Well crap, what's a globalal warmer to do...

[The Irish Ram]

If you believe NASA, you had better buy some extra mittens:

Given that the sun is the main driver of all weather and climate, the sinister-sounding “blankness” to which Dorian refers has some experts predicting a “Maunder Minimum” phase similar to one which began in 1645 and which is referred to as the “Little Ice Age.”

The Maunder Minimum, named after solar astronomer Edward Maunder, lasted for a brutal 70 years and conditions were so cold, the Thames froze over.

A slightly less intense ice age-like period called the Dalton Minimum — after British meteorologist John Dalton — arrived decades later and lasted from about 1790 to 1830.

“If history is any guide, it is safe to say that weak solar activity for a prolonged period of time can have a cooling impact on global temperatures in the troposphere which is the bottom most layer of Earth’s atmosphere — and where we all live,” Dorian says.

Dorian’s findings back research by professor Valentina Zharkova of Northumbria University, who warned that a predicted sharp decline in solar activity between 2020 and 2050 was a sign that another ice age was coming.

“I am absolutely confident in our research,” Zharkova said.

This explains it all:
Why the sun going blank means a ‘Game of Thrones’-like winter is coming

 

[FJO]

If you believe NASA, you had better buy some extra mittens:

Given that the sun is the main driver of all weather and climate, the sinister-sounding “blankness” to which Dorian refers has some experts predicting a “Maunder Minimum” phase similar to one which began in 1645 and which is referred to as the “Little Ice Age.”

The Maunder Minimum, named after solar astronomer Edward Maunder, lasted for a brutal 70 years and conditions were so cold, the Thames froze over.

A slightly less intense ice age-like period called the Dalton Minimum — after British meteorologist John Dalton — arrived decades later and lasted from about 1790 to 1830.

“If history is any guide, it is safe to say that weak solar activity for a prolonged period of time can have a cooling impact on global temperatures in the troposphere which is the bottom most layer of Earth’s atmosphere — and where we all live,” Dorian says.

Dorian’s findings back research by professor Valentina Zharkova of Northumbria University, who warned that a predicted sharp decline in solar activity between 2020 and 2050 was a sign that another ice age was coming.

“I am absolutely confident in our research,” Zharkova said.

This explains it all:
Why the sun going blank means a ‘Game of Thrones’-like winter is coming

I thought the "settled science" was that the Earth was warming and eating beef and stopping to drive my minivan can save the world from total destruction.

 

[RodISHI]

If you believe NASA, you had better buy some extra mittens:

Given that the sun is the main driver of all weather and climate, the sinister-sounding “blankness” to which Dorian refers has some experts predicting a “Maunder Minimum” phase similar to one which began in 1645 and which is referred to as the “Little Ice Age.”

The Maunder Minimum, named after solar astronomer Edward Maunder, lasted for a brutal 70 years and conditions were so cold, the Thames froze over.

A slightly less intense ice age-like period called the Dalton Minimum — after British meteorologist John Dalton — arrived decades later and lasted from about 1790 to 1830.

“If history is any guide, it is safe to say that weak solar activity for a prolonged period of time can have a cooling impact on global temperatures in the troposphere which is the bottom most layer of Earth’s atmosphere — and where we all live,” Dorian says.

Dorian’s findings back research by professor Valentina Zharkova of Northumbria University, who warned that a predicted sharp decline in solar activity between 2020 and 2050 was a sign that another ice age was coming.

“I am absolutely confident in our research,” Zharkova said.

This explains it all:
Why the sun going blank means a ‘Game of Thrones’-like winter is coming

I thought the "settled science" was that the Earth was warming and eating beef and stopping to drive my minivan can save the world from total destruction.

Raise more meat, make more poo as you may need the methane gas for heat according to that report.

 

[The Irish Ram]

And tell our government they can stop giving our money away to fight global warming.....

 

[Dekster]

If you believe NASA, you had better buy some extra mittens:

Given that the sun is the main driver of all weather and climate, the sinister-sounding “blankness” to which Dorian refers has some experts predicting a “Maunder Minimum” phase similar to one which began in 1645 and which is referred to as the “Little Ice Age.”

The Maunder Minimum, named after solar astronomer Edward Maunder, lasted for a brutal 70 years and conditions were so cold, the Thames froze over.

A slightly less intense ice age-like period called the Dalton Minimum — after British meteorologist John Dalton — arrived decades later and lasted from about 1790 to 1830.

“If history is any guide, it is safe to say that weak solar activity for a prolonged period of time can have a cooling impact on global temperatures in the troposphere which is the bottom most layer of Earth’s atmosphere — and where we all live,” Dorian says.

Dorian’s findings back research by professor Valentina Zharkova of Northumbria University, who warned that a predicted sharp decline in solar activity between 2020 and 2050 was a sign that another ice age was coming.

“I am absolutely confident in our research,” Zharkova said.

This explains it all:
Why the sun going blank means a ‘Game of Thrones’-like winter is coming

I thought the "settled science" was that the Earth was warming and eating beef and stopping to drive my minivan can save the world from total destruction.

Raise more meat, make more poo as you may need the methane gas for heat according to that report.

Stockpile twinkies and McDonald's cheeseburgers. Neither rots.

 

[RodISHI]

If you believe NASA, you had better buy some extra mittens:

Given that the sun is the main driver of all weather and climate, the sinister-sounding “blankness” to which Dorian refers has some experts predicting a “Maunder Minimum” phase similar to one which began in 1645 and which is referred to as the “Little Ice Age.”

The Maunder Minimum, named after solar astronomer Edward Maunder, lasted for a brutal 70 years and conditions were so cold, the Thames froze over.

A slightly less intense ice age-like period called the Dalton Minimum — after British meteorologist John Dalton — arrived decades later and lasted from about 1790 to 1830.

“If history is any guide, it is safe to say that weak solar activity for a prolonged period of time can have a cooling impact on global temperatures in the troposphere which is the bottom most layer of Earth’s atmosphere — and where we all live,” Dorian says.

Dorian’s findings back research by professor Valentina Zharkova of Northumbria University, who warned that a predicted sharp decline in solar activity between 2020 and 2050 was a sign that another ice age was coming.

“I am absolutely confident in our research,” Zharkova said.

This explains it all:
Why the sun going blank means a ‘Game of Thrones’-like winter is coming

I thought the "settled science" was that the Earth was warming and eating beef and stopping to drive my minivan can save the world from total destruction.

Raise more meat, make more poo as you may need the methane gas for heat according to that report.

Stockpile twinkies and McDonald's cheeseburgers. Neither rots.

Nasty, I'll stick with rice, beans, whole wheat, dried greens from my yard and canned goods in jars.

 

[Old Rocks]

The estimated increase in radiative forcing due to the sun since 1750 is only 0.05 W/m2 compared to a total increase that is mainly caused by greenhouse gases of 2.29 W/m2. This almost negligible influence is even smaller than the estimation in the fourth assessment report which was 0.12 W/m2 on a total of 1.66 W/m2. The reduction since AR4 has partly to do with the decreased solar activity in the current solar cycle 24.

What will happen during a new Maunder Minimum? « Climate Dialogue

Before flapping ones yap about a subject that you know nothing about, you really should do basic research. Even were we to go into a full Maunder Minimum, it would make little difference in a rapidly warming world.

 

[FJO]

The newest "settled science" is that ALL the planets in the Solar System are Warming.

Look it up, on Google.

Those bastards on Jupiter and Pluto better slow down in their disrespecting their home and stop using their SUV's.

 

[defcon4]

I better start trapping squirrels to make a fur coat....****, just when I thought those cute little tree rats were not a nuisance anymore....

 

[flacaltenn]

The estimated increase in radiative forcing due to the sun since 1750 is only 0.05 W/m2 compared to a total increase that is mainly caused by greenhouse gases of 2.29 W/m2. This almost negligible influence is even smaller than the estimation in the fourth assessment report which was 0.12 W/m2 on a total of 1.66 W/m2. The reduction since AR4 has partly to do with the decreased solar activity in the current solar cycle 24.

What will happen during a new Maunder Minimum? « Climate Dialogue

Before flapping ones yap about a subject that you know nothing about, you really should do basic research. Even were we to go into a full Maunder Minimum, it would make little difference in a rapidly warming world.

That's complete bullshit. Produced by defining a completely new and ambiguous metric for solar output. The ACTUAL change in Total Solar Irradiance since the Maunder Min ended is well above 1W/m2.. And it "paused" at that relative maximum about the 1960s. IPCC invented crap definitions to "rule out" solar forcings.

Being a large complex system with storage and delays, a forcing function that rises over a couple hundred years and then STAYS at a relative maximum -- can still produce INCREASING temperatures. Until it doesn't anymore.. Which MIGHT be over the next 30 or 50 years.

 

[Old Rocks]

The newest "settled science" is that ALL the planets in the Solar System are Warming.

Look it up, on Google.

Those bastards on Jupiter and Pluto better slow down in their disrespecting their home and stop using their SUV's.

This is a round-up of the planets said by sceptics to be experiencing climate change:

• Mars: the notion that Mars is warming came from an unfortunate conflation of weather and climate. Based on two pictures taken 22 years apart, assumptions were made that have not proved to be reliable. There is currently no evidence to support claims that Mars is warming at all. More on Mars...
  
• Jupiter: the notion that Jupiter is warming is actually based on predictions, since no warming has actually been observed. Climate models predict temperature increases along the equator and cooling at the poles. It is believed these changes will be catalysed by storms that merge into one super-storm, inhibiting the planet’s ability to mix heat. Sceptical arguments have ignored the fact this is not a phenomenon we have observed, and that the modelled forcing is storm and dust movements, not changes in solar radiation.
• Neptune: observations of changes in luminosity on the surface of both Neptune and its largest moon, Triton, have been taken to indicate warming caused by increasedsolar activity. In fact, the brightening is due to the planet’s seasons changing, but very slowly. Summer is coming to Neptune’s southern hemisphere, bringing more sunlight, as it does every 164 years.
• Pluto: the warming exhibited by Pluto is not really understood. Pluto’s seasons are the least understood of all: its existence has only been known for a third of its 248 -year orbit, and it has never been visited by a space probe. The ‘evidence’ for climatechange consists of just two observations made in 1988 and 2002. That’s equivalent to observing the Earth’s weather for just three weeks out of the year. Various theories suggest its highly elliptical orbit may play a part, as could the large angle of its rotational axis. One recent paper suggests the length of Pluto’s orbit is a key factor, as with Neptune. Sunlight at Pluto is 900 times weaker than it is at the Earth.

What climate change is happening to other planets in the solar system

Again basic research before flap yapping saves embarrassment.

 

[The Irish Ram]

If you believe NASA, you had better buy some extra mittens:

Given that the sun is the main driver of all weather and climate, the sinister-sounding “blankness” to which Dorian refers has some experts predicting a “Maunder Minimum” phase similar to one which began in 1645 and which is referred to as the “Little Ice Age.”

The Maunder Minimum, named after solar astronomer Edward Maunder, lasted for a brutal 70 years and conditions were so cold, the Thames froze over.

A slightly less intense ice age-like period called the Dalton Minimum — after British meteorologist John Dalton — arrived decades later and lasted from about 1790 to 1830.

“If history is any guide, it is safe to say that weak solar activity for a prolonged period of time can have a cooling impact on global temperatures in the troposphere which is the bottom most layer of Earth’s atmosphere — and where we all live,” Dorian says.

Dorian’s findings back research by professor Valentina Zharkova of Northumbria University, who warned that a predicted sharp decline in solar activity between 2020 and 2050 was a sign that another ice age was coming.

“I am absolutely confident in our research,” Zharkova said.

This explains it all:
Why the sun going blank means a ‘Game of Thrones’-like winter is coming

I thought the "settled science" was that the Earth was warming and eating beef and stopping to drive my minivan can save the world from total destruction.

Go figure right? It seems the sun decides our temperatures. Not farting cows... If someone would have just explained solar max to our government, think of the billions we could have saved.

 

[The Irish Ram]

The estimated increase in radiative forcing due to the sun since 1750 is only 0.05 W/m2 compared to a total increase that is mainly caused by greenhouse gases of 2.29 W/m2. This almost negligible influence is even smaller than the estimation in the fourth assessment report which was 0.12 W/m2 on a total of 1.66 W/m2. The reduction since AR4 has partly to do with the decreased solar activity in the current solar cycle 24.

What will happen during a new Maunder Minimum? « Climate Dialogue

Before flapping ones yap about a subject that you know nothing about, you really should do basic research. Even were we to go into a full Maunder Minimum, it would make little difference in a rapidly warming world.

That's complete bullshit. Produced by defining a completely new and ambiguous metric for solar output. The ACTUAL change in Total Solar Irradiance since the Maunder Min ended is well above 1W/m2.. And it "paused" at that relative maximum about the 1960s. IPCC invented crap definitions to "rule out" solar forcings.

Being a large complex system with storage and delays, a forcing function that rises over a couple hundred years and then STAYS at a relative maximum -- can still produce INCREASING temperatures. Until it doesn't anymore.. Which MIGHT be over the next 30 or 50 years.

The maximum is already beginning to wane. The flares are diminishing in intensity and frequency. Looks like we're going to make it.

 

[Old Rocks]

The estimated increase in radiative forcing due to the sun since 1750 is only 0.05 W/m2 compared to a total increase that is mainly caused by greenhouse gases of 2.29 W/m2. This almost negligible influence is even smaller than the estimation in the fourth assessment report which was 0.12 W/m2 on a total of 1.66 W/m2. The reduction since AR4 has partly to do with the decreased solar activity in the current solar cycle 24.

What will happen during a new Maunder Minimum? « Climate Dialogue

Before flapping ones yap about a subject that you know nothing about, you really should do basic research. Even were we to go into a full Maunder Minimum, it would make little difference in a rapidly warming world.

That's complete bullshit. Produced by defining a completely new and ambiguous metric for solar output. The ACTUAL change in Total Solar Irradiance since the Maunder Min ended is well above 1W/m2.. And it "paused" at that relative maximum about the 1960s. IPCC invented crap definitions to "rule out" solar forcings.

Being a large complex system with storage and delays, a forcing function that rises over a couple hundred years and then STAYS at a relative maximum -- can still produce INCREASING temperatures. Until it doesn't anymore.. Which MIGHT be over the next 30 or 50 years.

TSI Reconstructions
Before 1978 there are no direct measurements and scientists have to rely on proxies for solar activity. Ultimately reconstructions of the TSI hundreds of years back in time always have to rely on either the sunspot record or on cosmogenic isotopes like Beryllium-10 and Carbon-14.[iv] Chapter 5 of the AR5 report presents the following figure with TSI reconstructions for the last millennium:

Figure 5: changes in TSI during the last millennium. Replication of figure 5.1b in AR5. The blue reconstruction is one published by Lean et al. 1995.[v] Since the 90-ies reconstructions of the TSI have become considerably flatter suggesting that the influence of the sun through time is relatively small. See AR5 for all the references.

Hoyt and Schatten (1994)[vi], based on the so-called group sunspot number, estimated the increase in TSI since the Maunder Minimum to be around 4 W/m2 which translates into an increase in radiative forcing of around 0.7 W/m2,[vii] much larger than the increase in AR5. Lean et al 1995 (the blue curve in figure 5 above) also suggests a difference in TSI of several W/m2 since 1700. However more recent TSI reconstructions found a much smaller difference in TSI between the Maunder Minimum and the present (see figure 5).

Shapiro (2011)[viii] using a new approach found a much larger difference in TSI between the Maunder Minimum and present, of about 6 W/m2. They assume that the minimum state of the quiet sun (say during a Maunder Minimum) corresponds to the observed quietest area on the present sun.

What will happen during a new Maunder Minimum? « Climate Dialogue

Yes, there are some estimates of the difference that are larger. The majority are not. We shall see shortly which is correct. At present, the TSI is smaller, and the temperatures are still going up.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The newest "settled science" is that ALL the planets in the Solar System are Warming.

Look it up, on Google.

Those bastards on Jupiter and Pluto better slow down in their disrespecting their home and stop using their SUV's.

This is a round-up of the planets said by sceptics to be experiencing climate change:

• Mars: the notion that Mars is warming came from an unfortunate conflation of weather and climate. Based on two pictures taken 22 years apart, assumptions were made that have not proved to be reliable. There is currently no evidence to support claims that Mars is warming at all. More on Mars...
  
• Jupiter: the notion that Jupiter is warming is actually based on predictions, since no warming has actually been observed. Climate models predict temperature increases along the equator and cooling at the poles. It is believed these changes will be catalysed by storms that merge into one super-storm, inhibiting the planet’s ability to mix heat. Sceptical arguments have ignored the fact this is not a phenomenon we have observed, and that the modelled forcing is storm and dust movements, not changes in solar radiation.
• Neptune: observations of changes in luminosity on the surface of both Neptune and its largest moon, Triton, have been taken to indicate warming caused by increasedsolar activity. In fact, the brightening is due to the planet’s seasons changing, but very slowly. Summer is coming to Neptune’s southern hemisphere, bringing more sunlight, as it does every 164 years.
• Pluto: the warming exhibited by Pluto is not really understood. Pluto’s seasons are the least understood of all: its existence has only been known for a third of its 248 -year orbit, and it has never been visited by a space probe. The ‘evidence’ for climatechange consists of just two observations made in 1988 and 2002. That’s equivalent to observing the Earth’s weather for just three weeks out of the year. Various theories suggest its highly elliptical orbit may play a part, as could the large angle of its rotational axis. One recent paper suggests the length of Pluto’s orbit is a key factor, as with Neptune. Sunlight at Pluto is 900 times weaker than it is at the Earth.

What climate change is happening to other planets in the solar system

Again basic research before flap yapping saves embarrassment.

Bwahahahaha skeptical science blog?

Damn old rocks at least post from a realible unbiased source

 

[Old Rocks]

There are two things that determine the temperature of the the surface of the Earth. The amount of energy the Earth receives from the sun, and the amount of energy the Earth retains. Retention is determined by the amount of GHGs in the atmosphere of the Earth. We have increased the amount of CO2, the prime GHG, by over 40%, 280 ppm to over 400+ ppm. We have increased the second most important GHG, CH4, from about 700 to 800 ppb to over 1800 ppb. You simply cannot do that and not have a resultant warming. Consider that half of North America is covered with ice at 180 ppm of CO2, and is clear of ice except for alpine glaciers, at 280 ppm. What will the affect of way more than 400 ppm be by 2100?

 

[Wyatt earp]

The newest "settled science" is that ALL the planets in the Solar System are Warming.

Look it up, on Google.

Those bastards on Jupiter and Pluto better slow down in their disrespecting their home and stop using their SUV's.

This is a round-up of the planets said by sceptics to be experiencing climate change:

• Mars: the notion that Mars is warming came from an unfortunate conflation of weather and climate. Based on two pictures taken 22 years apart, assumptions were made that have not proved to be reliable. There is currently no evidence to support claims that Mars is warming at all. More on Mars...
  
• Jupiter: the notion that Jupiter is warming is actually based on predictions, since no warming has actually been observed. Climate models predict temperature increases along the equator and cooling at the poles. It is believed these changes will be catalysed by storms that merge into one super-storm, inhibiting the planet’s ability to mix heat. Sceptical arguments have ignored the fact this is not a phenomenon we have observed, and that the modelled forcing is storm and dust movements, not changes in solar radiation.
• Neptune: observations of changes in luminosity on the surface of both Neptune and its largest moon, Triton, have been taken to indicate warming caused by increasedsolar activity. In fact, the brightening is due to the planet’s seasons changing, but very slowly. Summer is coming to Neptune’s southern hemisphere, bringing more sunlight, as it does every 164 years.
• Pluto: the warming exhibited by Pluto is not really understood. Pluto’s seasons are the least understood of all: its existence has only been known for a third of its 248 -year orbit, and it has never been visited by a space probe. The ‘evidence’ for climatechange consists of just two observations made in 1988 and 2002. That’s equivalent to observing the Earth’s weather for just three weeks out of the year. Various theories suggest its highly elliptical orbit may play a part, as could the large angle of its rotational axis. One recent paper suggests the length of Pluto’s orbit is a key factor, as with Neptune. Sunlight at Pluto is 900 times weaker than it is at the Earth.

What climate change is happening to other planets in the solar system

Again basic research before flap yapping saves embarrassment.

If you get to use a blog skeptical science so can I


The Solar System Climate Is Changing, Not Just Earth



NASA – Super Storm on Saturn – science.nasa.gov

“May 19, 2011 – NASA’s Cassini spacecraft and a European Southern Observatory ground-based telescope are tracking the growth of a giant early-spring storm in Saturn’s northern hemisphere so powerful that it stretches around the entire planet. The rare storm has been wreaking havoc for months and shooting plumes of gas high into the planet’s atmosphere.”

NASA – Odyssey Studies Changing Weather And Climate On Mars – mars.jpl.nasa.gov…

“December 8, 2008 – Mars may be going through a period of climate change, new findings from NASA’s Mars Odyssey orbiter suggest. Odyssey has been mapping the distribution of materials on and near Mars’ surface since early 2002, nearly a full annual cycle on Mars. Besides tracking seasonal changes, such as the advance and retreat of polar dry ice, the orbiter is returning evidence useful for learning about longer-term dynamics.”

NASA – Martian Ice Shrinking Dramatically – mars.jpl.nasa.gov…

“September 20, 2005 – New gullies that did not exist in mid-2002 have appeared on a Martian sand dune. That’s just one of the surprising discoveries that have resulted from the extended life of NASA’s Mars Global Surveyor, which this month began its ninth year in orbit around Mars. Boulders tumbling down a Martian slope left tracks that weren’t there two years ago. New impact craters formed since the 1970s suggest changes to age-estimating models. And for three Mars summers in a row, deposits of frozen carbon dioxide near Mars’ south pole have shrunk from the previous year’s size, suggesting a climate change in progress”.

NatGeo – Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming – nationalgeographic.com

“February 28, 2007 – Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet’s recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human-induced—cause, according to one scientist’s controversial theory”

MIT – Pluto is Undergoing Global Warming – web.mit.edu…

“October 9, 2002 – Pluto is undergoing global warming, as evidenced by a three-fold increase in the planet’s atmospheric pressure during the past 14 years, a team of astronomers from Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), Williams College, the University of Hawaii, Lowell Observatory and Cornell University announced in a press conference today at the annual meeting of the American Astronomical Society’s (AAS) Division for Planetary Sciences in Birmingham, AL.

The team, led by James Elliot, professor of planetary astronomy at MIT and director of MIT’s Wallace Observatory, made this finding by watching the dimming of a star when Pluto passed in front of it Aug. 20. The team carried out observations using eight telescopes at Mauna Kea Observatory, Haleakala, Lick Observatory, Lowell Observatory and Palomar Observatory. Data were successfully recorded at all sites.

An earlier attempt to observe an occultation of Pluto on July 19 in Chile was not highly successful. Observations were made from only two sites with small telescopes because the giant telescopes and other small telescopes involved lost out to bad weather or from being in the wrong location that day. These two occultations were the first to be successfully observed for Pluto since 1988.”

 

[Old Rocks]

The newest "settled science" is that ALL the planets in the Solar System are Warming.

Look it up, on Google.

Those bastards on Jupiter and Pluto better slow down in their disrespecting their home and stop using their SUV's.

This is a round-up of the planets said by sceptics to be experiencing climate change:

• Mars: the notion that Mars is warming came from an unfortunate conflation of weather and climate. Based on two pictures taken 22 years apart, assumptions were made that have not proved to be reliable. There is currently no evidence to support claims that Mars is warming at all. More on Mars...
  
• Jupiter: the notion that Jupiter is warming is actually based on predictions, since no warming has actually been observed. Climate models predict temperature increases along the equator and cooling at the poles. It is believed these changes will be catalysed by storms that merge into one super-storm, inhibiting the planet’s ability to mix heat. Sceptical arguments have ignored the fact this is not a phenomenon we have observed, and that the modelled forcing is storm and dust movements, not changes in solar radiation.
• Neptune: observations of changes in luminosity on the surface of both Neptune and its largest moon, Triton, have been taken to indicate warming caused by increasedsolar activity. In fact, the brightening is due to the planet’s seasons changing, but very slowly. Summer is coming to Neptune’s southern hemisphere, bringing more sunlight, as it does every 164 years.
• Pluto: the warming exhibited by Pluto is not really understood. Pluto’s seasons are the least understood of all: its existence has only been known for a third of its 248 -year orbit, and it has never been visited by a space probe. The ‘evidence’ for climatechange consists of just two observations made in 1988 and 2002. That’s equivalent to observing the Earth’s weather for just three weeks out of the year. Various theories suggest its highly elliptical orbit may play a part, as could the large angle of its rotational axis. One recent paper suggests the length of Pluto’s orbit is a key factor, as with Neptune. Sunlight at Pluto is 900 times weaker than it is at the Earth.

What climate change is happening to other planets in the solar system

Again basic research before flap yapping saves embarrassment.

Bwahahahaha skeptical science blog?

Damn old rocks at least post from a realible unbiased source

LOL So you are saying that a sun that is emitting less energy is causing all the planets in the solar system. And you cannot see the contradiction in that statement. LOL

 

[flacaltenn]

The estimated increase in radiative forcing due to the sun since 1750 is only 0.05 W/m2 compared to a total increase that is mainly caused by greenhouse gases of 2.29 W/m2. This almost negligible influence is even smaller than the estimation in the fourth assessment report which was 0.12 W/m2 on a total of 1.66 W/m2. The reduction since AR4 has partly to do with the decreased solar activity in the current solar cycle 24.

What will happen during a new Maunder Minimum? « Climate Dialogue

Before flapping ones yap about a subject that you know nothing about, you really should do basic research. Even were we to go into a full Maunder Minimum, it would make little difference in a rapidly warming world.

That's complete bullshit. Produced by defining a completely new and ambiguous metric for solar output. The ACTUAL change in Total Solar Irradiance since the Maunder Min ended is well above 1W/m2.. And it "paused" at that relative maximum about the 1960s. IPCC invented crap definitions to "rule out" solar forcings.

Being a large complex system with storage and delays, a forcing function that rises over a couple hundred years and then STAYS at a relative maximum -- can still produce INCREASING temperatures. Until it doesn't anymore.. Which MIGHT be over the next 30 or 50 years.

TSI Reconstructions
Before 1978 there are no direct measurements and scientists have to rely on proxies for solar activity. Ultimately reconstructions of the TSI hundreds of years back in time always have to rely on either the sunspot record or on cosmogenic isotopes like Beryllium-10 and Carbon-14.[iv] Chapter 5 of the AR5 report presents the following figure with TSI reconstructions for the last millennium:

Figure 5: changes in TSI during the last millennium. Replication of figure 5.1b in AR5. The blue reconstruction is one published by Lean et al. 1995.[v] Since the 90-ies reconstructions of the TSI have become considerably flatter suggesting that the influence of the sun through time is relatively small. See AR5 for all the references.

Hoyt and Schatten (1994)[vi], based on the so-called group sunspot number, estimated the increase in TSI since the Maunder Minimum to be around 4 W/m2 which translates into an increase in radiative forcing of around 0.7 W/m2,[vii] much larger than the increase in AR5. Lean et al 1995 (the blue curve in figure 5 above) also suggests a difference in TSI of several W/m2 since 1700. However more recent TSI reconstructions found a much smaller difference in TSI between the Maunder Minimum and the present (see figure 5).

Shapiro (2011)[viii] using a new approach found a much larger difference in TSI between the Maunder Minimum and present, of about 6 W/m2. They assume that the minimum state of the quiet sun (say during a Maunder Minimum) corresponds to the observed quietest area on the present sun.

What will happen during a new Maunder Minimum? « Climate Dialogue

Yes, there are some estimates of the difference that are larger. The majority are not. We shall see shortly which is correct. At present, the TSI is smaller, and the temperatures are still going up.

We've done that dance before. NOTHING FROM COUNTING SUNSPOTS is a full accounting of total solar irradiance. The ACCEPTED PROXIES ( other than sunspots) are found as always at ----

You will lose this argument as you have lost it before several times. Counting sunspots REMOVES the actual baseline movement of the energy measurement..

 

[westwall]

The estimated increase in radiative forcing due to the sun since 1750 is only 0.05 W/m2 compared to a total increase that is mainly caused by greenhouse gases of 2.29 W/m2. This almost negligible influence is even smaller than the estimation in the fourth assessment report which was 0.12 W/m2 on a total of 1.66 W/m2. The reduction since AR4 has partly to do with the decreased solar activity in the current solar cycle 24.

What will happen during a new Maunder Minimum? « Climate Dialogue

Before flapping ones yap about a subject that you know nothing about, you really should do basic research. Even were we to go into a full Maunder Minimum, it would make little difference in a rapidly warming world.

I find it amusing that you clowns actually believe this crap. Here's a clue nimrod. the Sun is the DRIVER. It is not a "forcer". How do we know this? Easy, were the Sun to go dark, we would be an icy ball floating through space.