We will Impeach Obama if he follows the Constitution: Republican Congressman

[Quantum Windbag]

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Congressman Asserts Potential 'Impeachable Act'

Congressman Asserts Potential 'Impeachable Act' - West Ashley, SC Patch

The problem is Obama won't be following the constitution. He has no right to spend money without congressional approval. It's pretty clear that this is the duty of Congress.

Obama hasn't met with his cabinet in months. He feels they aren't essential. He uses czars instead.

Obama constantly tries to ignore our laws. He wants to obey foreign laws and ignore ours. He's constantly looking for loopholes in the constitution. It's guys like Obama that are always exploring the flaws in our laws that makes the ability to amend the constitution an imperative.

Hey numbnuts... the money has already been spent... he's just trying to pay the bills...All that money? has already been approved by congress... this is the debt limit we are talking about... not the budget... that's already been passed. Idiots... the lot of ya.

It hasn't been spent yet.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I already did back it up. The US defaulted on its debt, devalued the dollar, and refused to pay everyone in gold, which is what the actual treasury binds were issued on. Go read your precious opinion and prove me wrong.

Perhaps your unaware of how debate works. Whoever makes to positive assertion bears the burden of proof. I've quoted from the Perry vs. US ruling and it makes a very strong argument for, not much against that I can find.

PERRY V. UNITED STATES, 294 U. S. 330 :: Volume 294 :: 1935 :: US Supreme Court Cases from Justia & Oyez

5. By virtue of the power to borrow money "on the credit of the United States," Congress is authorized to pledge that credit as assurance of payment as stipulated -- as the highest assurance the Government can give -- its plighted faith. To say that Congress may withdraw or ignore that pledge is to assume that the Constitution contemplates a vain promise, a pledge having no other sanction than the pleasure and convenience of the pledgor. P. 294 U. S. 351.

6. When the United States, with constitutional authority, makes contracts, it has rights and incurs responsibilities similar to those of individuals who are parties to such instruments. P. 294 U. S. 352.

7. The right to make binding obligations is a power of sovereignty. P. 294 U. S. 353.

8. The sovereignty of the United States resides in the people, and Congress cannot invoke the sovereignty of the people to override their will as declared in the Constitution. P. 294 U. S. 353.

9. The power given Congress to borrow money on the credit of the United States is unqualified and vital to the Government, and the binding quality of the promise of the United States is of the essence of the credit pledged. P. 294 U. S. 353.

Make your case, I'm interested.

I believe that Obama has the constitutional authority and obligation to use tax revenue to pay all interest on accrued debt. and I believe he has to do that FIRST, and I do not believe he can borrow above the debt limit set by Congress to do so.

I have told him that.

Twice.

 

[Steelplate]

The problem is Obama won't be following the constitution. He has no right to spend money without congressional approval. It's pretty clear that this is the duty of Congress.

Obama hasn't met with his cabinet in months. He feels they aren't essential. He uses czars instead.

Obama constantly tries to ignore our laws. He wants to obey foreign laws and ignore ours. He's constantly looking for loopholes in the constitution. It's guys like Obama that are always exploring the flaws in our laws that makes the ability to amend the constitution an imperative.

Hey numbnuts... the money has already been spent... he's just trying to pay the bills...All that money? has already been approved by congress... this is the debt limit we are talking about... not the budget... that's already been passed. Idiots... the lot of ya.

It hasn't been spent yet.

Wrong.... when the budget was passed last year... you do remember that, right? That money was spent. They don't pass a budget and say... this is our plan for the year... IF we have the money.

That would be like you and your wife saying.... Let's buy a car. You go to the dealer and work out financing terms and then 6 months later say.... Wow... look at our debt.... I'm not paying. Even if you call the creditor and say... hey... I'm just going to pay interest payments for a while...Your credit rating goes to shit and you end up with a loan shark level interest rate.

It's no different. Whoever told you that "the money is not spent" is lying to you.

 

[NoNukes]

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Congressman Asserts Potential 'Impeachable Act'

Congressman Asserts Potential 'Impeachable Act' - West Ashley, SC Patch

Go ahead, impeach him, the world will see exactly what Americans are.

LOL,
What we do know, is the WORLD thinks we are a laughing stock with the people who voted in this idiot boyking.

You, like so many other Americans, sit in the United States and think that you know what is going on in the rest of the world.
The right embarrassed America impeaching Clinton for the Monica Lewinski scandal, and you appear poised to repeat the embarrassment. Get a popular Democrat into the Oval Office, and your only course of action is impeachment. Why do those of you on the right hate America?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Hey numbnuts... the money has already been spent... he's just trying to pay the bills...All that money? has already been approved by congress... this is the debt limit we are talking about... not the budget... that's already been passed. Idiots... the lot of ya.

It hasn't been spent yet.

Wrong.... when the budget was passed last year... you do remember that, right? That money was spent. They don't pass a budget and say... this is our plan for the year... IF we have the money.

That would be like you and your wife saying.... Let's buy a car. You go to the dealer and work out financing terms and then 6 months later say.... Wow... look at our debt.... I'm not paying. Even if you call the creditor and say... hey... I'm just going to pay interest payments for a while...Your credit rating goes to shit and you end up with a loan shark level interest rate.

It's no different. Whoever told you that "the money is not spent" is lying to you.

There was no budget passed last year

 

[The T]

Hey numbnuts... the money has already been spent... he's just trying to pay the bills...All that money? has already been approved by congress... this is the debt limit we are talking about... not the budget... that's already been passed. Idiots... the lot of ya.

It hasn't been spent yet.

Wrong.... when the budget was passed last year... you do remember that, right? That money was spent. They don't pass a budget and say... this is our plan for the year... IF we have the money.

That would be like you and your wife saying.... Let's buy a car. You go to the dealer and work out financing terms and then 6 months later say.... Wow... look at our debt.... I'm not paying. Even if you call the creditor and say... hey... I'm just going to pay interest payments for a while...Your credit rating goes to shit and you end up with a loan shark level interest rate.

It's no different. Whoever told you that "the money is not spent" is lying to you.

How did they manage that? They didn't pass a budget at all. The Dems were in charge, and it was an election year. They wanted to raise taxes...so they failed to do thier job. They violated their oath.

 

[Robert]

Cool. Conservative radical right wing republicans are showing more and more their disdain for government and willingness to use severe government procedures in very friviolous ways.

This would be the second American Democratic President in a row that is undergoing an impeachment due to a Conservative snit fit.

Ya had nothing at all to do with the first POS getting his dick sucked in the oval office by an intern.....something the left is oh so proud of.

LMAO!! So the idiot Jillian Neg reps me for pointing out the truth about Clinton what's wrong wishing that you was you and not the intern deary?

 

[Mad Scientist]

Cool. Conservative radical right wing republicans are showing more and more their disdain for government and willingness to use severe government procedures in very friviolous ways.

This would be the second American Democratic President in a row that is undergoing an impeachment due to a Conservative snit fit.

Ya had nothing at all to do with the first POS getting his dick sucked in the oval office by an intern.....something the left is oh so proud of.

LMAO!! So the idiot Jillian Neg reps me for pointing out the truth about Clinton what's wrong wishing that you was you and not the intern deary?

Clinton wasn't impeached for "getting his dick sucked". He was inpeached for lying under oath about it. He lost his Arkansas Law License for 5 years because of that as well.

 

[Robert]

Ya had nothing at all to do with the first POS getting his dick sucked in the oval office by an intern.....something the left is oh so proud of.

LMAO!! So the idiot Jillian Neg reps me for pointing out the truth about Clinton what's wrong wishing that you was you and not the intern deary?

Clinton wasn't impeached for "getting his dick sucked". He was inpeached for lying under oath about it. He lost his Arkansas Law License for 5 years because of that as well.

Correct he lied about Using the Intern to suck his dick in the oval office it would have been redundant to mention the cigar and the Intern.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Article 14, section 4 of the Constitution:

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Looks to me with the "authorized by law" section that the Congress can raise the debt ceiling.

But it also seems to me that we have a claim against the Gov't in regards to the Gun Walker Scandal. If the Gov't is participating in "armed insurrection" against itself and it's citizens (false flag ops), then it seems to me that we don't have to pay the bill for it.

 

[NoNukes]

Ya had nothing at all to do with the first POS getting his dick sucked in the oval office by an intern.....something the left is oh so proud of.

LMAO!! So the idiot Jillian Neg reps me for pointing out the truth about Clinton what's wrong wishing that you was you and not the intern deary?

Clinton wasn't impeached for "getting his dick sucked". He was inpeached for lying under oath about it. He lost his Arkansas Law License for 5 years because of that as well.

The point is that America should not have been embarrassing itself by by airing its' dirty laundry in public.

 

[Robert]

LMAO!! So the idiot Jillian Neg reps me for pointing out the truth about Clinton what's wrong wishing that you was you and not the intern deary?

Clinton wasn't impeached for "getting his dick sucked". He was inpeached for lying under oath about it. He lost his Arkansas Law License for 5 years because of that as well.

The point is that America should not have been embarrassing itself by by airing its' dirty laundry in public.

The Point is that we had a President who decided to embarrass himself nobody did it for him and with a fat intern for god sakes really? Of course this was just the tip of the iceberg with Clinton.

He broke a law to which the Left thought was so very important but when it came to enforcing it with one of their own all of the sudden the law just wasn't all that important damn strange how that works.

Are you really advocating we allow our Presidents to break any law they wish and then were suppose to cover it up?

 

[ogibillm]

It is a false premise to suggest that the impeachable offense is following the Constitution when the President's "threat" is to do exactly the opposite.

what threat, dumbass?

The threat, ya ******* dumbshit, is to spend money that Congress hasn't authorized, yashitforbraincrapmuncher.

Now, kindly go **** yourself, doucherag.

and the president, he made that threat when?

jesus, some people are thick.

 

[Stephanie]

LMAO!! So the idiot Jillian Neg reps me for pointing out the truth about Clinton what's wrong wishing that you was you and not the intern deary?

Clinton wasn't impeached for "getting his dick sucked". He was inpeached for lying under oath about it. He lost his Arkansas Law License for 5 years because of that as well.

The point is that America should not have been embarrassing itself by by airing its' dirty laundry in public.

LOL..that is the point..funny thing here we still have Freedoms to KNOW what the hell our elected Reps who WE PAY THEIR SALARIES are up to...the rest of the world should WORRY about their OWN PROBLEMS if they don't like what goes on here.

 

[Liability]

what threat, dumbass?

The threat, ya ******* dumbshit, is to spend money that Congress hasn't authorized, yashitforbraincrapmuncher.

Now, kindly go **** yourself, doucherag.

and the president, he made that threat when?

jesus, some people are thick.

Yes, you are indeed thick. Impenetrably thick, ya fuckin' dumb shit.

Did you imagine this conversation sprang up out of thin air, asshole?

Trial balloons were getting floated. The President doesn't have to be the one to say the words, you ignorant twit, to be the one behind the threat.

You are tragically stupid.

 

[Liability]

By the way, the "threat" of which I spoke is quite real. Just look at the OP. A Congresscritter is worried that the President might do such a thing. The idea had been floated and caused him concern.

But there's more. The President got "tweeted" a specific question from some "nerd" and proceeded to "answer" the question by lecturing everybody on the importance of America paying its debts. He did not directly reject the staged notion, however. The White House Blog | The White House

Look to the "twitter" portion of the President's blog page and then click the link under the video which reads: "@_RenegadeNerd_: #AskObama Mr. President, will you issue an executive order to raise the debt ceiling pursuant to section 4 of the 14th amendment?"

 

[ogibillm]

The threat, ya ******* dumbshit, is to spend money that Congress hasn't authorized, yashitforbraincrapmuncher.

Now, kindly go **** yourself, doucherag.

and the president, he made that threat when?

jesus, some people are thick.

Yes, you are indeed thick. Impenetrably thick, ya fuckin' dumb shit.

Did you imagine this conversation sprang up out of thin air, asshole?

Trial balloons were getting floated. The President doesn't have to be the one to say the words, you ignorant twit, to be the one behind the threat.

You are tragically stupid.

and it doesn't matter to you that the white house spokesman said it wasn't discussed and hadn't been considered?

but because there's wild speculation out there it automatically means that the president is threatening to do it?

is that really how your mind works? it would explain a lot about you.

 

[Stephanie]

and the president, he made that threat when?

jesus, some people are thick.

Yes, you are indeed thick. Impenetrably thick, ya fuckin' dumb shit.

Did you imagine this conversation sprang up out of thin air, asshole?

Trial balloons were getting floated. The President doesn't have to be the one to say the words, you ignorant twit, to be the one behind the threat.

You are tragically stupid.

and it doesn't matter to you that the white house spokesman said it wasn't discussed and hadn't been considered?

but because there's wild speculation out there it automatically means that the president is threatening to do it?

is that really how your mind works? it would explain a lot about you.

oh for crying out loud, it has been suggest HERE that the President issue an executive order to bypass Congress on this, which by the way the OBAMA is famous for doing. What was posted was a WARNING to him to NOT EVEN THINK about it or Impeachment could come out of it.. sheeesh.

 

[Vanquish]

Obama is famous for doing? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. Bush is the grandmaster of it. Go watch the Frontline documentary: Cheney's Law. Republicans weren't crowing about such things when yer boy Bush did it.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Obama is famous for doing? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. Bush is the grandmaster of it. Go watch the Frontline documentary: Cheney's Law. Republicans weren't crowing about such things when yer boy Bush did it.

So we should just continue on our merry way then?