[BackAgain]

I doubt you've ever read the Constitution. You, like all MAGGOTS, just assume it says whatever you want it to say.

I did . And unlike you, I understood it.

The preamble was written for a reason. It is not just 'pretty words', dumbass!

Yes. The reason for the preamble was to advise future readers the general scope of what the actual Constitution would be spelling out.

 

[jc456]

I doubt you've ever read the Constitution. You, like all MAGGOTS, just assume it says whatever you want it to say.

The preamble was written for a reason. It is not just 'pretty words', dumbass!

Projecting

 

[BrokeLoser]

It is.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare(well being), and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Our preamble was written in 1787 and free-shit / welfare wasn’t introduced until the 1930’s….If “promote the general welfare” meant free-shit for degenerate lowlife bottom feeders then why do you suppose we waited 140+ years to start handing out free-shit?

 

[sparky]

I'm go out on a limb and claim the FF's didn't mean EBT cards

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[rightwinger]

Our preamble was written in 1787 and free-shit / welfare wasn’t introduced until the 1930’s….If “promote the general welfare” meant free-shit for degenerate lowlife bottom feeders then why do you suppose we waited 140+ years to start handing out free-shit?

General welfare means do what is best for We the people

It can mean help those who need help but is not limited to that

 

[TNHarley]

General welfare means do what is best for We the people

It can mean help those who need help but is not limited to that

Within the [powers listed in the constitution. Redistribution isnt one of the powers.
See, our founders were REAL progressives. They looked toward the future. Strong central governments and huge taxation is regressive. Thats why they told the king to fuck off. And you little pinko mf'ers are regressing us back.

 

[rightwinger]

Within the [powers listed in the constitution. Redistribution isnt one of the powers.
See, our founders were REAL progressives. They looked toward the future. Strong central governments and huge taxation is regressive. Thats why they told the king to fuck off. And you little pinko mf'ers are regressing us back.

It is not redistribution
It is helping those who need help

Congress has the power to levy taxes

 

[TNHarley]

It is not redistribution
It is helping those who need help

Congress has the power to levy taxes

Its redistribution.
So, if congress wanted to tax people in order to kill off all the elderly, it would be fine?

 

[Slade3200]

Our preamble was written in 1787 and free-shit / welfare wasn’t introduced until the 1930’s….If “promote the general welfare” meant free-shit for degenerate lowlife bottom feeders then why do you suppose we waited 140+ years to start handing out free-shit?

Easy, because we needed time to evolve from a rogue country of settlers and rebels to an economy world superpower. The founding fathers built the system to be able to evolve as the needs and will of the people evolves. They certainly didn’t expect the system to remain the same in perpetuity

 

[rightwinger]

Its redistribution.
So, if congress wanted to tax people in order to kill off all the elderly, it would be fine?

Helping We the People is general welfare

 

[IM2]

Our preamble was written in 1787 and free-shit / welfare wasn’t introduced until the 1930’s….If “promote the general welfare” meant free-shit for degenerate lowlife bottom feeders then why do you suppose we waited 140+ years to start handing out free-shit?

GENERAL WELL BEING is not the same as GENERAL WELFARE and free land was being handed out to whites at the time the costitution was written.

In 1618, the Virginia colony passed "the Great Charter of privileges, orders, and laws." Among these laws was a provision that any person who settled in Virginia or paid for the transportation of another person to settle in Virginia would get fifty acres of land per person. “The right to receive fifty acres per person, or per head, was called a headright.” It got even better for colonists as those who “imported” slaves also got 50 acres per slave. The practice was continued by the government of Virginia, for 161 years, ending in 1779. Headrights were not only limited to Virginia. The headright system was used in all the original 13 colonies. Headrights were the first of many government handouts of free stuff or guarantees providing whites with economic development assistance.

Source: Get Your Knee off Our Necks, pgs. 75-76

 

[TNHarley]

Easy, because we needed time to evolve from a rogue country of settlers and rebels to an economy world superpower. The founding fathers built the system to be able to evolve as the needs and will of the people evolves. They certainly didn’t expect the system to remain the same in perpetuity

Yes, they made an amendment process. But nobody tries to do that. They just pass unconstitutional BS and hope nobody challenges it.

 

[TNHarley]

Helping We the People is general welfare

You have serious problems following along.

 

[TNHarley]

GENERAL WELL BEING is not the same as GENERAL WELFARE and free land was being handed out to whites at the time the costitution was written.

In 1618, the Virginia colony passed "the Great Charter of privileges, orders, and laws." Among these laws was a provision that any person who settled in Virginia or paid for the transportation of another person to settle in Virginia would get fifty acres of land per person. “The right to receive fifty acres per person, or per head, was called a headright.” It got even better for colonists as those who “imported” slaves also got 50 acres per slave. The practice was continued by the government of Virginia, for 161 years, ending in 1779. Headrights were not only limited to Virginia. The headright system was used in all the original 13 colonies. Headrights were the first of many government handouts of free stuff or guarantees providing whites with economic development assistance.

Source: Get Your Knee off Our Necks, pgs. 75-76

Countries have been known to do that. Its how you draw people in. Bodunk towns in italy will pay you to move there for example. Or sell foreclosed homes for 10K dollars.
Whine some moar.

 

[IM2]

It is not redistribution
It is helping those who need help

Congress has the power to levy taxes

The people telling him how welfare is redistributing wealth are the ones who get the most welfare.

 

[sparky]

The people telling him how welfare is redistributing wealth are the ones who get the most welfare.

hoodie IM2?

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