"We need to redistribute wealth among Americans" WTF...why does this always sound so retarded to me?

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

Nobody wants to take their money away and give it to poor people

But why do we continue policies that encourage the wealthy to accumulate and maintain more wealth?

They obviously don't need it

Give it to the government because they are soooooooooo good with financial matters.

Thirty years ago we sold out to Supply Side Economics. Put more money in the hands of the wealthy and watch the prosperity trickle down to all

Never happened. They just keep the money

Why continue a failed policy?

Supply side worked quite well.

Big business managed to insert themselves in the government and managed to garner a lot of that money.

Get government out of the way so business's have to compete.

Everyone would be better off except 1% like Trump, Obama, Clintons and Lizzy Warren (who gets paid 350,000 to each one class).

Supply side worked very well for the one percent. Business made more money but didn't pass it down to the workers

For working Americans it was a disaster. Stagnant wages and overall loss of family wealth

Good thing global competition and the corresponding disparate business practices have nothing to do with it.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Nobody wants to take their money away and give it to poor people

But why do we continue policies that encourage the wealthy to accumulate and maintain more wealth?

They obviously don't need it

Give it to the government because they are soooooooooo good with financial matters.

Thirty years ago we sold out to Supply Side Economics. Put more money in the hands of the wealthy and watch the prosperity trickle down to all

Never happened. They just keep the money

Why continue a failed policy?

Supply side worked quite well.

Big business managed to insert themselves in the government and managed to garner a lot of that money.

Get government out of the way so business's have to compete.

Everyone would be better off except 1% like Trump, Obama, Clintons and Lizzy Warren (who gets paid 350,000 to each one class).

By "supply side" they mean "freedom", "capitalism", 'American business practices" etc etc as far as they mean anything at all. Ask one of the idiots to oppose and contrast it within a Keynsian framework..or Demand management Theory. You will get a "duuhhh..I was told to say supply side".

I would gladly put more wealth in the hands of working Americans. They actually put it back into the economy instead of shipping it overseas

Tell us your plan?

 

[rightwinger]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

Nobody wants to take their money away and give it to poor people

But why do we continue policies that encourage the wealthy to accumulate and maintain more wealth?

They obviously don't need it

Give it to the government because they are soooooooooo good with financial matters.

Thirty years ago we sold out to Supply Side Economics. Put more money in the hands of the wealthy and watch the prosperity trickle down to all

Never happened. They just keep the money

Why continue a failed policy?

Trusting the government with our money is a failed policy.

Ever hear of the National debt, Social security, medicare, or the Tax Code as examples?

We the people created the Government

Trusting capitalists in an unrestrained market has proven to be a disaster every time we tried it

 

[Conservative65]

Nobody wants to take their money away and give it to poor people

But why do we continue policies that encourage the wealthy to accumulate and maintain more wealth?

They obviously don't need it

Give it to the government because they are soooooooooo good with financial matters.

Thirty years ago we sold out to Supply Side Economics. Put more money in the hands of the wealthy and watch the prosperity trickle down to all

Never happened. They just keep the money

Why continue a failed policy?

Supply side worked quite well.

Big business managed to insert themselves in the government and managed to garner a lot of that money.

Get government out of the way so business's have to compete.

Everyone would be better off except 1% like Trump, Obama, Clintons and Lizzy Warren (who gets paid 350,000 to each one class).

By "supply side" they mean "freedom", "capitalism", 'American business practices" etc etc as far as they mean anything at all. Ask one of the idiots to oppose and contrast it within a Keynsian framework..or Demand management Theory. You will get a "duuhhh..I was told to say supply side".

I would gladly put more wealth in the hands of working Americans. They actually put it back into the economy instead of shipping it overseas

The problem with that statement, as with most bleeding hearts, is that the money isn't yours. If you would so gladly do it, write a check from your account. Typical bleeding heart mantra of "I care so much for others I'm willing to let someone else be forced to pay for it".

 

[Conservative65]

Give it to the government because they are soooooooooo good with financial matters.

Thirty years ago we sold out to Supply Side Economics. Put more money in the hands of the wealthy and watch the prosperity trickle down to all

Never happened. They just keep the money

Why continue a failed policy?

Supply side worked quite well.

Big business managed to insert themselves in the government and managed to garner a lot of that money.

Get government out of the way so business's have to compete.

Everyone would be better off except 1% like Trump, Obama, Clintons and Lizzy Warren (who gets paid 350,000 to each one class).

By "supply side" they mean "freedom", "capitalism", 'American business practices" etc etc as far as they mean anything at all. Ask one of the idiots to oppose and contrast it within a Keynsian framework..or Demand management Theory. You will get a "duuhhh..I was told to say supply side".

I would gladly put more wealth in the hands of working Americans. They actually put it back into the economy instead of shipping it overseas

tell us your plan?

I can promise you his plan involves someone other than him being forced to fund it while he'll take credit for it because he supported it.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

Nobody wants to take their money away and give it to poor people

But why do we continue policies that encourage the wealthy to accumulate and maintain more wealth?

They obviously don't need it

Give it to the government because they are soooooooooo good with financial matters.

Thirty years ago we sold out to Supply Side Economics. Put more money in the hands of the wealthy and watch the prosperity trickle down to all

Never happened. They just keep the money

Why continue a failed policy?

Trusting the government with our money is a failed policy.

Ever hear of the National debt, Social security, medicare, or the Tax Code as examples?

We the people created the Government

Trusting capitalists in an unrestrained market has proven to be a disaster every time we tried it

Trusting government has proven to be a disaster every time

 

[rightwinger]

Give it to the government because they are soooooooooo good with financial matters.

Thirty years ago we sold out to Supply Side Economics. Put more money in the hands of the wealthy and watch the prosperity trickle down to all

Never happened. They just keep the money

Why continue a failed policy?

Supply side worked quite well.

Big business managed to insert themselves in the government and managed to garner a lot of that money.

Get government out of the way so business's have to compete.

Everyone would be better off except 1% like Trump, Obama, Clintons and Lizzy Warren (who gets paid 350,000 to each one class).

By "supply side" they mean "freedom", "capitalism", 'American business practices" etc etc as far as they mean anything at all. Ask one of the idiots to oppose and contrast it within a Keynsian framework..or Demand management Theory. You will get a "duuhhh..I was told to say supply side".

I would gladly put more wealth in the hands of working Americans. They actually put it back into the economy instead of shipping it overseas

tell us your plan?

Return to 50 percent tax rate on income over a million
Tax capital gains as regular income

Put the added revenue into education, healthcare and retirement funds

 

[rightwinger]

Nobody wants to take their money away and give it to poor people

But why do we continue policies that encourage the wealthy to accumulate and maintain more wealth?

They obviously don't need it

Give it to the government because they are soooooooooo good with financial matters.

Thirty years ago we sold out to Supply Side Economics. Put more money in the hands of the wealthy and watch the prosperity trickle down to all

Never happened. They just keep the money

Why continue a failed policy?

Trusting the government with our money is a failed policy.

Ever hear of the National debt, Social security, medicare, or the Tax Code as examples?

We the people created the Government

Trusting capitalists in an unrestrained market has proven to be a disaster every time we tried it

Trusting government has proven to be a disaster every time

It has worked for over two hundred years

We have the best government in the history of mankind

 

[Thinker101]

Give it to the government because they are soooooooooo good with financial matters.

Thirty years ago we sold out to Supply Side Economics. Put more money in the hands of the wealthy and watch the prosperity trickle down to all

Never happened. They just keep the money

Why continue a failed policy?

Trusting the government with our money is a failed policy.

Ever hear of the National debt, Social security, medicare, or the Tax Code as examples?

We the people created the Government

Trusting capitalists in an unrestrained market has proven to be a disaster every time we tried it

Trusting government has proven to be a disaster every time

It has worked for over two hundred years

We have the best government in the history of mankind

Guess that explains why the left wants to screw it up.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Thirty years ago we sold out to Supply Side Economics. Put more money in the hands of the wealthy and watch the prosperity trickle down to all

Never happened. They just keep the money

Why continue a failed policy?

Supply side worked quite well.

Big business managed to insert themselves in the government and managed to garner a lot of that money.

Get government out of the way so business's have to compete.

Everyone would be better off except 1% like Trump, Obama, Clintons and Lizzy Warren (who gets paid 350,000 to each one class).

By "supply side" they mean "freedom", "capitalism", 'American business practices" etc etc as far as they mean anything at all. Ask one of the idiots to oppose and contrast it within a Keynsian framework..or Demand management Theory. You will get a "duuhhh..I was told to say supply side".

I would gladly put more wealth in the hands of working Americans. They actually put it back into the economy instead of shipping it overseas

tell us your plan?

Return to 50 percent tax rate on income over a million
Tax capital gains as regular income

Put the added revenue into education, healthcare and retirement funds

Tax us to prosperity - who would have guessed....

You realize that investment income like capital gains and dividends are very different than earned income?

Unlike earned income there is a risk of some or all of the money you risk.

So you want to skew the risk reward balance to inhibit the formation of capital essential for business creation and growth by disincentive it?

So you want to transfer the money into who's retirement accounts?


What did you go to college for?

 

[rightwinger]

Thirty years ago we sold out to Supply Side Economics. Put more money in the hands of the wealthy and watch the prosperity trickle down to all

Never happened. They just keep the money

Why continue a failed policy?

Trusting the government with our money is a failed policy.

Ever hear of the National debt, Social security, medicare, or the Tax Code as examples?

We the people created the Government

Trusting capitalists in an unrestrained market has proven to be a disaster every time we tried it

Trusting government has proven to be a disaster every time

It has worked for over two hundred years

We have the best government in the history of mankind

Guess that explains why the left wants to screw it up.

We created this form of government
Name one better

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Give it to the government because they are soooooooooo good with financial matters.

Thirty years ago we sold out to Supply Side Economics. Put more money in the hands of the wealthy and watch the prosperity trickle down to all

Never happened. They just keep the money

Why continue a failed policy?

Trusting the government with our money is a failed policy.

Ever hear of the National debt, Social security, medicare, or the Tax Code as examples?

We the people created the Government

Trusting capitalists in an unrestrained market has proven to be a disaster every time we tried it

Trusting government has proven to be a disaster every time

It has worked for over two hundred years

We have the best government in the history of mankind

How about our debt and social security and medicare and tax code ....

 

[rightwinger]

Supply side worked quite well.

Big business managed to insert themselves in the government and managed to garner a lot of that money.

Get government out of the way so business's have to compete.

Everyone would be better off except 1% like Trump, Obama, Clintons and Lizzy Warren (who gets paid 350,000 to each one class).

By "supply side" they mean "freedom", "capitalism", 'American business practices" etc etc as far as they mean anything at all. Ask one of the idiots to oppose and contrast it within a Keynsian framework..or Demand management Theory. You will get a "duuhhh..I was told to say supply side".

I would gladly put more wealth in the hands of working Americans. They actually put it back into the economy instead of shipping it overseas

tell us your plan?

Return to 50 percent tax rate on income over a million
Tax capital gains as regular income

Put the added revenue into education, healthcare and retirement funds

Tax us to prosperity - who would have guessed....

You realize that investment income like capital gains and dividends are very different than income?

Unlike income there is a risk of some or all of the money you risk.

So you want to skew the risk reward balance to inhibit the formation of capital essential for business creation and growth by disincentive it?

So you want to transfer the money into who's retirement accounts?


What did you go to college for?

50 percent tax brackets worked before
Only profits are taxed as capital gains

We were the richest country in the world with a thriving middle class

Austerity only helps the rich

 

[rightwinger]

Thirty years ago we sold out to Supply Side Economics. Put more money in the hands of the wealthy and watch the prosperity trickle down to all

Never happened. They just keep the money

Why continue a failed policy?

Trusting the government with our money is a failed policy.

Ever hear of the National debt, Social security, medicare, or the Tax Code as examples?

We the people created the Government

Trusting capitalists in an unrestrained market has proven to be a disaster every time we tried it

Trusting government has proven to be a disaster every time

It has worked for over two hundred years

We have the best government in the history of mankind

How about our debt and social security and medicare and tax code ....

What about it?

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

By "supply side" they mean "freedom", "capitalism", 'American business practices" etc etc as far as they mean anything at all. Ask one of the idiots to oppose and contrast it within a Keynsian framework..or Demand management Theory. You will get a "duuhhh..I was told to say supply side".

I would gladly put more wealth in the hands of working Americans. They actually put it back into the economy instead of shipping it overseas

tell us your plan?

Return to 50 percent tax rate on income over a million
Tax capital gains as regular income

Put the added revenue into education, healthcare and retirement funds

Tax us to prosperity - who would have guessed....

You realize that investment income like capital gains and dividends are very different than income?

Unlike income there is a risk of some or all of the money you risk.

So you want to skew the risk reward balance to inhibit the formation of capital essential for business creation and growth by disincentive it?

So you want to transfer the money into who's retirement accounts?


What did you go to college for?

50 percent tax brackets worked before

We were the richest country in the world with a thriving middle class

Austerity only helps the rich

Good thing times have not changed with global competition and technology.


Have you ever studied economics or finance?

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Trusting the government with our money is a failed policy.

Ever hear of the National debt, Social security, medicare, or the Tax Code as examples?

We the people created the Government

Trusting capitalists in an unrestrained market has proven to be a disaster every time we tried it

Trusting government has proven to be a disaster every time

It has worked for over two hundred years

We have the best government in the history of mankind

How about our debt and social security and medicare and tax code ....

What about it?

The national debt is not an issue?


How much debt do you carry?

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

By "supply side" they mean "freedom", "capitalism", 'American business practices" etc etc as far as they mean anything at all. Ask one of the idiots to oppose and contrast it within a Keynsian framework..or Demand management Theory. You will get a "duuhhh..I was told to say supply side".

I would gladly put more wealth in the hands of working Americans. They actually put it back into the economy instead of shipping it overseas

tell us your plan?

Return to 50 percent tax rate on income over a million
Tax capital gains as regular income

Put the added revenue into education, healthcare and retirement funds

Tax us to prosperity - who would have guessed....

You realize that investment income like capital gains and dividends are very different than income?

Unlike income there is a risk of some or all of the money you risk.

So you want to skew the risk reward balance to inhibit the formation of capital essential for business creation and growth by disincentive it?

So you want to transfer the money into who's retirement accounts?


What did you go to college for?

50 percent tax brackets worked before
Only profits are taxed as capital gains

We were the richest country in the world with a thriving middle class

Austerity only helps the rich

FYI - I minimize my taxes in so many ways

cash rules

 

[depotoo]

That narrative being taught is what is helping the American dream to be lost for many, because they fall for it. The value of hard/smart work ethic is no longer being taught.

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

 

[DOTR]

Compare Reagan to Progressive Hero Hugo Chavez, who wins?

Reagan nearly doubled US GDP, Progressive Socialism completely destroyed the Venezuelan economy

Never ever ever underestimate the stupidity of liberals, Democrats, socialists and communists Crusaderfrank.

I work with Venezuelans every day. Have for 22 years. They swear their people are starving because of Bush, oil prices, Trump, capitalists, corporations, imperialism, fifth columnists, Republicans, profiteers and maybe the solar eclipse.
Their people cannot even get toilet paper. It is non existent in Venezuela (along with food, medicine, electricity, clothes....). Their answer of course, was first to seize toilet paper factories and imprison the owners.

Facing shortages, Venezuela takes over toilet paper factory - CNN

They have also tried suing emergency funds to buy and import toilet paper to hand out free. 79 million dollars worth. Of course it didnt work...socialist ideas never do.

Toilet paper shortage is because ‘Venezuelans are eating more’ argues the government

How does the leadership explain socialism's inability to provide a cheap, low tech, easy to make basic like toilet paper? Let me quote their explanation. "There is a shortage of toilet paper because Venezuelans are eating so much more now". !!!!!!!!! LOL LINK LINK LINK

When I have meetings with them I always place a roll of toilet paper on my desk to clean my glasses. Then I throw huge wads away in front of them.
It infuriates them.
But please dont make the mistake of thinking that reality will change the mind of a Marxist. It is the religion of these hollow, spiritually void people and no religious fanatic ever clung to their belief in God like a Marxist does to Lenin and Stalin.
Even to the starvation of every soul in their power.

 

[Eloy]

I always find this narrative fascinating....The top 1% of wage earners already pay 45% of all income tax paid and 45% of American's pay no income tax at all.
That said, how is the notion that our most productive positive contributors owe more manifested?
Why is it never said that we have too many bottom feeders stealing from the middle class and how does that not make more sense to sane rational folks? Take the $100 billion we spend on illegal beaners every year...what if we diverted that cash alone and funneled it through the hands of the middle class and REAL Americans?

Believing that the very wealthy are your "most productive positive contributors" is a value judgement offensive to the working poor in America. What is needed is a different economic system which values all citizens and allows all to enjoy the wealth of the nation.