Weaponizing the Term Conspiracy Theory - Disinformation Agents and the CIA

[Skylar]

I have not lied. The election was stolen.

Says who?

Every count, recount, hand count, forensic audit, official count or electoral count has the same winner:

Biden.

 

[Soupnazi630]

I have not lied. The election was stolen.

You are a PROVEN liar.

It waas not stolen and Biden won legitimately you have NEVEr b een able to post a SCRAP of evidence that it was stolen.

I have not lied. The election was stolen.

Suck it up boy he won legitimately it was not stolen that is a fact and you fucking know it

 

[Lastamender]

Says who?

Every count, recount, hand count, forensic audit, official count or electoral count has the same winner:

Biden.

A couple of audits have quite a few laws broken. Enough to invalidate the election for 0 integrity.

 

[Skylar]

A couple of audits have quite a few laws broken. Enough to invalidate the election for 0 integrity.

Invalidate the election....according to who?

Again, you randomly declaring something invalid has no legal relevance. What court has ever found these claims to be true? The DOJ said there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud sufficient to change the outcome of the election. Even Trump's own cyber security teams admitted this was the most secure election in American history.

So......who has determined that the election was invalid? So far its you, citing yourself.

 

[Lastamender]

Invalidate the election....according to who?

Again, you randomly declaring something invalid has no legal relevance. What court has ever found these claims to be true? The DOJ said there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud sufficient to change the outcome of the election. Even Trump's own cyber security teams admitted this was the most secure election in American history.

So......who has determined that the election was invalid? So far its you, citing yourself.

According to state senators in AZ. Pa. and GA. the election should be decertified at least in some counties. You are not aware of what is going on.

 

[Skylar]

According to state senators in AZ. Pa. and GA. the election should be decertified at least in some counties. You are not aware of what is going on.

Not a plurality of any of them. So they aren't speaking for the senate of any of these states. They're just speaking for themselves.

Again, a random state senator doesn't carry the weight of any law. Nor do they unilaterally invalidate an entire national election. Or, anything really.

How do you not know this?

 

[Lastamender]

Not a plurality of any of them. So they aren't speaking for the senate of any of these states. They're just speaking for themselves.

Again, a random state senator doesn't carry the weight of any law. Nor do they unilaterally invalidate an entire national election. Or, anything really.

How do you not know this?

Three very populated counties in AZ. In fact they want the election decertified state wide. They know the election was a joke.

 

[Skylar]

Three very populated counties in AZ. In fact they want the election decertified state wide. They know the election was a joke.

Several problems with that.

First, Biden still wins without Arizona. Remember, Biden won by a landslide.

Second, there is no legal process for 'decertification'. Its pseudo-legal gibberish. It doesn't exist in the constitution, it doesn't exist in Arizona law.

Third, AZ hasn't 'decertified' the election.

So I ask yet again....the election was illegitimate according to who? Not the State of Arizona. Not any court. Not the DOJ, Trump's own cyber security teams, not the electoral college.

Who?

 

[Lastamender]

Several problems with that.

First, Biden still wins without Arizona. Remember, Biden won by a landslide.

Second, there is no legal process for 'decertification'. Its pseudo-legal gibberish. It doesn't exist in the constitution, it doesn't exist in Arizona law.

Third, AZ hasn't 'decertified' the election.

So I ask yet again....the election was illegitimate according to who? Not the State of Arizona. Not any court. Not the DOJ, Trump's own cyber security teams, not the electoral college.

Who?

AZ. has an election coming. If the America First candidates win any state office the evidence will be in court. Then we will see. The guy running for SOS is very serious about decertification. But you would know that if you were informed. You are not.

 

[Skylar]

AZ. has an election coming. If the America First candidates win any state office the evidence will be in court. Then we will see. The guy running for SOS is very serious about decertification. But you would know that if you were informed. You are not.

So no one then. Not the State of Arizona, not the DOJ, no court ruling, not the Supreme Court, nothing. Just your promises of 'someday'.

And same problem as before: 'decertification' is pseudo-legal gibberish. Its a legally meaningless term. There are no provisions in Arizona law nor the constitution to 'decertify' an elector after they've voted in the electoral college.

Nor did Biden need Arizona to win.

So much for your 'illegitimate president' schtick.

 

[Lastamender]

So no one then. Not the State of Arizona, not the DOJ, no court ruling, not the Supreme Court, nothing. Just your promises of 'someday'.

And same problem as before: 'decertification' is pseudo-legal gibberish. Its a legally meaningless term. There are no provisions in Arizona law nor the constitution to 'decertify' an elector after they've voted in the electoral college.

Nor did Biden need Arizona to win.

So much for your 'illegitimate president' schtick.

Biden stole 71 electoral votes.

 

[Skylar]

Biden stole 71 electoral votes.

Says who? Not the States that sent those 71 electors to the Electoral College.

Why would I ignore them....and instead believe you?

 

[Lastamender]

Says who? Not the States that sent those 71 electors to the Electoral College.

Why would I ignore them....and instead believe you?

They went there ( certifying) knowing their elections were clusterfucks that they would never investigate. Remember they fought tooth and nail to block any transparency.

 

[Skylar]

They went there ( certifying) knowing their elections were clusterfucks that they would never investigate. Remember they fought tooth and nail to block any transparency.

Can you quote any of these 71 electors saying this? Or are you just imagining it all, pretending to speak for 71 people you don't know, nor have ever met?

You're increasingly offering your imagination as justification for your imagination. Its an argument with no corners.

Again, which State has determined that their own election was illegitimate? Spoiler alert:

Its zero.

 

[Colin norris]

It wasn’t very many years after the world-wide web became operational that it was contaminated by secret disinformation agencies and also by individuals that were eventually called internet trolls. Trolls (defined below) began interjecting themselves – uninvited and unwanted – into otherwise useful and productive conversations involving web-groups of like-minded individuals.
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A troll is a person who disagrees with you and you can't prove him wrong.
So the traditional put down is to label him as a troll. It means nothing.

 

[Colin norris]

They went there ( certifying) knowing their elections were clusterfucks that they would never investigate. Remember they fought tooth and nail to block any transparency.

They did not. Thevtrabsparwbcy was there and other instances didn't warrant auditing because you disagreed with the defeat.
The electoral authority acted appropiat w my and you have no evidence otherwise. Hate on comrade and suck eggs

 

[Lastamender]

Can you quote any of these 71 electors saying this? Or are you just imagining it all, pretending to speak for 71 people you don't know, nor have ever met?

You're increasingly offering your imagination as justification for your imagination. Its an argument with no corners.

Again, which State has determined that their own election was illegitimate? Spoiler alert:

Its zero.

I am not talking about individual electors. Are you playing stupid, or is this the real you?

 

[Skylar]

I am not talking about individual electors. Are you playing stupid, or is this the real you?

Then who are you talking about? Not the States. Arizona stands by its election and has not found it to be fraudulent. It stands by its electors and their vote in the electoral college. As does Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin and Nevada.

Who then is saying that the election was illegimate? No court has ever found your claims to be true. No count, recount, foreinsic audit or official count backs your claim. Nor is 'de-certitification' a thing. There is no legal process for 'decertifying' an elector after they have voted in the electoral college. Its pseudo-legal gibberish.

So you're quoting yourself on the legitimacy of the election and making up meaningless pseudo-legal nonsense as you do it.

My question.....so what? You citing yourself has no legal relevance to any election's legitimacy

 

[Lastamender]

Then who are you talking about? Not the States. Arizona stands by its election and has not found it to be fraudulent. It stands by its electors and their vote in the electoral college. As does Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin and Nevada.

Who then is saying that the election was illegimate? No court has ever found your claims to be true. No count, recount, foreinsic audit or official count backs your claim. Nor is 'de-certitification' a thing. There is no legal process for 'decertifying' an elector after they have voted in the electoral college. Its pseudo-legal gibberish.

So you're quoting yourself on the legitimacy of the election and making up meaningless pseudo-legal nonsense as you do it.

My question.....so what? You citing yourself has no legal relevance to any election's legitimacy

State senators and representatives and private citizens are saying it. I have posted what they have said. Again, you are not informed enough to even discuss this.

 

[Skylar]

State senators and representatives and private citizens are saying it. I have posted what they have said. Again, you are not informed enough to even discuss this.

But not the actual legislatures themselves. A random state senator doesn't have the authority to appoint electors. Or to send them to the electoral college. Nor do they have any legal authority to 'decertify' any election.

The power to assign electors is granted to the state legislatures. And not ONE State legislature has found that their own elections were illegitimate of fraudulent.

Nor has any court found this. Nor has any count, recount, hand count, forensic audit or electoral vote.

So the election was illegitmate according to who? You've cited no one with any legal authority.