Well, this is awkward...

[Missourian]

In a legal way.

This is the legal way.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Normal people can tell the difference.

Pro criminal democrats don't care.

 

[pknopp]

The 2013 immigration reform bill should have passed. We’d be way better off.

It would have passed if Obama hadn't blown large majorities.

 

[Missourian]

Biden let 12 million walk right in. Your assertion doesn't match the dems actions.

 

[pknopp]

You say this until your Progs come to power again. Your revenge is uneven. Yet it is still comeuppance to people who have screwed over others. Very few will admit it as to protect their pensions and benefits for their abuses to others when younger.

You vote Democrat, not me.

 

[Papageorgio]

Dems have long been in favor of deportation of illegal immigrants who have committed crimes other than being here illegally, which is what half of those clips indicate.

They’ve also been in favor of finding a path to citizenship for those who have been here for years, living and working peacefully.

Trump doesn’t see a distinction between those groups.

I don’t see a distinction myself, they came into our country illegally, by doing that, they show they don’t respect our laws, they don’t respect the people that came here legally, they don’t respect our country. I am not sure why we want to keep people in our country that don’t respect us at all. Even when they protest they are waving foreign flags, if you want to be an American citizen then respect America and do it the right way.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Obama didnt do squat which in large is why we are where we are today.

He did plenty by adding trillions to the debt through never ending spending and never ending wars and is a huge reason why we are where we are today. Him and shrub.

 

[Marener]

Pro criminal democrats don't care.

I don’t see a distinction myself, they came into our country illegally, by doing that, they show they don’t respect our laws, they don’t respect the people that came here legally, they don’t respect our country. I am not sure why we want to keep people in our country that don’t respect us at all. Even when they protest they are waving foreign flags, if you want to be an American citizen then respect America and do it the right way.

Normal people can tell the difference between cartel members and people looking to work and provide better lives for their kids.

Joe Rogan gets it. I think most Americans do. It’s just the extremists that don’t.

Joe Rogan tears into Trump's immigration crackdown: 'horrific'

"Everybody who has a heart sees that and goes, ‘That can’t be right,'" Rogan said of Trump's immigration policy.

www.newsweek.com

 

[TNHarley]

It would have passed if Obama hadn't blown large majorities.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Normal people can tell the difference between cartel members and people looking to work and provide better lives for their kids.

Joe Rogan gets it. I think most Americans do. It’s just the extremists that don’t.

Joe Rogan tears into Trump's immigration crackdown: 'horrific'

"Everybody who has a heart sees that and goes, ‘That can’t be right,'" Rogan said of Trump's immigration policy.

www.newsweek.com

There are active cartel members and the community that hides them. Also myriad criminals that aren't cartel members. Deport them all. Every one.

 

[Papageorgio]

Normal people can tell the difference between cartel members and people looking to work and provide better lives for their kids.

Joe Rogan gets it. I think most Americans do. It’s just the extremists that don’t.

Joe Rogan tears into Trump's immigration crackdown: 'horrific'

"Everybody who has a heart sees that and goes, ‘That can’t be right,'" Rogan said of Trump's immigration policy.

www.newsweek.com

You did not address anything I posted.

I didn’t say there wasn’t a difference, I am saying is that neither group respects our country or our laws and you posted a big nothing except repeating what you believe. I believe that if we don’t protect our borders and if we don’t insist that people come here legally and respect our laws then we have failed to protect our citizens, nothing extreme in my belief.

 

[pknopp]

He did plenty by adding trillions to the debt through never ending spending and never ending wars and is a huge reason why we are where we are today. Him and shrub.

He did plenty by adding trillions to the debt through never ending spending and never ending wars and is a huge reason why we are where we are today. Him and shrub.

That never stopped after he left either.

 

[Marener]

You did not address anything I posted.

I didn’t say there wasn’t a difference, I am saying is that neither group respects our country or our laws and you posted a big nothing except repeating what you believe. I believe that if we don’t protect our borders and if we don’t insist that people come here legally and respect our laws then we have failed to protect our citizens, nothing extreme in my belief.

They respect our laws enough to avoid committing any other crime other than illegally being in the country.

They’re not harming anyone, if anything they’re helping their communities.

The rational punishment for a victimless crime is a fine, not deportation.

 

[pknopp]

They respect our laws enough to avoid committing any other crime other than illegally being in the country.

They’re not harming anyone, if anything they’re helping their communities.

The rational punishment for a victimless crime is a fine, not deportation.

Being here illegally is a misdemeanor. Hiring an illegal isa felony.

Seems most are willing to overlook the felony.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Dems have long been in favor of deportation of illegal immigrants who have committed crimes other than being here illegally, which is what half of those clips indicate.

Yeah, and democrats are taking illegals who have committed crimes and releasing then back onto the street.

But even obama said that illegals have broken our immigration laws and should be deported. He didnt make any claims about asylum seekers. He was very clear.

They’ve also been in favor of finding a path to citizenship for those who have been here for years, living and working peacefully.

Trump doesn’t see a distinction between those groups.

Yeah but the difference is, many of those who have been living and working here fkr years, peacefully, were newly arrived illegals just a few years ago, and democrats fought to make sure they stayed here, just like the illegals who are recently arrived now, and the democrats are fighting to keep here, will be the illegals "who have been working here, peacefully for years" in a few years from now.

The cycle never ends. Illegals arrive, then democrats fight to keep them in the country and tie up the process with red tape or they have courts cases 3 years from the date they got here, or, they never show up for their court cases, and then the dems say "well, they've been here working for years" so they need a path to citizenship.

That tactic means the flow of illegals will never end. At that point, why even have immigration laws, or even a border?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Being here illegally is a misdemeanor. Hiring an illegal isa felony.

Seems most are willing to overlook the felony.

Who likes to overlook the felony? Dems and Rs?

 

[pknopp]

Who likes to overlook the felony? Dems and Rs?

Most people.

 

[ThisIsMe]

In a legal way.

What is more legal than deporting people who came here illegally?

The claim for asylum is not valid, most of these people are not coming because they fear government persecution, they come for economic reasons, and many of them dont intend on staying here and becoming Americans, they just want to work here so they can send money home to their families, and I dont have a problem with people wanting to support their families, but it shows that many dont really care about being here and assimilating into our country, they just want to work a few years and send their wages home, and then go home themselves.

When I lived in corpus christi, I had Hispanic friends telling me that people from Mexico came here to work on a rotation. They would show up for 2 to 3 years, work, and then go home. Its called circular migration.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Most people.

Ross perot wanted about NAFTA and the giant sucking sound.

 

[Marener]

Yeah, and democrats are taking illegals who have committed crimes and releasing then back onto the street.

But even obama said that illegals have broken our immigration laws and should be deported. He didnt make any claims about asylum seekers. He was very clear.




Yeah but the difference is, many of those who have been living and working here fkr years, peacefully, were newly arrived illegals just a few years ago, and democrats fought to make sure they stayed here, just like the illegals who are recently arrived now, and the democrats are fighting to keep here, will be the illegals "who have been working here, peacefully for years" in a few years from now.

The cycle never ends. Illegals arrive, then democrats fight to keep them in the country and tie up the process with red tape or they have courts cases 3 years from the date they got here, or, they never show up for their court cases, and then the dems say "well, they've been here working for years" so they need a path to citizenship.

That tactic means the flow of illegals will never end. At that point, why even have immigration laws, or even a border?

Immigration reform bills have always included enhanced border security which in the past 20 years has gotten very tight. Obama achieved very high deportation numbers simply because they deported almost everyone who crossed. The reform bill in 2013 included a tripling of border patrol agents.

So I don’t accept your characterization that it’s a never ending cycle.