We're in a Revenge Movie

Are you running away from the question?

How about post # 27's question?
I can't answer it because the question is flawed. And there's no point in getting into it.

Again, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'd like to be able to communicate with you people here, but I truly don't know how. So I'm not trying any more here.
 
Again, they support Trump, because they ARE him.
Yeah, that's what I learned in 2016, when I realized America isn't what I thought it was. He likes hurting people. I didn't realize they did, too. It does explain a lot. A person has to be terribly aggrieved to be like that.

This thread illustrates why so many Americans can't understand what is happening. MAGA has virtually no ability to intelligently articulate why they behave the way they do. All you get is weird misinformation, shallow platitudes and personal attacks.
 
I can't answer it because the question is flawed. And there's no point in getting into it.

Again, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'd like to be able to communicate with you people here, but I truly don't know how. So I'm not trying any more.

What is the flaw?

You communicate by not answering questions on the subject- post #27?
 
You don't think the Democrats deserve to be punished for four years of Bidenomics, lawfare, and open borders?
Hmm...well, given the fact that Biden started out in a well (Trump's blown response) of a global pandemic and supply chain issues, I'd say we ended up pretty well. Inflation was headed down, as well as prices.
Biden didn't get one good news cycle his entire four years. Just playing janitor. His only real sin was the sin of pride.
He should have stepped aside and allowed someone else to run. Had it been Shapiro, Kelly or even Newsom, I suspect the outcome of the election would have been different.

That, and Democrats can't message their way out of a wet paper bag. :)
 
Hmm...well, given the fact that Biden started out in a well (Trump's blown response) of a global pandemic and supply chain issues, I'd say we ended up pretty well. Inflation was headed down, as well as prices.
Biden didn't get one good news cycle his entire four years. Just playing janitor. His only real sin was the sin of pride.
He should have stepped aside and allowed someone else to run. Had it been Shapiro, Kelly or even Newsom, I suspect the outcome of the election would have been different.

That, and Democrats can't message their way out of a wet paper bag. :)

Four years of Bidenomics and America did quite well? Unbelievable.
 
This moment is like a revenge movie. The hero victim suffers years of brutal physical and psychological torture in the basement of some shabby house at the hands of some demented sicko. He finally escapes and comes back to take revenge by doing all the same things to the sicko that had been done to him. Starring Christian Bale as the hero and Ralph Fiennes as the sicko.

I'm just trying to figure out how MAGA people were so terribly tortured.

I certainly get Trump's motivations. In his mind, he's never done anything wrong, and anyone who holds him accountable for anything is mean and nasty and must pay the price. That's just standard psychosis and immature narcissism.

But the joy the MAGA people get from this revenge and carnage is different. It appears that, in their minds, they've been brutally tortured for a long time and are taking great pleasure in watching their captors suffer, convinced that the world is being cleansed while it's all burning down around them. This isn't about fairness or justice. What is this?

I know there will be the standard personal insults and attacks and deflection here, and that's fine, but I wonder if anyone has a theory.


‘I love getting even with people’ — Trump’s vengeance agenda
I've tried to come up with a unifying theory behind the disparate people attracted to this professional conman we call the prez. I don't know many personally. Only one who voted for him and he's an educated, accomplished partner in an accounting firm.

What comes thru to me judging by the posters on the board who support trump is a disturbing lack of maturity and of course their propensity for being misinformed and or uninformed.

But I think what you're looking for is more along the lines of a psychological reason to explain the adoration for an ignorant social deviant. Boiled down to its essence I think The Following feels slighted. By what I'm not sure. Many things I suppose. Things not necessarily common to all of them. The unifying theory being the anger being slighted evokes. And, unfortunately, bigotry seems to play a big part in this. After all, bigotry got the trumpian ball rolling.

Taken all together its a toxic stew allowing them to perform the Herculean task of looking past the illegal acts, the rape, the serial adultery, the boorishness, the abject stupidity, the grifting, the lack of character, the desire to surround himself with criminals, and seeing one of history's most flawed human beings as their messiah.

Moreover, I guess my unsolicited advice is don't try to make sense out of the nonsensical. That said, I too share your desire to do so. The thing is, understanding why doesn't really help, does it? It won't alter their blind devotion. Nothing will. Until the calamity comes knocking on their door.
 
Four years of Bidenomics and America did quite well? Unbelievable.
Sorry slugger, despite your best attempts at deflection, I've got you on this one.
Again, had Skippy taken the response to the virus a little more seriously in 2020, the damage might not have been as
bad. So do us a favor, stop excusing the incompetence of your savior.
 
I've tried to come up with a unifying theory behind the disparate people attracted to this professional conman we call the prez. I don't know many personally. Only one who voted for him and he's an educated, accomplished partner in an accounting firm.

What comes thru to me judging by the posters on the board who support trump is a disturbing lack of maturity and of course their propensity for being misinformed and or uninformed.

But I think what you're looking for is more along the lines of a psychological reason to explain the adoration for an ignorant social deviant. Boiled down to its essence I think The Following feels slighted. By what I'm not sure. Many things I suppose. Things not necessarily common to all of them. The unifying theory being the anger being slighted evokes. And, unfortunately, bigotry seems to play a big part in this. After all, bigotry got the trumpian ball rolling.

Taken all together its a toxic stew allowing them to perform the Herculean task of looking past the illegal acts, the rape, the serial adultery, the boorishness, the abject stupidity, the grifting, the lack of character, the desire to surround himself with criminals, and seeing one of history's most flawed human beings as their messiah.

Moreover, I guess my unsolicited advice is don't try to make sense out of the nonsensical. That said, I too share your desire to do so. The thing is, understanding why doesn't really help, does it? It won't alter their blind devotion. Nothing will. Until the calamity comes knocking on their door.
I had several Trumpster advisory clients before I retired, and spoke with them regularly. Without going into the boring detail, I was constantly amazed by what they were being told in their world. I call it "mal-information". And the abject fear I saw in their faces so often, especially when Biden won, it's difficult to describe.

And yeah, I'm far more interested in the sociological/psychological aspects of politics than in politics itself (I have no idea why). Here's my theory: I think the Right has perfectly reasonable concerns and general opinions on the issues, whether I fully agree or not (and I agree on many). The problem is -- and this has been escalating since the days of Limbaugh -- the 24/7/365 voices they trust have amplified everything by a factor of a thousand, leaving them in this ongoing manic state.

My concern, and I've expressed it many times since the day Trump was first elected, is that he/they will screw this up so badly that we'll end up swinging wildly back to the Left, and I sure as hell don't want that, either. At this moment, my concerns are playing out in real time. Only quite a bit worse.
 
Sorry slugger, despite your best attempts at deflection, I've got you on this one.
Again, had Skippy taken the response to the virus a little more seriously in 2020, the damage might not have been as
bad. So do us a favor, stop excusing the incompetence of your savior.

The Trump economy was doing very well, until China let their Fauci-funded little virus out of their Wuhan lab. Four years of Bidenomics only made the American People suffer even more.
 
And the abject fear I saw in their faces so often, especially when Biden won, it's difficult to describe.

Did they shave their heads and refuse to have sex with the opposite sex like the Kamala supporters did?
 
The Trump economy was doing very well, until China let their Fauci-funded little virus out of their Wuhan lab. Four years of Bidenomics only made the American People suffer even more.
Except you have evidence that happened. Despite your best attempts to prop up your little conspiracy theories.
Trump blew the response. The buck stops with him. He is the reason the results of the virus wreaked havoc on our economy. Him..and no one else. Biden was forced to play janitor from day one.
 
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I'm just trying to figure out how MAGA people were so terribly tortured.
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How are you trying to do that?

Have you "asked" any of them? Have you ever, and I do mean EVER, listened to them dsicuss their personal experiances that led them to being as pissed off as we are?


OR, do you dismiss everything they say, immediately and then ask questions like this, but ignore all the answers that aren't what you want to hear?
 
I had several Trumpster advisory clients before I retired, and spoke with them regularly. Without going into the boring detail, I was constantly amazed by what they were being told in their world. I call it "mal-information". And the abject fear I saw in their faces so often, especially when Biden won, it's difficult to describe.

And yeah, I'm far more interested in the sociological/psychological aspects of politics than in politics itself (I have no idea why). Here's my theory: I think the Right has perfectly reasonable concerns and general opinions on the issues, whether I fully agree or not (and I agree on many). The problem is -- and this has been escalating since the days of Limbaugh -- the 24/7/365 voices they trust have amplified everything by a factor of a thousand, leaving them in this ongoing manic state.

My concern, and I've expressed it many times since the day Trump was first elected, is that he/they will screw this up so badly that we'll end up swinging wildly back to the Left, and I sure as hell don't want that, either. At this moment, my concerns are playing out in real time. Only quite a bit worse.
One thing I found fascinating were the accounts of people who were involved in the Jan. 6 riot that had come to recognize it as a mistake. The way they spoke about what made them decide to go to DC and participate can't accurately be described as anything other than it being cult-like. I understand it's a loaded term invoking a visceral reaction from trumples but nothing else captures the state of mind they were in at the time. The parallels to other people who were involved in a cult and subsequently left are stunning. It's as thought they experience a temporary loss of touch with the real world.
 
Except you have evidence that happened. Despite your best attempts to prop up your little conspiracy theories.
Trump blew the response. The buck stops with him. He is the reason the results of the virus wreaked havoc on our economy. Him..and no one else. Biden was forced to play janitor from day one.



Biden and Democrat governors continued to keep Americans isolated way beyond what was necessary.
To this day, progressive sheep are still wearing face diapers to virtue signal.
 
How are you trying to do that?

Have you "asked" any of them? Have you ever, and I do mean EVER, listened to them dsicuss their personal experiances that led them to being as pissed off as we are?


OR, do you dismiss everything they say, immediately and then ask questions like this, but ignore all the answers that aren't what you want to hear?
Please see the first paragraph of post 49. Now you know.
 
I'd love to have video of mac's face when he sees this and is mind has to... justify... no, RATIONALIZE, his immediate dismissal of it.



I wonder... if there is a flicker of SOMETHING, in his eyes, for even a second, or is it just too well developed response.

He flees from actually discussing his "subject". Post #27 remains unanswered.
 
How are you trying to do that?

Have you "asked" any of them? Have you ever, and I do mean EVER, listened to them dsicuss their personal experiances that led them to being as pissed off as we are?
The accountant friend I mentioned, I know why he feels slighted. He's been financially successful and resents having to pay taxes according to his income. He sees people who have not had his degree of success as lazy, undeserving beneficiaries of the taxes he pays.
 
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