Zone1 We three kings of orient are …. may one of us be black?

When Caspar is black, is that blackfacing?

  • Yes

  • No

  • it is racist

  • it is not racist

  • It is an old tradition


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Their names are Caspar, Melchior, Balthasar

And one of the three is traditionally seen as black.

is that so in the U S as well?

Is that racist?

i dont think so
 
The word, "Black" has been manipulated into meaninglessness. It properly applies to people whose genetic/racial roots come from sub-Saharan Africa. Now it seems to mean anyone who is not either Caucasian or Asian - and some dark-skinned Caucasians want to be included as well.

None of the three Zoroastrian priests ("Magi") can rationally be called, "Black." If you want to cast a Negro in one or more of those parts, feel free. It makes no difference. But none of them was "Black."
 
Their names are Caspar, Melchior, Balthasar

And one of the three is traditionally seen as black.

is that so in the U S as well?

Is that racist?

i dont think so
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I have never really paid much attention to what races the Magi are presented as.

If any of them are portrayed as black, I sure don't see that as racist.

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White racists always want to tell people how certain things are meaningless. Meaningless is the designation Sub-Saharan Africa. At one time, South Africa was not considered part of sub-Saharan Africa. That term is a racist attempt to divide Africa to make bogus claims. If the designation black is meaningless, so is the designation white.

As to the question, it is highly doubtful if any of the three were white, given the area of the world they lived in. Was one of them black? Possibly. But it really doesn't matter.
 
The tradition is like this

The three kings represent the three continents known then
And the three ages youth, middle age, old age
 
It is usually like this

Caspar, young, from Africa
Melchior, middle aged, Asia
Balthasar, old, from Europe

In some traditions it is different
 
How is it in the nativity scene in your church?
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I'll have to look. They might not be in place yet. I think the last time I looked, I saw Mary and Joseph and a shepherd, as well as a few animals.

As you know, Catholics often place the figures with chronological accuracy.

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Biblical Magi - Wikipedia

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In Christianity, the Biblical Magi singular: magus), also known as the Three Wise Men, Three Kings, and Three Magi, are distinguished foreigners who visit Jesus after his birth, bearing gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh in homage to him.In Western Christianity, they are commemorated on the feast day of Epiphany—sometimes called "Three Kings Day"—and commonly appear in the nativity celebrations of Christmas. In Eastern Christianity, they are commemorated on Christmas day.

The Magi appear solely in the Gospel of Matthew, which states that they came "from the east" (Greek: ἀπὸ ἀνατολῶν, romanized: apo anatolōn) to worship the "one who has been born king of the Jews". Their names, origins, appearances, and exact number are unmentioned and derive from the inferences or traditions of later Christians. In Western Christianity and Eastern Orthodox Christianity, they are usually assumed to have been three in number, corresponding with each gift;in Syriac Christianity, they often number twelve.Likewise, the Magi's social status is never stated: although some biblical translations describe them as astrologers, they were increasingly identified as kings by at least the third century,> which conformed with Christian interpretations of Old Testament prophecies that the messiah would be worshipped by kings.

The mystery of the Magi's identities and background, combined with their theological significance, has made them prominent figures in the Christian tradition; they are venerated as saints or even martyrs in many Christian communities, and are the subject of numerous artworks, legends, and customs. Both secular and Christian observers have noted that the Magi popularly serve as a means of expressing various ideas, symbols, and themes. Many scholars regard the Magi as legendary rather than historical figures.
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These two links are of interest as well. They continue that the actual number wasn't stated, only referred to "wise men" so may not have been 'royalty', and vaguely, "from the East".

Three Wise Men: 7 Myths and the Real Story - Nativity Lover

Who Were the Magi in the Bible? Names, Gifts, and Story

 
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I'll have to look. They might not be in place yet. I think the last time I looked, I saw Mary and Joseph and a shepherd, as well as a few animals.

As you know, Catholics often place the figures with chronological accuracy.

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Yes, and so the Magi do not appear before January 6
 
Their names are Caspar, Melchior, Balthasar

And one of the three is traditionally seen as black.

is that so in the U S as well?

Is that racist?

i dont think so
The 3 Kings came from the east. Specifically East L.A. They came in their lowriders.

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I think the Bible does not mention their religion

the magi were sent by the heavens to protect mary from judaism and the stone throwing criminals that eventually had their child crucified.

mary and joseph did not fear moses and their false commandments and were what the heavens praise, true love and were made their exemplars.

as is the beginning of the 1st century events and all those who gave their lives for liberation theology, self determination untold in the 4th century christian bible.
 
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