We’re Finally Seeing the “Evidence” Against the Migrants Deported by Trump. It’s Unbelievable.

Similar doesn't mean equal. They're two different things. What Trump is doing is in its own league, and a far bigger threat.

But I definitely think that the Left's overuse of PC & Identity Politics played a role in the rise of Trumpism in the first place.
I should think people who vote should be responsible enough to know who they are voting for, it's not like Trump has hid who he really is. You want to blame Dems for Trump voter's ignorance for voting for Trump? I don't think that is fair. That would be like blaming a girl for being raped because she wore a short skirt. Just like that short skirt, PC,. as annoying as it was, it is protected 'speech' by the first amendment Either you believe in the BoR or you don't.
 
yeah, here no evil, see no evil, right? History is replete with you dumbasses looking the other way as tyranny grows.
What was EVIL was the blatant disregard for our borders and letting in MILLIONS of ILLEGAL ALIENS. Setting up circumstances than enabled HUMAN TRAFFICING and TONS OF DRUGS into our country.
The demented LEFT refuses to acknowledge these realities and instead choose to stomp their feet a cry over the removal of VIOLENT CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Keep it up, dunbasses, all the way to the midterms.....:eusa_whistle:
 
I should think people who vote should be responsible enough to know who they are voting for, it's not like Trump has hid who he really is. You want to blame Dems for Trump voter's ignorance for voting for Trump? I don't think that is fair. That would be like blaming a girl for being raped because she wore a short skirt.
Hell, I'd bet a pretty large chunk of this country couldn't tell you how our government works, or about any of the top 25 political stories happening at any given time. They can tell you who won on "Dancing With the Stars", or who the Kardashian girls are currently banging, but that's it.

A lot of the people who voted for Trump did so because of the price of eggs or some other small and specific reason. But they also didn't vote for the Dems because it's just not an attractive party, and the Dems themselves are admitting it now. A 27% approval rating means that there are many DEMS who disapprove.
 
Do you not understand this? ICE are rounding up people 'who look like a gang member'

Then don't look like a gang member ...

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What was EVIL was the blatant disregard for our borders and letting in MILLIONS of ILLEGAL ALIENS. Setting up circumstances than enabled HUMAN TRAFFICING and TONS OF DRUGS into our country.
The demented LEFT refuses to acknowledge these realities and instead choose to stomp their feet a cry over the removal of VIOLENT CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Keep it up, dunbasses, all the way to the midterms.....:eusa_whistle:
If we don't PUNISH Democrats severely for what they did mark my words another 15 million will be herded in. Democrats can't get Americans to vote for them so they are trying to overwhelm us with 50 million illegals and FORCE an amnesty. Then Democrats will BUY the illegals with government handouts, paid for by us, and turn them into shill Dem voters to cancel out the votes of Americans. The biggest Dem election RIGGING scheme ever.
 
Read the f**king constitution, it applies to EVERYONE. illegals and green card holders may not enjoy all 10 in the BoR, but they get some of them, the big one being 'due process', and it's just enough to prevent our nation from becoming a dictatorship.

I have read it. So this is easy. Stand a judge at the plane, render verdicts, ship them out.
 
In the United States, normally unauthorized entry (often referred to as "illegal entry") is generally classified as a misdemeanor under federal law, not a felony. A person who enters or attempts to enter the U.S. without proper authorization can face penalties such as fines or up to six months of imprisonment for a first offense.
Or immediate extradition. If their countries won't take them there's a nice place in El Salvador that will.
 
I have read it. So this is easy. Stand a judge at the plane, render verdicts, ship them out.
The president of the Unite States does not need permission from some hack Dem shill judge to exercise the powers the American people granted him. Puke Dems have way over reached here.

Dems are desperate and have no other cards to play but mark my words this is going to blow up in their face just like the nuclear option did. As someone is fond of saying, their rules, they will hate it.
 
The president of the Unite States does not need permission from some hack Dem shill judge to exercise the powers the American people granted him. Puke Dems have way over reached here.

Dems are desperate and have no other cards to play but mark my words this is going to blow up in their face just like the nuclear option did. As someone is fond of saying, their rules, they will hate it.

A vast problem they have is how much people hate their interpretations of the rules. So they're saying if you come here and stay here ILLEGALLY, you are entitled to all "free" services, including a trial.

That's like me breaking into my hair salon before they're opened and demanding the owner do my hair on the spot even though I don't have an appt. I don't have a right to what is not even available to me.

Common sense.
 
It gets old, the attacks from the right who accuse we Democrats of 'hating America' because we back Boasberg. 'You support terrorists', they keep shouting. The reply is 'no, we support due process'. Without it, we lose our republic, so it is out of LOVE for America that we back the judge, for all he is interested is that those souls get a fair hearing, so that the innocent aren't sent to some prison where their hope of freedom will be lost, probably in a hellish place for a long long time. Consider this story, which emboldens our case for 'due process'.

So it has happened that the Trump administration, that erstwhile bastion of misrule, embarked on a ruthless campaign to uproot hundreds of Venezuelan migrants scattered across this vast land. They did so with the stealth of a jackal, executing deportations without notice or the dignity of due process. These unfortunate souls were dispatched to the unforgiving confines of a prison in El Salvador--a fate as ironic as it is tragic. Now, the curtain is finally lifting on the evidence marshaled against these exiles, and it is nothing short of preposterous.

Take, for instance, the case of Jerce Reyes Barrios, a professional soccer player--yes, a player who fled the suffocating grip of dictator Nicolás Maduro in search of freedom, only to find himself ensnared by the very apparatus designed to protect him. Barrios had settled in the United States, eagerly awaiting an asylum hearing when ICE agents descended upon him like vultures. The accusation? That he was a member of the Tren de Aragua gang, a claim rooted not in hard evidence but in the flimsy fabric of xenophobic hysteria.

What, pray tell, constituted the evidence against Barrios? Two items, both laughable in their absurdity. First, a tattoo on his arm--an innocuous crown perched atop a soccer ball, allegedly emblematic of gang affiliation. The truth, as his attorney Linette Tobin clarifies, is that this tattoo is a tribute to the Real Madrid soccer team, a fact as lost on the powers that be as a whisper in a tempest. Secondly, there exists a photograph in which Barrios is gesturing with both hands--a gesture misconstrued by the ever-suspicious agents as a sign of gang allegiance. Yet, in the world of American Sign Language, this very gesture signifies “I love you,” or is often embraced as a symbol of rock 'n' roll.

Such grotesque misinterpretations seem to be a recurrent theme among those caught in this legislative nightmare. Consider another migrant, referred to as E.V., whose tattoos depict anime, flowers, and animals, yet were grotesquely rebranded as indicators of gang ties. According to his attorney, the crown adorning his skin is not a badge of criminality but a heartfelt homage to his late grandmother.

The Kafkaesque nature of this ordeal escalates as we delve into the tales of others similarly victimized. One, known as J.A.B.V., bore tattoos of a rose, a clock, and his son’s name--all benign symbols that ICE agents twisted into evidence of criminal affiliation. Despite having lived without a criminal record, he was nevertheless shipped away on the flimsiest of charges. L.G. endured a similar fate, his tattoos--one a rosary, another his partner’s name--branded as marks of gang loyalty. The absurdity reaches new heights with Anyelo Jose Sarabia, who was accused based on a tattoo of a Bible verse and a rose adorned with petals of money.

One cannot help but feel a twinge of irony: many of these individuals sought refuge from Tren de Aragua, only to be demonized as members of that very gang. A particularly poignant case involves an unnamed migrant who had applied for asylum, fleeing from the very harm he now faces, yet was unceremoniously deported while living in a New York homeless shelter with his family.

The administration seems to operate under a perverse presumption that any Venezuelan migrant bearing tattoos must be, by default, a member of Tren de Aragua, guilty until proven innocent--a condition that becomes impossible in the absence of due process. Trump’s invocation of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, under the ludicrous belief it permits the expulsion of noncitizens without judicial oversight, exposes a shocking disdain for constitutional principles. The Department of Justice, ever the willing accomplice, hastens to bypass the courts, claiming that Trump’s decisions exist in a realm beyond judicial scrutiny.

This is not the first time such absurdity has reared its head. During Trump’s initial tenure, ICE made a habit of accusing noncitizens of gang membership based on little more than inked skin. A federal judge once accused ICE agents of perjury regarding the tattoos of a DACA recipient, ultimately liberating him from unlawful detention. The lesson learned, it seems, is that when afforded the privilege of due process, these victims can challenge the flimsy fabrications that the government spins around them. In response, the authorities have concocted new legal theories, intent on preventing judicial review of their actions.

The question remains: did ICE specifically target these men based on their tattoos, or were they rounded up first, with excuses fabricated later? These details warrant scrutiny, and soon the victims’ lawyers will be entitled to interrogate the architects of this dystopian scheme. What is essential now is that judges have the opportunity to sift through the so-called evidence, allowing the scales of justice to balance before this grotesque theater evolves into a full-scale assault on the constitutional rights of all immigrants.

As we observe this unfolding drama, one cannot help but wonder where the limits of absurdity lie in this creeping authoritarianism. In the grand tapestry of American governance, this chapter stands as a cautionary tale of a nation grappling with its conscience amid a cacophony of injustice. The time has come to demand accountability, lest we descend further into a quagmire of Trumpian madness and, yes, I'll say it, it needs to be said, it needs to be shouted on rooftops across America, TYRANNY.

I've been shouting a simple message since I joined this forum short while ago, it's called 'due process'. Some said the 'gang members' got DP, but, alas, I wouldn't trust ICE nor Trump to uphold 'due process', when Trump as literally defecated all over it, for some time, now.

As the delegates finalized the U.S. Constitution, Franklin, who was 81 years old at the time, exited the hall. According to historical accounts, a woman--often identified as Elizabeth Willing Powel, a well-known Philadelphia socialite and wife of Samuel Powel--approached Franklin and asked:

"Well, Doctor, what have we got? A republic or a monarchy?"

Franklin responded: "A republic, if you can keep it."

IF WE CAN KEEP IT.

I'd like to know who on this forum understands that, without upholding the core principle of due process, we won't 'keep it', it will be lost, we will become a republic of the banana variety? Please stand up a

Oh, I suppose I could holler 'I told you so', as, it seems, my chicken little predictions are coming to pass, and, are neither chicken, nor little. So......

What will keep our republic--our democracy--from falling apart? Pray for the following:
  1. A balance of power among co-equal branches of government.
    We've lost Congress--too many members have donned kneepads for Trump--leaving us to rely almost entirely on the judiciary to hold the line.
  2. A vigorous, independent press.
    The free press is not the enemy of the people--it’s the watchdog that keeps power in check and truth in circulation. It's the one institution that stands between tyranny and you, the citizen, it's the first amendment, and it's the first for a reason, where the second is important, but nothing protects us from tyranny more than a vigorous & free press. Note that I didn't say 'honest' or 'unbiased' because of the three, 'honest, 'bias', and 'vigorous' only the latter is not subject (as much) to interpretation.
  3. A military that honors its oath.
    When they swear to defend the Constitution, it’s not just words. It’s a commitment to the rule of law, not to any one man or party.
  4. A judiciary that defends the Constitution and the law.
    Judges who stand firm, even under pressure from a hostile executive branch, are the last bulwark of democracy. They must be willing to sacrifice popularity, power, or position in defense of constitutional principle.
  5. We, the people.
    A republic doesn’t sustain itself. It lives or dies by the engagement, courage, and conscience of its citizens. If we stay silent while democracy is dismantled, we become accomplices. But if we vote, speak out, protest, organize, and refuse to surrender truth to propaganda--we become the immune system of the republic. No constitution, no court, no press can save democracy if the people don’t care to.
We’re Finally Seeing the “Evidence” Against the Migrants Deported by Trump. It’s Unbelievable.


After the Trump administration rounded up hundreds of Venezuelan migrants around the country—without notice or court hearings—and sent them off to a prison in El Salvador, we’re finally getting details on who was deported and why. And the more we learn, the more obvious it becomes why the government is so eager to expel these individuals without any semblance of due process. It claims that these men are terrorists by virtue of their alleged membership in the Tren de Aragua gang—but evidence of this affiliation is weak to the point of nonexistence.

Consider Jerce Reyes Barrios, one victim of the deportations: a professional soccer player who had fled Venezuela after protesting against dictator Nicolás Maduro and was living peacefully in the U.S. until the government snatched him up and deported him to El Salvador. Linette Tobin, Barrios’ attorney, submitted a declaration in federal court that detailed the disturbing reasons why her client was targeted by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. After entering the U.S. last year, Barrios was scheduled to have an asylum hearing in April. But on Saturday, he was arrested and held at a San Diego detention facility after ICE agents accused him of being a member of Tren de Aragua, the Venezuelan gang that President Donald Trump has been fixated on to fulfill his mass-deportation plan.

Your message is lost in a pile of loquacious and politicized flotsam. Maduro was the one who refused to take the Venezuelans back so since there was a flight going to El Salvador already it just made sense. Now suddenly Maduro is willing to take them back.... He's dealing directly with the El Salvador prison. Happy day! Venezuelans who sneak in here without permission will be back home in Venezuela. Problem solved.
 
A vast problem they have is how much people hate their interpretations of the rules. So they're saying if you come here and stay here ILLEGALLY, you are entitled to all "free" services, including a trial.

That's like me breaking into my hair salon before they're opened and demanding the owner do my hair on the spot even though I don't have an appt. I don't have a right to what is not even available to me.

Common sense.
Cross the border illegally, everything after is NULL and VOID imo. Their only rights are to be arrested and deported and BANNED from ever returning as punishment.
 
Cross the border illegally, everything after is NULL and VOID imo. Their only rights are to be arrested and deported and BANNED from ever returning as punishment.

Again, common sense.

Someone breaks into your house because they need your medicine. If they steal it, it's a crime, no matter what. The Left writes bleeding heart stories about how they couldn't get medicine, etc. And it is very sad. But the solution is not to commit a crime to get it.
 
Pretty standard boilerplate liberal menu: cherry pick one illegal who fits the poster boy image and that somehow balances out the other 40 million stories, run it on all channels, just focus on this one. Cute, and it has worked in the past, just let teenage street thugs run loose because of this one here that our news feed found. Sweet.
Take, for instance, the case of Jerce Reyes Barrios
 
Well, then, write your legislature and Congress critters.

Bitching to us does nothing for you.
A good percentage of Prog voters do not even know agendas that Prog politicians and their unelected minions push and enact. Inner city Prog voters are shocked when they find out some of the transexual and other things related in children's public schools and women's sports. They do not pay attention. So, they vote for the person who they think is for them and that elected person votes for these things that they personally abhor. So, I say to you. The Republican voters and the voters that are independents and Progs who voted for Trump will tell you if they had enough. And it will be a fair amount of time before that occurs. That is how much your craziness has screwed us up. And the good things you have done within that will not e affected much. Perhaps not perfect for your tastes, however it will still exist.
 
Again, common sense.

Someone breaks into your house because they need your medicine. If they steal it, it's a crime, no matter what. The Left writes bleeding heart stories about how they couldn't get medicine, etc. And it is very sad. But the solution is not to commit a crime to get it.
IMO their anchor babies are also ILLEGALS. You can't birth a U.S. citizen when you intentionally broke our laws and snuck into our country illegally.

In related news this Dem shill judge is having an absolute cow over Trumps refusal to comply with any of his orders it's hilarious.
 
ICE are rounding up people 'who look like a gang member', misinterpreting tattoos,


So you're wanting us to believe this man , who came from a country branded by Tren de Aragua with a tat that means they own you and your family was really supporting his fav soccer team?

seriously........ :rolleyes: ~S~
 
If I ever commit a crime, I'll get out of jail free, if only my family members say that I was a good guy?
 

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