Lesh
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Just stop.Not true.Look how well herd immunity worked out for Sweden. Short answer, it didn't.
Fact check: Sweden has not achieved herd immunity, is not proof that lockdowns are useless
With hundreds of thousands of views and over 3,000 shares on Facebook, a video produced by the conservative U.S. nonprofit PragerU claims that “Sweden is the proof that lockdowns are useless” in stemming the spread of COVID-19 and that its population likely has “herd immunity” due to the lack of...www.reuters.com
Sweden: In Sweden, total mortality without lockdown has so far been in the range of a strong influenza season. 70% of Swedish deaths occurred in nursing homes that were not protected quickly enough. The median age of the Swedish covid deaths is 84 years.
". . .The authors of the new study examined blood from 206 people in Sweden who had COVID-19 with varying degrees of severity. They found that regardless of whether a person had recovered from a mild or severe case, they still developed a robust T-cell response. Even coronavirus patients who did not test positive for antibodies developed memory T cells, the results showed.We now have the best evidence yet that everyone develops long-term coronavirus immunity after infection — and it's not just about antibodies
Research shows that COVID-19 patients — including those with asymptomatic or mild cases — develop T cells that can fight the virus if it returns.www.businessinsider.com
Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, called T-cell studies like this one "good news."
Lockdowns do nothing when folks travel to get food and other business and government service remain open. It is just manipulation. NY was hailed, FL was condemned.
Data tell a different story. The story? Natural Immunity works. (As well as sunshine.)
". . .In Sweden, antibody seroprevalence in Stockholm has reached 31.6% by mid-November (up from 15% in October), which is by far the highest level of any Western capital (NYC reached about 25% by early summer), and is expected to significantly slow the local epidemic. However, other parts of Sweden may have reached only about 10 to 15%. Overall, Swedish mortality remains comparable to previous strong seasonal flu waves.
As previously mentioned, the actual prevalence of covid immunity may be somewhat higher than antibody values indicate, as commercial antibody tests may miss people who had an asymptomatic or mild covid infection. For instance, a highly sensitive antibody test developed by Northwestern University found a 20% seroprevalence in Chicago, instead of the previously assumed 5% to 10%."
New Antibody Data for the US and Sweden
Published: November 27, 2020 This week, the latest US national antibody data covering the period from September 7 to September 24 has been published. With the exception of a few northeastern states…swprs.org
Sweden has been a disaster compared to its neighbors Norway, Denmark, and Finland. Thousands more dead and no economic gain.
Yea, I know in terms of OUR disastrous experiment at herd immunity that sounds paltry but remember Sweden has a fraction of our population,